2020 US General Election Thread IV: The Battle Begins

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Did you just ask me what the problem was with the right-hand man of a war criminal, an oligarch who effectively bought his way through the election, some rainbow capitalist idiot and a woman who is effectively the Democrat Nixon?

So what makes four more years of Trump preferable to any of them?

Let's take it down one by one:

1. Biden, quite literally, an accomplice to war crimes. He'd most likely put troops back in Syria and in a lot of other places, leading to tens of thousands or maybe even hundreds of thousands of deaths, perhaps reaching the millions if he started an Iran War.
2. Bloomberg is a walking threat to democracy. He doesn't have the disregard for norms that Trump has, but that's because people like him ARE the system. People who buy their way to political office are not politicians: they are oligarchs. And I do not want an oligarch in the White House.
3. Buttigieg is the least problematic of the bunch, but he still exhibits their disastrous policies and seems to have made a career out of exploiting his background to garner sympathy. As a gay man myself, I would like to sincerely tell him to fuck off.
4. Klobuchar has some very serious personality problems, hence why I said Democrat Nixon. She has the paranoia of Nixon, with the temper of Johnson. She doesn't seem very Presidential to me, and might end up doing a Watergate if put in power.

And no, I do not want 4 more years of Trump, I want 4 years of someone like Ralph Nader or Bernie Sanders.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

So what makes four more years of Trump preferable to any of them?

If a politician's only redeeming quality is that "they're not Trump!" then maybe they don't deserve to be the Democratic nominee to begin with.

Honestly, I feel like these people are the people who'll vote for anyone that isn't Trump.

Tony Blair? Sure, why not. He's a "leftist", right...definitely not a war criminal or anything! Richard Spencer? Don''t know who that is, but hey, he's a right-winger that isn't Trump! Augusto Pinochet? He did some amazing things to the Chilean economy and offers free helicopter rides, so why not?

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So what makes four more years of Trump preferable to any of them?

Let's take it down one by one:

1. Biden, quite literally, an accomplice to war crimes. He'd most likely put troops back in Syria and in a lot of other places, leading to tens of thousands or maybe even hundreds of thousands of deaths, perhaps reaching the millions if he started an Iran War.
2. Bloomberg is a walking threat to democracy. He doesn't have the disregard for norms that Trump has, but that's because people like him ARE the system. People who buy their way to political office are not politicians: they are oligarchs. And I do not want an oligarch in the White House.
3. Buttigieg is the least problematic of the bunch, but he still exhibits their disastrous policies and seems to have made a career out of exploiting his background to garner sympathy. As a gay man myself, I would like to sincerely tell him to fuck off.
4. Klobuchar has some very serious personality problems, hence why I said Democrat Nixon. She has the paranoia of Nixon, with the temper of Johnson. She doesn't seem very Presidential to me, and might end up doing a Watergate if put in power.

And no, I do not want 4 more years of Trump, I want 4 years of someone like Ralph Nader or Bernie Sanders.

I award you with a proverbial Reddit Gold for this post.

[Aclion]

Three years ago now we were told "he will not divide us"
I looks like that prediction was as accurate as "he will not get the nomination", or "he will never be president".

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Let's take it down one by one:

1. Biden, quite literally, an accomplice to war crimes. He'd most likely put troops back in Syria and in a lot of other places, leading to tens of thousands or maybe even hundreds of thousands of deaths, perhaps reaching the millions if he started an Iran War.
2. Bloomberg is a walking threat to democracy. He doesn't have the disregard for norms that Trump has, but that's because people like him ARE the system. People who buy their way to political office are not politicians: they are oligarchs. And I do not want an oligarch in the White House.
3. Buttigieg is the least problematic of the bunch, but he still exhibits their disastrous policies and seems to have made a career out of exploiting his background to garner sympathy. As a gay man myself, I would like to sincerely tell him to fuck off.
4. Klobuchar has some very serious personality problems, hence why I said Democrat Nixon. She has the paranoia of Nixon, with the temper of Johnson. She doesn't seem very Presidential to me, and might end up doing a Watergate if put in power.

And no, I do not want 4 more years of Trump, I want 4 years of someone like Ralph Nader or Bernie Sanders.

I award you with a proverbial Reddit Gold for this post.

