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by -Roma Invicta- » Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:52 pm
by Chrinthanium » Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:51 pm
-Roma Invicta- wrote:I support the above decision by Mari, gotta so what is right for you. As for my own requests on the former caliphate, I’ll detail my preference, which I’d want to end up with, but will entertain discussions on it.
As we’re just talking about the Caliphate, and give the stated exception it represents to
‘The Deal’, my requested transfer is just from the former caliphate .
Preference:
GAIN: Egypt (All, save Mari’s Suez Canal Zone) & Libya
DROP: All Roman territory on South America
by -Roma Invicta- » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:09 am
by Chrinthanium » Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:01 am
-Roma Invicta- wrote:After discussions on Discord, with a view to both maintaining my Madagascar thread and in developing a more moderate expansion (from a population perspective), I have adjusted my request accordingly. I would still drop all Roman territory in South America, and gain the following:
Libya
Tunisia
Algeria (Tlemcen, Sidi Bel Abbes, Saida, Tiaret, Medea, Bouira, Bordj Bou Arreridj, Setif, Mila, Constantine, Guelma, Souk Ahras, El Taref, Annaba, Skikda, Jijel, Bejaia, Tizi Ouzou, Bourmerdes, Algiers, Blida, Ain Defla, Tipaza, Chief, Tissmsilt, Relizane, Mostaganem, Mascara, Oran, Ain Temouchent)
Guam
Samoa
America Samoa
Easter Island
Socotra
This would allow me to put together a significant Roman heartland, around the Mediterranean, and have the remnants of a Colonial Empire that I had originally planned, as discussed on Discord it stands to reason that Rome would have had been at the forefront of that sort of thing. This would give me a population of 225,275,873. Although, if easier from a map perspective I could always just take all of Algeria too, which would result in approx 240-245, as everything after Algeria is small-change and doesn't add much in population, but will add colour and a sense of history to Rome's territories.
by -Roma Invicta- » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:28 pm
by Chrinthanium » Thu May 02, 2019 12:26 pm
-Roma Invicta- wrote:I prefer the compromise to be honest, as it’s closer to my original concept for a twenty first century Rome.
by Walmington on Sea » Fri May 10, 2019 9:50 pm
by Saint-Laurent » Sat May 25, 2019 7:09 am
Walmington on Sea wrote:I feel that it does make sense for Rome's empire to be concentrated around the Mediterranean. It seems improbable that the empire would have sought to compete with the Anglo-Germanic powers on the high seas in the long term, when rich and easy pickings lay closer to home and right where Rome could reasonably expect to monopolise them.
Perhaps, for the sake of other nations and their players ((California and others existing and likely to be proposed in future)), it could be said that Rome did briefly try to join in Asian and American colonisation, but found it inefficient compared to European and African expansion -especially given the comparative sparsity of Anglo-Walmingtonian privateers in the Mediterranean- and gave up relatively early, to focus on subduing Algeria and repulsing Gauls?
I am uncertain as to the point of the minor out-lying colonies in the Indian and Pacific Oceans, but not strongly inclined to vote against them for any particular reason.
Walmington on Sea wrote:Moving on to my own latest notion, I would like to state that I am considering a further relocation for Dra-pol, moving on from its down-sized place-holder position in Cambodia and the Mekong delta.
I have lately begun to tinker with an enormously over-due IC contribution from WoS, with thanks to Chrin for his approval for some British involvement. On all-but completing it as a news post, I find myself thinking that it will die there. One news post and done. Is there much point?
Instead, perhaps I should weave it into the frame of a new RP thread, involving Dra-pol. I think that it is high time for another war in AMW. I am happy that we have not had many, Rome's invasion of Madagascar aside, for quite some time, but it is also true that we have been even slower than we used to be. I do not think that anyone should be forced to RP a war if they are not so inclined, and as such I feel that it may be best for me to engage in another round of stop hitting yourself, and see who wants to join in.
I had a few ideas. One is simply to return Dra-pol to Myanmar, where the autarkic Kurosite model can surely be sustained, given the potential rice yields of the Ayeyarwady delta. Another was to shift Dra-pol to an island, perhaps helping to explain that very isolationism in some degree, and not bothering any neighbours.
