Outcome: A Post-WW3 RP [OOC] [CLOSED]

[Zjaum]

GDP in $US:$10,355,655,854
Estimated Population:229,058,886
Other Information:no
08092020 TRACKING PURPOSES

Um, just so you know, 10 billion dollars is a hilariously low GDP. Brazil's current GDP rests at about 2 trillion dollars, and its projections for 2060 are at about 6 trillion. My recommendation is to put it at 4 trillion, or a similar number.

[Northern Poland]

Um, just so you know, 10 billion dollars is a hilariously low GDP. Brazil's current GDP rests at about 2 trillion dollars, and its projections for 2060 are at about 6 trillion. My recommendation is to put it at 4 trillion, or a similar number.

Yeah, that's lower than Modern North korea, with a 40 Billion GDP for the hermit kingdom!

[Bentus]

Um, just so you know, 10 billion dollars is a hilariously low GDP. Brazil's current GDP rests at about 2 trillion dollars, and its projections for 2060 are at about 6 trillion. My recommendation is to put it at 4 trillion, or a similar number.

Yeah, that's lower than Modern North korea, with a 40 Billion GDP for the hermit kingdom!

Went ahead and did a calculation using Brazil's expected gdp per capita (PPP) in 2040:
230 million x 27,700 = $6.37 trillion

[Albennia]

US GDP is $10 trillion higher than what it should be.

[Bentus]

US GDP is $10 trillion higher than what it should be.

This is true, but still need to hear from the OP about what kind of GDP methodology we really want to be using in the rp. Could be that the US just underwent some kind of huge economic expansion in this timeline, but not sure how balanced that'd be considering how powerful its economy already is.

On a separate note, I was wondering: what happened to the populations of India and Pakistan? If those countries aren't really inhabited anymore, there would've been a huge flow of refugees - where'd they all end up?

[Northern Poland]

US GDP is $10 trillion higher than what it should be.

This is true, but still need to hear from the OP about what kind of GDP methodology we really want to be using in the rp. Could be that the US just underwent some kind of huge economic expansion in this timeline, but not sure how balanced that'd be considering how powerful its economy already is.

On a separate note, I was wondering: what happened to the populations of India and Pakistan? If those countries aren't really inhabited anymore, there would've been a huge flow of refugees - where'd they all end up?

Probably Southern Asia, ROC, or communist China

[The National Dominion of Hungary]

Also I'd say the US population is a bit high since most of Americas population growth between 2010 and 2040 is estimated to come from immigration and these immigrants then having a family in the US. Not sure how many people would like to immigrate to a nation torn by civil war.

[Bentus]

Probably Southern Asia, ROC, or communist China

That's what I was thinking. On the one hand I think it'd be an interesting development to explore since those countries aren't necessarily that used to mass immigration - but it would also radically increase their populations, which would in turn impact their GDP calculations.

Edit:

Also I'd say the US population is a bit high since most of Americas population growth between 2010 and 2040 is estimated to come from immigration and these immigrants then having a family in the US. Not sure how many people would like to immigrate to a nation torn by civil war.

I agree. Though could say that the difference was made up by a big chunk of the Indian diaspora moving to the US?

[Northern Poland]

Probably Southern Asia, ROC, or communist China

That's what I was thinking. On the one hand I think it'd be an interesting development to explore since those countries aren't necessarily that used to mass immigration - but it would also radically increase their populations, which would in turn impact their GDP calculations.

Edit:

Also I'd say the US population is a bit high since most of Americas population growth between 2010 and 2040 is estimated to come from immigration and these immigrants then having a family in the US. Not sure how many people would like to immigrate to a nation torn by civil war.

I agree. Though could say that the difference was made up by a big chunk of the Indian diaspora moving to the US?

Probably only the richer people would have the money to get to the US. I doubt that most Indians could get to the US. Most only get 1,162 per year.

[The National Dominion of Hungary]

The addition of most of Canada will add like 20/25 million or so to the US population, add a bunch of indian refugees and maybe a bit higher natural growth like after WW2 to make natural growth higher than the projected 25-ish% (I think) for the period but I still doubt it would be much higher than like 365-ish million max.

[Zjaum]

Friendly reminder that the U.S. state of California has a larger population than Canada as a whole!

