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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:40 am

Juristonia wrote:So is the last season of Arrow just going to be the New Kids on the Block?
Because, my god, that's a downer to go out with.

Wouldn't know. I dipped out a while ago.
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Postby Juristonia » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:21 am

I've actually started to warm up to it the last couple of seasons after thinking it was probably the second worst show of the bunch, but if they're really going to go with the teen soap ending, I might as well start watching Riverdale.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:19 am

Juristonia wrote:I've actually started to warm up to it the last couple of seasons after thinking it was probably the second worst show of the bunch, but if they're really going to go with the teen soap ending, I might as well start watching Riverdale.

This was the last one.
And apparently it goes out with Smallvilleing Diggle becoming the Green Lantern.
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As he's now an official member (Even if his own show is gonna act like it didn't happen) of the verse, I decided to nix the "And Black Lightning" bit in the title.
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Postby North German Realm » Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:58 am

Gotta say, Mick's lack of consistency is one of my only beefs with Legends of Tomorrow. Why the fuck has him being a time-mercenary not become a major part of the show (After S1, anyway) (though gotta admit he's always amusing to watch)
Also why the fuck does the fact that he can beat a fucking League of Assassins member Hand to Hand also not come up?
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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:37 pm

North German Realm wrote:Gotta say, Mick's lack of consistency is one of my only beefs with Legends of Tomorrow. Why the fuck has him being a time-mercenary not become a major part of the show (After S1, anyway) (though gotta admit he's always amusing to watch)
Also why the fuck does the fact that he can beat a fucking League of Assassins member Hand to Hand also not come up?

I think the show just likes to forget season 1. With good reason.
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Postby North German Realm » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:29 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
North German Realm wrote:Gotta say, Mick's lack of consistency is one of my only beefs with Legends of Tomorrow. Why the fuck has him being a time-mercenary not become a major part of the show (After S1, anyway) (though gotta admit he's always amusing to watch)
Also why the fuck does the fact that he can beat a fucking League of Assassins member Hand to Hand also not come up?

I think the show just likes to forget season 1. With good reason.

I don't see what good reason, tbh.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:32 pm

North German Realm wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:I think the show just likes to forget season 1. With good reason.

I don't see what good reason, tbh.

...Cause it was terrible? Vandal Savage was a total bust of a villain, Rory had barely a personality yet, the bird twits kept dragging the show down with their boring plot, etc.
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Postby North German Realm » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:55 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:
North German Realm wrote:I don't see what good reason, tbh.

...Cause it was terrible? Vandal Savage was a total bust of a villain, Rory had barely a personality yet, the bird twits kept dragging the show down with their boring plot, etc.

I mean... fair enough
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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:05 pm

Nice effort Legends, but I've seen too many actual slasher flicks. I knew where this was going before the opening titles rolled.
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Postby North German Realm » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:57 am

I'm not sure what is more terrifying a concept to behold, iZari loose on the ship or the fact that Mick got laid.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:17 am

They got rid of all the narration openings across the board. Which is cool because having Barry have to find a different way to say "and I'm the only one fast enough to stop it" or some variation was getting awkward.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:17 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:They got rid of all the narration openings across the board. Which is cool because having Barry have to find a different way to say "and I'm the only one fast enough to stop it" or some variation was getting awkward.

Yeah, can't say I miss that. New opening titles are pretty slick to boot.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:52 pm

Don't you do this to me, Legends.
John best not be dead. I ain't having that.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:33 am

Ameriganastan wrote:Don't you do this to me, Legends.
John best not be dead. I ain't having that.

They're setting up a classic story line. John gets the cancer, goes on a tour of his life, then decides to sell his soul to three different demons meaning if John dies there'll be a war in hell, so they have to keep him alive and cancer free. There was a version of that story used for the the Keanu Reeves Constantine movie. Or, since they're resolving the story that started in Constantine's own series, maybe he is dying because they don't know what to do with that character in a wack-a-do show.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:05 pm

I usually don't like Grodd episodes (I've always found him a lame villain even in the cartoons) but
him with Barry's powers cracked me up.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:02 pm

Oh for the love of God,
Darhk is coming back again? He's like a bad itch. You just can't get rid of him.


Anyway, that episode was a delight.
John Woo references, Genghis Khan on a scooter, Constantine lives, etc. Good stuff.
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Postby North German Realm » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:13 am

Ameriganastan wrote:Oh for the love of God,
Darhk is coming back again? He's like a bad itch. You just can't get rid of him.


Anyway, that episode was a delight.
John Woo references, Genghis Khan on a scooter, Constantine lives, etc. Good stuff.

