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Who do you think will win South Carolina?

Sanders
27
59%
Warren
0
No votes
Biden
18
39%
Buttigieg
0
No votes
Klobuchar
1
2%
Steyer
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 46

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:39 pm

On updated figures I have Biden picking up one, instead of Sanders. Buttigieg gets the other "rounding" delegate.

But wait for the official estimate of Delegates if me being wrong bothers you a lot:

Buttigieg 550.339----------13
Sanders 546.912-----------12
Warren 381.258-------------8
Biden 331.351--------------8


EDIT: Another thing, is don't hang out too badly. "National Convention Delegates will not be published until all precincts and satellite sites have reported."

Satellite sites include some not in the USA … it could take days yet.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:42 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:On updated figures I have Biden picking up one, instead of Sanders. Buttigieg gets the other "rounding" delegate.

But wait for the official estimate of Delegates if me being wrong bothers you a lot:

Buttigieg 550.339----------13
Sanders 546.912-----------12
Warren 381.258-------------8
Biden 331.351--------------8

A 1 delegate difference. RIGGED I TELL YOU, RIGGED!
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:45 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:On updated figures I have Biden picking up one, instead of Sanders. Buttigieg gets the other "rounding" delegate.

But wait for the official estimate of Delegates if me being wrong bothers you a lot:

Buttigieg 550.339----------13
Sanders 546.912-----------12
Warren 381.258-------------8
Biden 331.351--------------8

A 1 delegate difference. RIGGED I TELL YOU, RIGGED!


Sanders nearly has equality, and unlike popular vote equality in SDE's means equality in Delegates.
Equality won't be good enough though, RIGGED!
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:50 pm

Are satellite results in yet? If not, it is very likely that Sanders wins.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:53 pm

South Odreria 2 wrote:Are satellite results in yet? If not, it is very likely that Sanders wins.


You think those who work overseas (inc. military) and those who travel overseas would lean Sanders?
I'm dubious.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:54 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:Are satellite results in yet? If not, it is very likely that Sanders wins.


You think those who work overseas (inc. military) and those who travel overseas would lean Sanders?
I'm dubious.

Doubt they're all military.
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:55 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:Are satellite results in yet? If not, it is very likely that Sanders wins.


You think those who work overseas (inc. military) and those who travel overseas would lean Sanders?
I'm dubious.

I know he won in Glasgow and Tbilisi and a late-shift meat-packers caucus and in a couple mosques. I know Klobuchar won in Florida and Warren won in Paris.
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Postby Uiiop » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:56 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:Are satellite results in yet? If not, it is very likely that Sanders wins.


You think those who work overseas (inc. military) and those who travel overseas would lean Sanders?
I'm dubious.

IIRC the answer for the military is yes but i forgot where i heard it.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:57 pm

Let's be clear counties don't matter. Unless you're actually a county delegate you don't have to know the result in any of Iowa's counties.

But. There is a Pocahontas County. 8)
There's even a Warren County.
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:57 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
You think those who work overseas (inc. military) and those who travel overseas would lean Sanders?
I'm dubious.

IIRC the answer for the military is yes but i forgot where i heard it.

He leads in donations from current military members if that's what you're thinking of?
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Postby South Odreria 2 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:02 pm

Update: There is one satellite caucus imaginary district left out of four. Sanders won the first three by wide margins, netting twelve delegates in CD3 and 8 out of 2 and 4. CD1 has 0% reporting. Sanders beat Clinton 80 to 19 in CD1 last time.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:04 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Gormwood wrote:A 1 delegate difference. RIGGED I TELL YOU, RIGGED!


Sanders nearly has equality, and unlike popular vote equality in SDE's means equality in Delegates.
Equality won't be good enough though, RIGGED!

It is interesting that our institutions have fucked things so hard the last several years that any irregularity is met with instant suspicion of nefarious intent.

They’ve thoroughly deconstructed any trust they had to the point they’re considered malevolent by default.

Oops.
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Postby Torrocca » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:06 pm

Galloism wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Sanders nearly has equality, and unlike popular vote equality in SDE's means equality in Delegates.
Equality won't be good enough though, RIGGED!

It is interesting that our institutions have fucked things so hard the last several years that any irregularity is met with instant suspicion of nefarious intent.

They’ve thoroughly deconstructed any trust they had to the point they’re considered malevolent by default.

Oops.


We shouldn't trust them by default, especially not after seeing them try to tamper with the results of the Iowa Caucus right before our very own eyes.

I'm hyped as fuck that we might very well be seeing the will of the workers triumph over the schemes of the political and economic elites despite that though.
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Postby Arlenton » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:08 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
South Odreria 2 wrote:Are satellite results in yet? If not, it is very likely that Sanders wins.