Borneo was the first thought, with perhaps Brunei persisting as a concession as existed in previous iterations of the claim, but of course the Valendians are already there. Sulawesi, in Indonesia, and Mindanao, in the Philippines, might both work, being significant centres of agriculture, and somewhat defensible, with populations in the 20-million range. Whether their natural resources and/or geographical situation would have made them important enough for Walmington to fight over for a protracted period I am not sure.
I am leaning towards Mindanao, but am open to comment.
Once a decision has been reached, I will be starting a new thread, though I am not sure where it will be heading.
by Chrinthanium » Sat May 25, 2019 6:05 pm
Walmington on Sea wrote:I feel that it does make sense for Rome's empire to be concentrated around the Mediterranean. It seems improbable that the empire would have sought to compete with the Anglo-Germanic powers on the high seas in the long term, when rich and easy pickings lay closer to home and right where Rome could reasonably expect to monopolise them.
Perhaps, for the sake of other nations and their players ((California and others existing and likely to be proposed in future)), it could be said that Rome did briefly try to join in Asian and American colonisation, but found it inefficient compared to European and African expansion -especially given the comparative sparsity of Anglo-Walmingtonian privateers in the Mediterranean- and gave up relatively early, to focus on subduing Algeria and repulsing Gauls?
I am uncertain as to the point of the minor out-lying colonies in the Indian and Pacific Oceans, but not strongly inclined to vote against them for any particular reason.
Moving on to my own latest notion, I would like to state that I am considering a further relocation for Dra-pol, moving on from its down-sized place-holder position in Cambodia and the Mekong delta.
I have lately begun to tinker with an enormously over-due IC contribution from WoS, with thanks to Chrin for his approval for some British involvement. On all-but completing it as a news post, I find myself thinking that it will die there. One news post and done. Is there much point?
Instead, perhaps I should weave it into the frame of a new RP thread, involving Dra-pol. I think that it is high time for another war in AMW. I am happy that we have not had many, Rome's invasion of Madagascar aside, for quite some time, but it is also true that we have been even slower than we used to be. I do not think that anyone should be forced to RP a war if they are not so inclined, and as such I feel that it may be best for me to engage in another round of stop hitting yourself, and see who wants to join in.
I had a few ideas. One is simply to return Dra-pol to Myanmar, where the autarkic Kurosite model can surely be sustained, given the potential rice yields of the Ayeyarwady delta. Another was to shift Dra-pol to an island, perhaps helping to explain that very isolationism in some degree, and not bothering any neighbours.
Borneo was the first thought, with perhaps Brunei persisting as a concession as existed in previous iterations of the claim, but of course the Valendians are already there. Sulawesi, in Indonesia, and Mindanao, in the Philippines, might both work, being significant centres of agriculture, and somewhat defensible, with populations in the 20-million range. Whether their natural resources and/or geographical situation would have made them important enough for Walmington to fight over for a protracted period I am not sure.
I am leaning towards Mindanao, but am open to comment.
Once a decision has been reached, I will be starting a new thread, though I am not sure where it will be heading.
by Walmington on Sea » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:44 pm
by Chrinthanium » Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:41 pm
Walmington on Sea wrote:Sulawesi it is. Let us appreciate the Directors like it is whatever blessed year in which AMW came to be!
Sula-besi, the iron island, trumps the various other options I have considered.
In fact I have been held back almost exclusively by my feeling that the indigenous fauna is not exactly what I had imagined for Dra-pol, the wildcat country being poorly served by the likes of the Sulawesi palm civet. Never the less, if I ascribe supernatural powers to said creature in Drapoel folklore ((and assume historic import of certain other beasts)) that issue should not prove prohibitive.
Picture it on a map, an independent nation state, and Sulawesi is... well, is it not just the right shape to be Dra-pol? A peninsula for each of the four historic kingdoms -Su'drap, Pin'drap, Ide, and Ke- that would eventually be united at Da'Khiem ((perhaps at Lake Poso)) and set firmly against the rest of the world.
The population is last estimated at 18,455,058 and probably rising ((compared with almost 34 million for Cambodia and the Mekong delta in Vietnam, where Dra-pol's place has been lately held)), and the island provides sufficient agricultural potential for my aims in Dra-pol.