[New Demorvian]

NS Name:American Pere Housh
Formal Nation Name:Federal Republic of Brazil
Informal Nation Name:Brazil
Description or Map of Territory:all 2040 territory
Capital City:Brasilia
Link To National Anthem:https://youtu.be/7lc9bcN7ecQ%20klkhv
Flag:(Image)
Current Ruling Political Party:Social Conservative Party
Current Head of State:Emilio Vazquez
Ideology:Conservative
History Since 2019:Same above history
Overview of Nation's Economy:Since the end of WW3, Brazil went the way of the United States by declaring isolation in order to rebuild the Brazilian economy and infrastructure. In 2038, Brazil open its border to foreign investors which allowed its economy to to take off.
Overview of Nation's Political Structure:Federal Presidential Democracy ruled by the President, a Bicameral Federal Congress consisting of the Senate and the House of Deputies. The Judiciary system consists of a Supreme Court, several courts of appeals and federal district courts. The 2 main political parties in Brazil is the Social Conservative Party and the Social Democratic Party.
Overview of Foreign Relations:Has close relations with nations of the Entente especially the U.S., the Eurasian Federation, Japan, North and South Korea, Australia, Taiwan, and Mexico. Relations with other nations are neutral.
Name of Armed Forces:Brazilian Armed Forces
Land Army Name and Size:Brazilian Army, 750,000
Navy Name and Size:Federal Brazilian Navy, 150,000
Air Force Name and Size:Brazilian Air Force, 200,000
Other Military Branches:Brazilian Marine Corps, 150,000
GDP in $US:$10,355,655,854
Estimated Population:229,058,886
Other Information:no
08092020 TRACKING PURPOSES

Accepted

[New Demorvian]

US GDP is $10 trillion higher than what it should be.

This is true, but still need to hear from the OP about what kind of GDP methodology we really want to be using in the rp. Could be that the US just underwent some kind of huge economic expansion in this timeline, but not sure how balanced that'd be considering how powerful its economy already is.

On a separate note, I was wondering: what happened to the populations of India and Pakistan? If those countries aren't really inhabited anymore, there would've been a huge flow of refugees - where'd they all end up?

On the part about India and Pakistan, 500 million died by 2030, around 300 million fled, the rest were forced to stay behind in a lawless, radioactive wasteland. Bangladesh collapsed due to both mass migration and spreading nuclear fallout. Fallout didn't spread far in the mountains of Iran, Afghanistan and the Himalayas. Myanmar, Sri Lanka, and Oman were partially hit by the fallout. Millions didn't die in those areas, but there was a spike in cancer rates. By 2040, there would probably only be around 200-300 million people left in India and Pakistan.

[Bentus]

On the part about India and Pakistan, 500 million died by 2030, around 300 million fled, the rest were forced to stay behind in a lawless, radioactive wasteland. Bangladesh collapsed due to both mass migration and spreading nuclear fallout. Fallout didn't spread far in the mountains of Iran, Afghanistan and the Himalayas. Myanmar, Sri Lanka, and Oman were partially hit by the fallout. Millions didn't die in those areas, but there was a spike in cancer rates. By 2040, there would probably only be around 200-300 million people left in India and Pakistan.

Bloody hell. So that's about 1/7 of the world's population being killed right there? Kind of makes the rest of the war look almost tame in comparison kind of interested to see what the rest of the world has been doing in response to that.

Edit: Actually, a bit closer to 11% after crunching the numbers - my b

[New Demorvian]

On the part about India and Pakistan, 500 million died by 2030, around 300 million fled, the rest were forced to stay behind in a lawless, radioactive wasteland. Bangladesh collapsed due to both mass migration and spreading nuclear fallout. Fallout didn't spread far in the mountains of Iran, Afghanistan and the Himalayas. Myanmar, Sri Lanka, and Oman were partially hit by the fallout. Millions didn't die in those areas, but there was a spike in cancer rates. By 2040, there would probably only be around 200-300 million people left in India and Pakistan.

Bloody hell. So that's about 1/7 of the world's population being killed right there? Kind of makes the rest of the war look almost tame in comparison kind of interested to see what the rest of the world has been doing in response to that.

Edit: Actually, a bit closer to 11% after crunching the numbers - my b

No country in earth can handle such an apocalyptic scenario. The Indo-Pakistani diaspora would've been the largest in history. It changes the demographics of many countries in Asia in the years after it happened. As for India and Pakistan, it's a mess. The water is irradiated, starvation is widespread, electricity is a thing of the past. The rare inhabitable areas are overcrowded and plagued by disease. No country has the resources to even begin to deal with this event. All they can do is wait for the radiation to drop to safe levels, and hope for the best.

[New Demorvian]

I'm thinking about occasionally putting "random events" in the IC. Basically, an event of my choosing happens. Whether it be a natural disaster, disease outbreak, political and civil unrest, ETC To keep things fresh.