You think those who work overseas (inc. military) and those who travel overseas would lean Sanders?
I'm dubious.

The vast majority of Democrats abroad went to Sanders, excluding I think, a handful of Latin American countries I think. I need to try and find where I saw that.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:14 pm



What is Klobuchar doing in the list? That's confusing me. TGP thinks she's back in
nope, cat on keyboard error


It is possible that the delegate Sanders and Buttigieg are fighting over actually goes to someone else. Warren being the most likely.
That opens the possibility of Sanders and Buttigieg equal after all, but on 12 instead of 13.
I'm loving this!
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Postby Cisairse » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:28 pm

Gormwood wrote:Why are people acting like Iowa is game set match?


Before Monday, there were a number of scenarios in which it would have been.

Tombradyonia wrote:I just got off the phone with the DNC, apparently I won the Iowa caucus by a unanimous vote 8)


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Postby Cisairse » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:31 pm

Galloism wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Sanders nearly has equality, and unlike popular vote equality in SDE's means equality in Delegates.
Equality won't be good enough though, RIGGED!

It is interesting that our institutions have fucked things so hard the last several years that any irregularity is met with instant suspicion of nefarious intent.

They’ve thoroughly deconstructed any trust they had to the point they’re considered malevolent by default.

Oops.


I mean, until relatively recently "irregularity" was synonymous with "interference" because until very recently we had voting systems that worked.

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What is Klobuchar doing in the list? That's confusing me. TGP thinks she's back in
nope, cat on keyboard error


It is possible that the delegate Sanders and Buttigieg are fighting over actually goes to someone else. Warren being the most likely.
That opens the possibility of Sanders and Buttigieg equal after all, but on 12 instead of 13.
I'm loving this!


I just want Bloomberg to get 1 delegate so we see him in the debate on Friday. I already have a guestlist for my viewing party and I want to justify how much wine I'm buying.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:41 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
What is Klobuchar doing in the list? That's confusing me. TGP thinks she's back in
nope, cat on keyboard error


It is possible that the delegate Sanders and Buttigieg are fighting over actually goes to someone else. Warren being the most likely.
That opens the possibility of Sanders and Buttigieg equal after all, but on 12 instead of 13.
I'm loving this!


I just want Bloomberg to get 1 delegate so we see him in the debate on Friday. I already have a guestlist for my viewing party and I want to justify how much wine I'm buying.


Maybe you should have scheduled after NH, cos there's no way he's getting a delegate here. Total dud.

If the other candidates all asked for it, I think the DNC probably would change the debate rule again.
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Postby Cisairse » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:42 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
I just want Bloomberg to get 1 delegate so we see him in the debate on Friday. I already have a guestlist for my viewing party and I want to justify how much wine I'm buying.


Maybe you should have scheduled after NH, cos there's no way he's getting a delegate here. Total dud.

If the other candidates all asked for it, I think the DNC probably would change the debate rule again.


The change so you qualify if you have one DNC delegate was more or less specifically so Bloomberg and Yang could attend. Unfortunately, that didn't work out for either candidate (although Yang qualified under the original rules eventually anyway).
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Postby Kruiven » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:43 pm

97% in and IDP says no new results coming out tonight, LOL.
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Postby Cisairse » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:46 pm

You know if I believed in the competence of mid-level bureaucrats, the fact that they basically declared Pete the winner on Tuesday and have drawn out as many numbers as possible before *gasp* revealing at the end that whoops looks like Bernie was the real winner the whole time would definitely make me believe they rigged this on purpose when they realized Pete wasn't going to win.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:47 pm

Kruiven wrote:97% in and IDP says no new results coming out tonight, LOL.


Hey they need to sleep, so they'll be up for another day of making paper aeroplanes and trying to come up with new nicknames for Klobuchar.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:50 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Maybe you should have scheduled after NH, cos there's no way he's getting a delegate here. Total dud.

If the other candidates all asked for it, I think the DNC probably would change the debate rule again.


The change so you qualify if you have one DNC delegate was more or less specifically so Bloomberg and Yang could attend. Unfortunately, that didn't work out for either candidate (although Yang qualified under the original rules eventually anyway).


Since other candidates have expressed their eagerness to rip Bloomberg a new asshole, why would he want to be there?
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Postby Iridencia » Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:04 am

Galloism wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Sanders nearly has equality, and unlike popular vote equality in SDE's means equality in Delegates.
Equality won't be good enough though, RIGGED!

It is interesting that our institutions have fucked things so hard the last several years that any irregularity is met with instant suspicion of nefarious intent.

They’ve thoroughly deconstructed any trust they had to the point they’re considered malevolent by default.

Oops.


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