In addition to shifting Dra-pol to Sulawesi, I should like to add the Moluccas -Maluku and North Maluku- to Wamington. This increases by some 2,844,131 the subjects, citizens, and protected persons of the Godfreyite realm.
I intend that, early in the Age of Sail, people now known as Walmingtonian should have begun the Christian colonisation of the eastern parts of what we know in reality as Indonesia. The Moluccas, with their unique spices, were the draw, and the larger island of Dra-pol was intended to be the anchor to which the Walmingtonian Far East could be secured.
It is through one of history's most brutal conflicts that Dra-pol breaks free of Walmington, while the near-by Moluccas remain under the yoke, tending the embers of Godfreyite interest in the region and tempting the Imperial Federation always to rejoin the fray upon the iron shores.
I would use these changes to build on the nature of the Imperial Federation. Regard!:
The old kingdoms of Angleland, Amberland, and Norbray united under one crown, and built an empire. When that empire began to crumble, the united kingdom reconstituted itself a federation, the three constituents becoming dominions of the one crown while the major colonies of Albany, Newfoundland, the Canadas, and the Fortunate Isles were raised to said same status, and the King of the Godfreyites came to rule seven Dominions.
His Godfreyite Majesty would also grant to private companies two royal charters by which to administer on his behalf the colonies of the Green Cape and Waynesia, while the Dominions would maintain a number of Overseas Territories, being Newry, Greenland, Coldshore; Saint Helena, Ascension, and Wendsleybury; and Gibraltar.
Now, the Dominions -chiefly those three which had been kingdoms-, shall retain the right to pursue colonial endeavours of their own, and so we find Honduras and what I had called the West Indies, the Spice Islands, the Indian Ocean Territory, Ceyloba, and the East Indies colonised variously by Angleland, Amberland, and others, and then subjugated by those states to the royal authority of the Imperial Federation.
I am inclined to drop the Lakshadweep and move, 'Ceyloba' to the Moluccas. That larger territory seems far more worth fighting for, and I can imagine the fateful intervention of a *Chrinthani* Admiral Coney saving an otherwise doomed Angleish outpost from apparently imminent destruction ((there is a pre-AMW reference for anyone ancient enough to recall!)), perhaps later to rue that action.
There shall be scope for other colonially-inclined nations to hold or to have held concessions on the new Drapoel coast, and any who wish to involve themselves in wars current or historic will find plenty of scope in this proposal.
These meandering paragraphs shall be given flesh, but now I plant my flag and retire for the evening.
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The Caribbean Confederation (CARICON)
Claim: British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Jamaica, Nicaragua, Panama, Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands, Venezuela
Population: 166,707,646
Demonym: Caribbean, individual national demonyms
Seat of Secretariat: Port-au-Prince, Haitian Republic
Government: Supranational Organisation
- Secretary-General: TBA
Total GDP: $2,333,907,044,000
GDP per capita: $14,000
Currency: Caribbean Dollar (CD)
Official Languages: English, possibly others depending on colonial history
Other Languages: Depends on colonial history
Very Brief History, to be fleshed out with relevant individuals:
CARICON was formed in the early 1970s as an attempt by various former colonial nations within the Caribbean and Central America to forge a united presence on the world stage, as they recognised that individually they lacked any real global voice. The organisation proved successful in stimulating cooperation between the member states in a variety of areas and over time the membership of CARICON expanded. In the year 2001, the organisation adopted a common currency called the Caribbean Dollar.
Politics:
CARICON is a supranational organisation comprised of 12 member-states with a Chairman and a Secretary-General. The post of Chairman is held in rotation by the Heads of State of the member states, and the Chairman is effectively the Head of State for CARICON. The Secretary-General is appointed by the Conference of Heads of Government for a five-year term with no term limits, and acts as the Chief Executive Officer of CARICON as well as the head of its principal administrative organ, the CARICON Secretariat. The CARICON Secretariat oversees and organises cooperation between the member states in a variety of economic and political areas.
The individual member states are all presidential democracies with varying legislatures (some unicameral, some bicameral), elected through universal sufferage.