Thanks, stranger, for the reddit gold!

[Aureumterra]

Three years ago now we were told "he will not divide us"
I looks like that prediction was as accurate as "he will not get the nomination", or "he will never be president".

"Kavanaugh will not get confirmed"
"He will not be acquitted"

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Three years ago now we were told "he will not divide us"
I looks like that prediction was as accurate as "he will not get the nomination", or "he will never be president".

"Kavanaugh will not get confirmed"
"He will not be acquitted"

Who believed either of these things?

[Uiiop]

So what makes four more years of Trump preferable to any of them?

Let's take it down one by one:

1. Biden, quite literally, an accomplice to war crimes. He'd most likely put troops back in Syria and in a lot of other places, leading to tens of thousands or maybe even hundreds of thousands of deaths, perhaps reaching the millions if he started an Iran War.
2. Bloomberg is a walking threat to democracy. He doesn't have the disregard for norms that Trump has, but that's because people like him ARE the system. People who buy their way to political office are not politicians: they are oligarchs. And I do not want an oligarch in the White House.
3. Buttigieg is the least problematic of the bunch, but he still exhibits their disastrous policies and seems to have made a career out of exploiting his background to garner sympathy. As a gay man myself, I would like to sincerely tell him to fuck off.
4. Klobuchar has some very serious personality problems, hence why I said Democrat Nixon. She has the paranoia of Nixon, with the temper of Johnson. She doesn't seem very Presidential to me, and might end up doing a Watergate if put in power.

And no, I do not want 4 more years of Trump, I want 4 years of someone like Ralph Nader or Bernie Sanders.

This sounds like you don't view trump as bad as these people.
Cause that wasn't them asking if you think they sucked and not worthy. They asked if you vote trump over them.

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Let's take it down one by one:

1. Biden, quite literally, an accomplice to war crimes. He'd most likely put troops back in Syria and in a lot of other places, leading to tens of thousands or maybe even hundreds of thousands of deaths, perhaps reaching the millions if he started an Iran War.
2. Bloomberg is a walking threat to democracy. He doesn't have the disregard for norms that Trump has, but that's because people like him ARE the system. People who buy their way to political office are not politicians: they are oligarchs. And I do not want an oligarch in the White House.
3. Buttigieg is the least problematic of the bunch, but he still exhibits their disastrous policies and seems to have made a career out of exploiting his background to garner sympathy. As a gay man myself, I would like to sincerely tell him to fuck off.
4. Klobuchar has some very serious personality problems, hence why I said Democrat Nixon. She has the paranoia of Nixon, with the temper of Johnson. She doesn't seem very Presidential to me, and might end up doing a Watergate if put in power.

And no, I do not want 4 more years of Trump, I want 4 years of someone like Ralph Nader or Bernie Sanders.

This sounds like you don't view trump as bad as these people.
Cause that wasn't them asking if you think they sucked and not worthy. They asked if you vote trump over them.

They just posted a chart in this thread that answered the question, and that chart contained no votes for Trump.

[Gormwood]

"Kavanaugh will not get confirmed"
"He will not be acquitted"

Who believed either of these things?

Probably some imaginary straw Democrat in the vein of Alan Colmes. But hey, any excuse to gloat.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Let's take it down one by one:

1. Biden, quite literally, an accomplice to war crimes. He'd most likely put troops back in Syria and in a lot of other places, leading to tens of thousands or maybe even hundreds of thousands of deaths, perhaps reaching the millions if he started an Iran War.
2. Bloomberg is a walking threat to democracy. He doesn't have the disregard for norms that Trump has, but that's because people like him ARE the system. People who buy their way to political office are not politicians: they are oligarchs. And I do not want an oligarch in the White House.
3. Buttigieg is the least problematic of the bunch, but he still exhibits their disastrous policies and seems to have made a career out of exploiting his background to garner sympathy. As a gay man myself, I would like to sincerely tell him to fuck off.
4. Klobuchar has some very serious personality problems, hence why I said Democrat Nixon. She has the paranoia of Nixon, with the temper of Johnson. She doesn't seem very Presidential to me, and might end up doing a Watergate if put in power.

And no, I do not want 4 more years of Trump, I want 4 years of someone like Ralph Nader or Bernie Sanders.