More about these, I'll format them in the style of news reports, (The BBC in this case) and it's supposed to mostly affect countries with nobody playing them. First one is Here. Have fun with these.

[Northern Poland]

I'm thinking about occasionally putting "random events" in the IC. Basically, an event of my choosing happens. Whether it be a natural disaster, disease outbreak, political and civil unrest, ETC To keep things fresh.

More about these, I'll format them in the style of news reports, (The BBC in this case) and it's supposed to mostly affect countries with nobody playing them. First one is Here. Have fun with these.

So if Bavaria is an independent country, and the Germans are sending troops...illegal intervention?


Or do they have the support of Bavaria?

Even so, maybe it's time for Eurasia to do some meddling.

[New Demorvian]

More about these, I'll format them in the style of news reports, (The BBC in this case) and it's supposed to mostly affect countries with nobody playing them. First one is Here. Have fun with these.

So if Bavaria is an independent country, and the Germans are sending troops...illegal intervention?


Or do they have the support of Bavaria?

Even so, maybe it's time for Eurasia to do some meddling.

It's technically illegal, but they don't want to annex them.

[Northern Poland]

So if Bavaria is an independent country, and the Germans are sending troops...illegal intervention?


Or do they have the support of Bavaria?

Even so, maybe it's time for Eurasia to do some meddling.

It's technically illegal, but they don't want to annex them.

Yep, time to strongarm the germans again.

[Northern Poland]

Post up.

[American Pere Housh]

NS Name:American Pere Housh
Formal Nation Name:Federal Republic of Brazil
Informal Nation Name:Brazil
Description or Map of Territory:all 2040 territory
Capital City:Brasilia
Link To National Anthem:https://youtu.be/7lc9bcN7ecQ%20klkhv
Flag:(Image)
Current Ruling Political Party:Social Conservative Party
Current Head of State:Emilio Vazquez
Ideology:Conservative
History Since 2019:Same above history
Overview of Nation's Economy:Since the end of WW3, Brazil went the way of the United States by declaring isolation in order to rebuild the Brazilian economy and infrastructure. In 2038, Brazil open its border to foreign investors which allowed its economy to to take off.
Overview of Nation's Political Structure:Federal Presidential Democracy ruled by the President, a Bicameral Federal Congress consisting of the Senate and the House of Deputies. The Judiciary system consists of a Supreme Court, several courts of appeals and federal district courts. The 2 main political parties in Brazil is the Social Conservative Party and the Social Democratic Party.
Overview of Foreign Relations:Has close relations with nations of the Entente especially the U.S., the Eurasian Federation, Japan, North and South Korea, Australia, Taiwan, and Mexico. Relations with other nations are neutral.
Name of Armed Forces:Brazilian Armed Forces
Land Army Name and Size:Brazilian Army, 750,000
Navy Name and Size:Federal Brazilian Navy, 150,000
Air Force Name and Size:Brazilian Air Force, 200,000
Other Military Branches:Brazilian Marine Corps, 150,000
GDP in $US:$6.37 trillion
Estimated Population:229,058,886
Other Information:no
08092020 TRACKING PURPOSES

[TENNOHEIKA BANZAI NIHON]

Posted. Might spark tensions with Communist China or the ROC, but pretty minor overall.

[Antityranicals]

US GDP is $10 trillion higher than what it should be.

This is true, but still need to hear from the OP about what kind of GDP methodology we really want to be using in the rp. Could be that the US just underwent some kind of huge economic expansion in this timeline, but not sure how balanced that'd be considering how powerful its economy already is.

On a separate note, I was wondering: what happened to the populations of India and Pakistan? If those countries aren't really inhabited anymore, there would've been a huge flow of refugees - where'd they all end up?

One thing that is worth noting: inflation, folks. Wars bring about inflation. Even though post-WWIII fiscal policy on the US dollar would be inflation-suspicious at best, the dollar's value would still drop significantly. I'm imagining a US GDP of about 30-32 trillion in 2020 USD, but in 2040 USDs, 37 trillion is a conservative estimate.

Also I'd say the US population is a bit high since most of Americas population growth between 2010 and 2040 is estimated to come from immigration and these immigrants then having a family in the US. Not sure how many people would like to immigrate to a nation torn by civil war.

On the contrary, a post-Civil War United States would experience far greater immigration insurgency. Certainly, during the civil war, immigration would slow, but certainly not stop, because there is still the US heartland to settle in. But after the civil war, resulting low property values, business friendly policies, and the rest of the world being even more of a mess would bring about 1880s level immigration...

[Northern Poland]

bump

[Greater Redosia]

China will grow larger