Because the Cosmos has a beginning point at the Big Bang, which is scientifically confirmed.
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by Salus Maior » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:55 am
by Satuga » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:13 am
by Sarderia » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:14 am
Panslav wrote:Salus Maior wrote:
Even if there isn't a God, I would not say my time praying is wasted. It's done a lot to help me with my depression and helps me center myself when I need it.
I mean, it's a form of meditation.
That's... not the right way to treat (actual) depression. If you really do have depression, that's a mental health problem, and should be treated by a doctor, not prayers.
by Panslav » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:25 am
by Panslav » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:26 am
Satuga wrote:The of Korea wrote:why can't the cosmos be eternal on its own?
The cosmos is constantly expanding therefore it can't be eternal because if it was all the atoms in the universe would have been separated by now, which means the cosmos would just be a space filled with infinite single atoms. Or even totally stretched out to just be quarks or even strange quarks which would be a whole different ball game.
by Panslav » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:36 am
The Emerald Legion wrote:Panslav wrote:
And what if I don't think morals are a valid concept? I prefer societal norms (I mean, that's one way to define morals, but then, parental help isn't required for "moral compass", society is).
Quite honestly, your statement here makes no sense. Societal norms are based on the morals of the people making up the society. They can't replace them. That's like asking someone to build a house on top of itself.
And even there, Wider society has fairly little hand in the raising of children. That falls to the parents.
by Salus Maior » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:43 am
by Panslav » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:45 am
by Salus Maior » Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:59 am
Panslav wrote:The Emerald Legion wrote:
Quite honestly, your statement here makes no sense. Societal norms are based on the morals of the people making up the society. They can't replace them. That's like asking someone to build a house on top of itself.
And even there, Wider society has fairly little hand in the raising of children. That falls to the parents.
1. Why morals? Why not empathy/principles of humanism/whatever? I suppose you mean "morals" in the sense of religious "morals" aka "good, opposing evil" and not in the sense of "something a certain person considers to be righteous"
2. Public Schools. Let those two words sink in.
by Salus Maior » Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:00 pm
by The Emerald Legion » Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:20 pm
Panslav wrote:The Emerald Legion wrote:
Quite honestly, your statement here makes no sense. Societal norms are based on the morals of the people making up the society. They can't replace them. That's like asking someone to build a house on top of itself.
And even there, Wider society has fairly little hand in the raising of children. That falls to the parents.
1. Why morals? Why not empathy/principles of humanism/whatever? I suppose you mean "morals" in the sense of religious "morals" aka "good, opposing evil" and not in the sense of "something a certain person considers to be righteous"
2. Public Schools. Let those two words sink in.
by Albrenia » Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:54 pm
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Vaukiai wrote:I am sure that if I say everything the opposite, you don't warn me.
This forum is a jewish dictatorship.
by Neutraligon » Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:59 pm
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by Neutraligon » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:34 pm
by Imperial Joseon » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:35 pm
Neutraligon wrote:Imperial Joseon wrote:
What does that mean? Are there alternate theories to the origin of the universe?
Does universe men everything that has ever existed even if there where multiple contractions and expansions, or even alternate for lack of better word dimensions that ala marvel or dc but which we cannot access or does it simply mean everything that has existed since a big bang (if there have also been a cycle of bangs). If the later there may be many universes, or something may exist similar to the multiverse where each of the "dimensions" is a universe. As to alternate theories, currently the big bang is the best explanation for the state of the current universe but it does not really explain the origin of all things.
by Neutraligon » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:38 pm
Imperial Joseon wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Does universe men everything that has ever existed even if there where multiple contractions and expansions, or even alternate for lack of better word dimensions that ala marvel or dc but which we cannot access or does it simply mean everything that has existed since a big bang (if there have also been a cycle of bangs). If the later there may be many universes, or something may exist similar to the multiverse where each of the "dimensions" is a universe. As to alternate theories, currently the big bang is the best explanation for the state of the current universe but it does not really explain the origin of all things.
I understand now. I don't really believe in Big Bang, too, but I never thought of thinking about having multiple universes.
by Imperial Joseon » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:39 pm
Neutraligon wrote:Imperial Joseon wrote:
I understand now. I don't really believe in Big Bang, too, but I never thought of thinking about having multiple universes.
What do you mean you do not believe in the big bang?
Anyway, like others have said atheism itself cannot make anything better, as atheism is simply not having any go belief. Secularism and skepticism however have both one a great deal to make the world a better place
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