This sounds like you don't view trump as bad as these people.
Cause that wasn't them asking if you think they sucked and not worthy. They asked if you vote trump over them.

I never said I'd vote Trump. I'd vote for someone else: Stein, Nader, a Sanders Independent run. I would vote for the left-wing candidate.

[Uiiop]

If a politician's only redeeming quality is that "they're not Trump!" then maybe they don't deserve to be the Democratic nominee to begin with.

Honestly, I feel like these people are the people who'll vote for anyone that isn't Trump.

Tony Blair? Sure, why not. He's a "leftist", right...definitely not a war criminal or anything! Richard Spencer? Don''t know who that is, but hey, he's a right-winger that isn't Trump! Augusto Pinochet? He did some amazing things to the Chilean economy and offers free helicopter rides, so why not?

TBH i was dumb enough to prefer Sawinia back in 2017 so this rings an uncomfortable truth.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Honestly, I feel like these people are the people who'll vote for anyone that isn't Trump.

Tony Blair? Sure, why not. He's a "leftist", right...definitely not a war criminal or anything! Richard Spencer? Don''t know who that is, but hey, he's a right-winger that isn't Trump! Augusto Pinochet? He did some amazing things to the Chilean economy and offers free helicopter rides, so why not?

TBH i was dumb enough to prefer Sawinia back in 2017 so this rings an uncomfortable truth.

Who's that?

[Ghost Land]

So what makes four more years of Trump preferable to any of them?

Let's take it down one by one:

1. Biden, quite literally, an accomplice to war crimes. He'd most likely put troops back in Syria and in a lot of other places, leading to tens of thousands or maybe even hundreds of thousands of deaths, perhaps reaching the millions if he started an Iran War.
2. Bloomberg is a walking threat to democracy. He doesn't have the disregard for norms that Trump has, but that's because people like him ARE the system. People who buy their way to political office are not politicians: they are oligarchs. And I do not want an oligarch in the White House.
3. Buttigieg is the least problematic of the bunch, but he still exhibits their disastrous policies and seems to have made a career out of exploiting his background to garner sympathy. As a gay man myself, I would like to sincerely tell him to fuck off.
4. Klobuchar has some very serious personality problems, hence why I said Democrat Nixon. She has the paranoia of Nixon, with the temper of Johnson. She doesn't seem very Presidential to me, and might end up doing a Watergate if put in power.

And no, I do not want 4 more years of Trump, I want 4 years of someone like Ralph Nader or Bernie Sanders.

Thankfully someone else sees the Bloomberg campaign the same way I do. His entire campaign is pretty much based on "screw Trump", which is beyond hypocritical because he's also a rich (and, for what it's worth, elderly) businessman, and he's outright corrupt, buying himself and his party power.

I'd vote Trump over anyone else in the field right now, and that's whom I'm voting for unless a Ross Perot-like third-party candidate comes around who actually has a chance and whom I like better.

[Uiiop]

This sounds like you don't view trump as bad as these people.
Cause that wasn't them asking if you think they sucked and not worthy. They asked if you vote trump over them.

I never said I'd vote Trump. I'd vote for someone else: Stein, Nader, a Sanders Independent run. I would vote for the left-wing candidate.

Just making it clear for other posters.
I'd already figured it was the case and actually agree with your chart other than not seeing where Amy's Nixon just yet.

[Gormwood]

Let's take it down one by one:

1. Biden, quite literally, an accomplice to war crimes. He'd most likely put troops back in Syria and in a lot of other places, leading to tens of thousands or maybe even hundreds of thousands of deaths, perhaps reaching the millions if he started an Iran War.
2. Bloomberg is a walking threat to democracy. He doesn't have the disregard for norms that Trump has, but that's because people like him ARE the system. People who buy their way to political office are not politicians: they are oligarchs. And I do not want an oligarch in the White House.
3. Buttigieg is the least problematic of the bunch, but he still exhibits their disastrous policies and seems to have made a career out of exploiting his background to garner sympathy. As a gay man myself, I would like to sincerely tell him to fuck off.
4. Klobuchar has some very serious personality problems, hence why I said Democrat Nixon. She has the paranoia of Nixon, with the temper of Johnson. She doesn't seem very Presidential to me, and might end up doing a Watergate if put in power.