Economy:
The Caribbean economy consists primarily of agriculture, resource extraction, and tourism. CARICON encourages investment from foreign sources and the organisation is eager to work with multinationals in order to improve the region's economy. There are a handful of large corporations existing within CARICON which have developed in the primary sectors of the Caribbean economy, and they are also welcoming of foreign investment opportunities. CARICON also operates the Panama Canal as a joint administration with observer members from foreign governments which have an interest in the Canal's operations. CARICON has also become the home of several potential offshore banking organisations, making the region an attractive proposition for wealthy individuals to stow their money away safely (and maintain luxurious vacation homes in the region as well).
Foreign Relations:
CARICON seeks good relations with all nations around the world and will always look for a peaceful resolution to conflicts as opposed to armed action.
Military
As an organisation, CARICON is not what you deem to be a military superpower by any stretch. Aside from a small CARICON Joint Reaction Force based in the Haitian Republic, the member nations maintain their own individual military forces. As a result, some members are better equipped and militarily stronger than others. CARICON has yet to face a military threat since its inception and therefore the effectiveness of military cooperation between the member states remains to be seen.
by Chrinthanium » Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:35 pm
Marimaia wrote:As Chrin has granted me permission to toss my hat into the ring, I'd like to submit the following for consideration:The Caribbean Confederation (CARICON)
Claim: British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Jamaica, Nicaragua, Panama, Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands, Venezuela
Population: 166,707,646
Demonym: Caribbean, individual national demonyms
Seat of Secretariat: Port-au-Prince, Haitian Republic
Government: Supranational Organisation
- Secretary-General: TBA
Total GDP: $2,333,907,044,000
GDP per capita: $14,000
Currency: Caribbean Dollar (CD)
Official Languages: English, possibly others depending on colonial history
Other Languages: Depends on colonial history
Very Brief History, to be fleshed out with relevant individuals:
CARICON was formed in the early 1970s as an attempt by various former colonial nations within the Caribbean and Central America to forge a united presence on the world stage, as they recognised that individually they lacked any real global voice. The organisation proved successful in stimulating cooperation between the member states in a variety of areas and over time the membership of CARICON expanded. In the year 2001, the organisation adopted a common currency called the Caribbean Dollar.
Politics:
CARICON is a supranational organisation comprised of 12 member-states with a Chairman and a Secretary-General. The post of Chairman is held in rotation by the Heads of State of the member states, and the Chairman is effectively the Head of State for CARICON. The Secretary-General is appointed by the Conference of Heads of Government for a five-year term with no term limits, and acts as the Chief Executive Officer of CARICON as well as the head of its principal administrative organ, the CARICON Secretariat. The CARICON Secretariat oversees and organises cooperation between the member states in a variety of economic and political areas.
The individual member states are all presidential democracies with varying legislatures (some unicameral, some bicameral), elected through universal sufferage.
Economy:
The Caribbean economy consists primarily of agriculture, resource extraction, and tourism. CARICON encourages investment from foreign sources and the organisation is eager to work with multinationals in order to improve the region's economy. There are a handful of large corporations existing within CARICON which have developed in the primary sectors of the Caribbean economy, and they are also welcoming of foreign investment opportunities. CARICON also operates the Panama Canal as a joint administration with observer members from foreign governments which have an interest in the Canal's operations. CARICON has also become the home of several potential offshore banking organisations, making the region an attractive proposition for wealthy individuals to stow their money away safely (and maintain luxurious vacation homes in the region as well).
Foreign Relations:
CARICON seeks good relations with all nations around the world and will always look for a peaceful resolution to conflicts as opposed to armed action.
Military
As an organisation, CARICON is not what you deem to be a military superpower by any stretch. Aside from a small CARICON Joint Reaction Force based in the Haitian Republic, the member nations maintain their own individual military forces. As a result, some members are better equipped and militarily stronger than others. CARICON has yet to face a military threat since its inception and therefore the effectiveness of military cooperation between the member states remains to be seen.
If anything requires discussion then I am more than happy to engage in such discussion (if it's deemed to be too large or the GDP is too high, for example)
History and such can be fleshed out once I know who my former colonisers are and which languages they speak, etc.
by The Crooked Beat » Fri Feb 14, 2020 1:15 pm
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