Tbf, Season 1 nonwithstanding, every good season had Darhk as a main character in some capacity. And really, "Astra sends some souls in hell back for a 'second chance'" had 'Darhk is coming back' all over it :p
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Postby Liburia » Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:47 am

Here it goes. I've watched The Flash, Supergirl and Legends of Tomorrow and I like them in that order. To be honest first I watched the pilot episode from Arrow but I hated the actor and the character (who has no supernatural powers).
For me romance is just as important as the action so that is why seasons 2 and 3 from The Flash, season 2 from Supergirl and season 2 from the Legends were the most enjoyable for me. I'm currently watching season 3 from the Legends and since there's going to be girl-girl romance I will probably like that as well.
Also when I start watching a TV series I like to see LGBT characters in the mix. In that respect Supergirl and Legends are satisfying but they are mostly women, sadly.
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Liburia wrote:Here it goes. I've watched The Flash, Supergirl and Legends of Tomorrow and I like them in that order. To be honest first I watched the pilot episode from Arrow but I hated the actor and the character (who has no supernatural powers).
For me romance is just as important as the action so that is why seasons 2 and 3 from The Flash, season 2 from Supergirl and season 2 from the Legends were the most enjoyable for me. I'm currently watching season 3 from the Legends and since there's going to be girl-girl romance I will probably like that as well.
Also when I start watching a TV series I like to see LGBT characters in the mix. In that respect Supergirl and Legends are satisfying but they are mostly women, sadly.

Romance is why I quit watching Supergirl forever ago. Cause they never did it right. I mean Mon-El. God, that guy sucked. He shows up and Kara's entire personality became about him. And then there's how they fumbled Alex's romance plot. Cripes.
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Postby North German Realm » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:12 am

Liburia wrote:Here it goes. I've watched The Flash, Supergirl and Legends of Tomorrow and I like them in that order. To be honest first I watched the pilot episode from Arrow but I hated the actor and the character (who has no supernatural powers).
For me romance is just as important as the action so that is why seasons 2 and 3 from The Flash, season 2 from Supergirl and season 2 from the Legends were the most enjoyable for me. I'm currently watching season 3 from the Legends and since there's going to be girl-girl romance I will probably like that as well.
Also when I start watching a TV series I like to see LGBT characters in the mix. In that respect Supergirl and Legends are satisfying but they are mostly women, sadly.

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Postby The Master Primotav » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:34 pm

So I've been watching the Arrowverse since Arrow came out. And as a huge comic fan of DC I got to say I wasn't a fan of Arrow. He was too dark for what I would like to see in my Green Arrow. However, I kept watching and I started to like certain aspects of the show. When I saw Barry Allen enter. I was part of that group that really wanted to see The Flash come out as a TV show. The Flash has by far been the easiest one for me to get into. I am up to date on both Flash and Arrow. The first seasons of Legends and Supergirl were okay but as they progressed I did not like them as much. Not to say the Flash and Arrow are perfect but I find them better executed than Supergirl or Legends. I like the cross overs as well except for Crisis on Earth X. Earth X was poorly done and about all I liked in that was to see Snart return. But when it comes down to it, Crisis on Infinite Earths was perfect. It showed the merging of the Earths well as well as concluded Oliver's story perfectly. I will miss seeing the starter of the Arrowverse but he left a profound effect on all the shows and its audiences.

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With the conclusion of the crisis and with certain events in crisis, Is the DCEU relevant to the CWDC? I've heard yes and I've heard no.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:38 pm

The Master Primotav wrote:With the conclusion of the crisis and with certain events in crisis, Is the DCEU relevant to the CWDC? I've heard yes and I've heard no.

I mean, Ezra Miller Flash made a cameo in Infinite Earths. So maybe? I'm still trying to suss out what's what since the multiverse got condensed.
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Postby The Master Primotav » Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:42 pm

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The Master Primotav wrote:With the conclusion of the crisis and with certain events in crisis, Is the DCEU relevant to the CWDC? I've heard yes and I've heard no.

I mean, Ezra Miller Flash made a cameo in Infinite Earths. So maybe? I'm still trying to suss out what's what since the multiverse got condensed.


If it is canon to each other though that would be interesting to see that concept continue. I mean they did make Barry Allen from the 1980s relevant in the CWDC. So I wouldn't put it passed the CW to partner with WB
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Postby Ameriganastan » Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:00 pm

The Master Primotav wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:I mean, Ezra Miller Flash made a cameo in Infinite Earths. So maybe? I'm still trying to suss out what's what since the multiverse got condensed.


If it is canon to each other though that would be interesting to see that concept continue. I mean they did make Barry Allen from the 1980s relevant in the CWDC. So I wouldn't put it passed the CW to partner with WB

I'm curious how they'd continue it though. Cause the multiverse is gone now. One earth, one version of everyone. Unless they undo the multiverse erasure somehow.
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