And no, I do not want 4 more years of Trump, I want 4 years of someone like Ralph Nader or Bernie Sanders.

Thankfully someone else sees the Bloomberg campaign the same way I do. His entire campaign is pretty much based on "screw Trump", which is beyond hypocritical because he's also a rich (and, for what it's worth, elderly) businessman, and he's outright corrupt, buying himself and his party power.

I'd vote Trump over anyone else in the field right now, and that's whom I'm voting for unless a Ross Perot-like third-party candidate comes around who actually has a chance and whom I like better.

Talk about cutting off the nose to spite the face. Or burning down a house to get rid of the wasp nest.

[Uiiop]

TBH i was dumb enough to prefer Sawinia back in 2017 so this rings an uncomfortable truth.

Who's that?

A white supremacist NSGer.

Yeah i really bought into the Never Trumper's spiel(Which he was for a bit) for a while

[Kowani]

So what makes four more years of Trump preferable to any of them?

Let's take it down one by one:

1. Biden, quite literally, an accomplice to war crimes. He'd most likely put troops back in Syria and in a lot of other places, leading to tens of thousands or maybe even hundreds of thousands of deaths, perhaps reaching the millions if he started an Iran War.
2. Bloomberg is a walking threat to democracy. He doesn't have the disregard for norms that Trump has, but that's because people like him ARE the system. People who buy their way to political office are not politicians: they are oligarchs. And I do not want an oligarch in the White House.
3. Buttigieg is the least problematic of the bunch, but he still exhibits their disastrous policies and seems to have made a career out of exploiting his background to garner sympathy. As a gay man myself, I would like to sincerely tell him to fuck off.
4. Klobuchar has some very serious personality problems, hence why I said Democrat Nixon. She has the paranoia of Nixon, with the temper of Johnson. She doesn't seem very Presidential to me, and might end up doing a Watergate if put in power.

And no, I do not want 4 more years of Trump, I want 4 years of someone like Ralph Nader or Bernie Sanders.

Well, this is on point.

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Let's take it down one by one:

1. Biden, quite literally, an accomplice to war crimes. He'd most likely put troops back in Syria and in a lot of other places, leading to tens of thousands or maybe even hundreds of thousands of deaths, perhaps reaching the millions if he started an Iran War.
2. Bloomberg is a walking threat to democracy. He doesn't have the disregard for norms that Trump has, but that's because people like him ARE the system. People who buy their way to political office are not politicians: they are oligarchs. And I do not want an oligarch in the White House.
3. Buttigieg is the least problematic of the bunch, but he still exhibits their disastrous policies and seems to have made a career out of exploiting his background to garner sympathy. As a gay man myself, I would like to sincerely tell him to fuck off.
4. Klobuchar has some very serious personality problems, hence why I said Democrat Nixon. She has the paranoia of Nixon, with the temper of Johnson. She doesn't seem very Presidential to me, and might end up doing a Watergate if put in power.

And no, I do not want 4 more years of Trump, I want 4 years of someone like Ralph Nader or Bernie Sanders.

Thankfully someone else sees the Bloomberg campaign the same way I do. His entire campaign is pretty much based on "screw Trump", which is beyond hypocritical because he's also a rich (and, for what it's worth, elderly) businessman, and he's outright corrupt, buying himself and his party power.

I'd vote Trump over anyone else in the field right now, and that's whom I'm voting for unless a Ross Perot-like third-party candidate comes around who actually has a chance and whom I like better.

Bloomberg: Elect me, an entitled, self-righteous, authoritarian billionaire who is completely out of touch with the American people so that we can get the entitled, self-righteous, authoritarian billionaire who is completely out of touch with the American people out of the White House.

If I had someone forcing me to vote at gunpoint and the third party candidates were Bill Cosby and Richard Spencer, I'd let them shoot me.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

This sounds like you don't view trump as bad as these people.
Cause that wasn't them asking if you think they sucked and not worthy. They asked if you vote trump over them.

They just posted a chart in this thread that answered the question, and that chart contained no votes for Trump.

This^

This is the biggest problem with being a libertarian socialist, or even a(n) (actual) socialist at all, in the modern political world.

"I don't like Clinton/Biden"

"Would you at least vote for them against Trump?"

"No, I want Stein/Hawking instead."

"TRUMP VOTER! FAR-RIGHT! RACIST!"

"I'm farther left-"

"MISOGYNIST! XENOPHOBE!"

"I'm literally a communist-"

"ANTI-MEXICAN! ALT-RIGHT!"

Sighs and walks out

I'm sure every leftist has had this conversation with someone before. I'm sure.

[Uiiop]

Let's take it down one by one:

1. Biden, quite literally, an accomplice to war crimes. He'd most likely put troops back in Syria and in a lot of other places, leading to tens of thousands or maybe even hundreds of thousands of deaths, perhaps reaching the millions if he started an Iran War.
2. Bloomberg is a walking threat to democracy. He doesn't have the disregard for norms that Trump has, but that's because people like him ARE the system. People who buy their way to political office are not politicians: they are oligarchs. And I do not want an oligarch in the White House.
3. Buttigieg is the least problematic of the bunch, but he still exhibits their disastrous policies and seems to have made a career out of exploiting his background to garner sympathy. As a gay man myself, I would like to sincerely tell him to fuck off.
4. Klobuchar has some very serious personality problems, hence why I said Democrat Nixon. She has the paranoia of Nixon, with the temper of Johnson. She doesn't seem very Presidential to me, and might end up doing a Watergate if put in power.

And no, I do not want 4 more years of Trump, I want 4 years of someone like Ralph Nader or Bernie Sanders.

Thankfully someone else sees the Bloomberg campaign the same way I do. His entire campaign is pretty much based on "screw Trump", which is beyond hypocritical because he's also a rich (and, for what it's worth, elderly) businessman, and he's outright corrupt, buying himself and his party power.

I'd vote Trump over anyone else in the field right now, and that's whom I'm voting for unless a Ross Perot-like third-party candidate comes around who actually has a chance and whom I like better.

If ya went out and looked mostly everyone agrees with you. So at least there is that.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Thankfully someone else sees the Bloomberg campaign the same way I do. His entire campaign is pretty much based on "screw Trump", which is beyond hypocritical because he's also a rich (and, for what it's worth, elderly) businessman, and he's outright corrupt, buying himself and his party power.

I'd vote Trump over anyone else in the field right now, and that's whom I'm voting for unless a Ross Perot-like third-party candidate comes around who actually has a chance and whom I like better.

Bloomberg: Elect me, an entitled, self-righteous, authoritarian billionaire who is completely out of touch with the American people so that we can get the entitled, self-righteous, authoritarian billionaire who is completely out of touch with the American people out of the White House.

If I had someone forcing me to vote at gunpoint and the third party candidates were Bill Cosby and Richard Spencer, I'd let them shoot me.

Fuck it, I'd vote Bill Cosby. All three of them (Bloomberg, Trump and Cosby) are probably paedophiles anyway, so might as well pick the left-wing paedophile.

[Uiiop]

Bloomberg: Elect me, an entitled, self-righteous, authoritarian billionaire who is completely out of touch with the American people so that we can get the entitled, self-righteous, authoritarian billionaire who is completely out of touch with the American people out of the White House.

If I had someone forcing me to vote at gunpoint and the third party candidates were Bill Cosby and Richard Spencer, I'd let them shoot me.

Fuck it, I'd vote Bill Cosby. All three of them (Bloomberg, Trump and Cosby) are probably paedophiles anyway, so might as well pick the left-wing paedophile.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cosb ... ical_views
He ain't it chief.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Fuck it, I'd vote Bill Cosby. All three of them (Bloomberg, Trump and Cosby) are probably paedophiles anyway, so might as well pick the left-wing paedophile.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cosb ... ical_views
He ain't it chief.

"Cosby has also been vocally critical of conservative Republican politicians in regard to their views on socioeconomic and racial issues. In a 2013 CNN interview regarding voting rights, Cosby stated "this Republican Party is not the Republican Party of 1863, of Abraham Lincoln, abolitionists and slavery, is not good. I think it's important for us to look at the underlying part of it. What is the value of it? Is it that some people are angry because my people no longer want to work for free?"

He's not the most left-wing of left-wingers, and is probably a little classist, but that's still better than all the other options.

[Union of east allemagne]

I feel that trump will win as I feel that Americans want someone who will keep the economy great plus if you look at California's idiotic business policies why would you not vote trump?