"I love socialists too. I've slept with several" - Joy Behar

[Rojava Free State]

Well then it stands as is. I, and many other people, do not find lizzo's body type attractive, and there's a reason for that. If you do then you do you, but I don't need to change my opinion so people don't get their feelings hurt. Obesity is gross. It's unhealthy and dangerous and there's a reason most people feel that way

Like Lizzo would know you even existed, much less give a shit. She's famous and rich without having to conform to your puritannical body image and at best you'd be just another internet nobody hiding behind GIFT to take shots at her.

First off I don't care how lizzo feels. Whether anything I said had any affect on her isn't my problem. Clearly you gave a shit since you called me out for "fat shaming," cause how dare I not find extreme obesity to be attractive. And my views aren't puritannical. I'm not saying we all should look like supermodels but there's a point where your body is legit gonna collapse on itself

And believe me, if I'm just some internet nobody then you aren't doing any better, so let's just clear the air on that right now.

[Gormwood]

Like Lizzo would know you even existed, much less give a shit. She's famous and rich without having to conform to your puritannical body image and at best you'd be just another internet nobody hiding behind GIFT to take shots at her.

First off I don't care how lizzo feels. Whether anything I said had any affect on her isn't my problem. Clearly you gave a shit since you called me out for "fat shaming," cause how dare I not find extreme obesity to be attractive. And my views aren't puritannical. I'm not saying we all should look like supermodels but there's a point where your body is legit gonna collapse on itself

And believe me, if I'm just some internet nobody then you aren't doing any better, so let's just clear the air on that right now.

Because if you do it to famous people without hesitation, you'll be guaranteed to do it to ordinary people who are likely more vulnerable emotionally if not financially.

[Rojava Free State]

First off I don't care how lizzo feels. Whether anything I said had any affect on her isn't my problem. Clearly you gave a shit since you called me out for "fat shaming," cause how dare I not find extreme obesity to be attractive. And my views aren't puritannical. I'm not saying we all should look like supermodels but there's a point where your body is legit gonna collapse on itself

And believe me, if I'm just some internet nobody then you aren't doing any better, so let's just clear the air on that right now.

Because if you do it to famous people without hesitation, you'll be guaranteed to do it to ordinary people who are likely more vulnerable emotionally if not financially.

Yeah, because I made a joke about lizzo, I totally am gonna walk into a restroom and see a fat guy and be like "GET OUT OF HERE YOU FAT BITCH!" seriously do you even hear yourself right now? I make one joke and you literally got mad about fat shaming to a point that not only have you continued to try and portray me as a bigot, but you continued the argument in a totally unrelated thread. I'll make this easy on you, partially because I'm not a total troll and partially because this thread is 5 seconds from being locked due to a thread jacking. If you think that my views are so horrible, you are more than free to add me to your foe list and view me as an evil horrible person. You don't have to like me, but I'm not about to continue arguing with you considering that neither your views nor mine will change on this subject. So what's it gonna be? You wanna keep arguing or you wanna accept that you're not about to change my mind

[Ethel mermania]

IDK, you might, considering that the thread's probably gonna close in 1 or 2 pages.

Cherish that fact Huskar.

This is my moment.

Now is the time

Now is the time for Happy Huskar.

Yeah, you got a few pretty good lines in. I was amused.

[Ethel mermania]

First off I don't care how lizzo feels. Whether anything I said had any affect on her isn't my problem. Clearly you gave a shit since you called me out for "fat shaming," cause how dare I not find extreme obesity to be attractive. And my views aren't puritannical. I'm not saying we all should look like supermodels but there's a point where your body is legit gonna collapse on itself

And believe me, if I'm just some internet nobody then you aren't doing any better, so let's just clear the air on that right now.

Because if you do it to famous people without hesitation, you'll be guaranteed to do it to ordinary people who are likely more vulnerable emotionally if not financially.

I am more on Jillian Michaels side on this, obesity is not healthy, and while I dont generally fat shame, long term lizzo would be much better off if she dropped a few pounds.

Also I would hope people would be much more likely to make a comment about a public figure than a private one.

[United Muscovite Nations]

First off I don't care how lizzo feels. Whether anything I said had any affect on her isn't my problem. Clearly you gave a shit since you called me out for "fat shaming," cause how dare I not find extreme obesity to be attractive. And my views aren't puritannical. I'm not saying we all should look like supermodels but there's a point where your body is legit gonna collapse on itself

And believe me, if I'm just some internet nobody then you aren't doing any better, so let's just clear the air on that right now.

Because if you do it to famous people without hesitation, you'll be guaranteed to do it to ordinary people who are likely more vulnerable emotionally if not financially.

Being fat isn't an unavoidable medical condition, it is a result of personal choices.

[Rojava Free State]

Because if you do it to famous people without hesitation, you'll be guaranteed to do it to ordinary people who are likely more vulnerable emotionally if not financially.

Being fat isn't an unavoidable medical condition, it is a result of personal choices.

As someone who has struggled with their weight since my teen years and who has overweight family members, I can confirm this is true. This year has really been my fight against the fat, and I've totally changed my diet and become a much more active person. Before I started exercising more, I was 173 pounds. I'm now 162. Yes,I know I technically wasn't really super fat ever but that's not the issue

You should do what's in your health's best interest. Being fat isn't like having acne, which is just a superficial unattractive feature. It's genuinely dangerous. When people tell overweight people that they're fine as is and don't need to change, they're condemning said overweight person to a death sentence. I will say that of course you shouldn't go up to someone and say "man you look like jabba the hutt. Why you built like a zepplin?" But it isn't wrong to say "Look Marco,I like you, but you have a problem, and if you don't solve the problem, it will solve you." When he asks you what "it will solve you" means, ask him to think about what solving something usually means. You either lose most of the fat and become a healthier person, or keep doing what you're doing and perish. A good example of a similar issue is my friend Josh and his binge drinking. Our big albanian friend thinks it's funny and keeps encouraging this kind of degenerate behavior,whereas i have told him that drinking is ruining him and turning him into a real dick. I've told him it could kill him. My goal of bringing this up is to convince him to put down the bottle at least 5 days a week, because I don't want to lose my best friend to substance abuse like I lost 8 others to. Fake friends tell you what you wanna hear, even if that'll harm you. Real friends tell you what you need to hear even if you may not like it

[Gormwood]

Because if you do it to famous people without hesitation, you'll be guaranteed to do it to ordinary people who are likely more vulnerable emotionally if not financially.

Being fat isn't an unavoidable medical condition, it is a result of personal choices.

Assuming every single overweight person in existence is a result of laziness and not say, socio-economic entrapment or medical conditions. Sure.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Being fat isn't an unavoidable medical condition, it is a result of personal choices.

Assuming every single overweight person in existence is a result of laziness and not say, socio-economic entrapment or medical conditions. Sure.

There are medical treatments for conditions that cause it, and even the poor are capable of not being fat. The poor have free will.

[Gormwood]

Assuming every single overweight person in existence is a result of laziness and not say, socio-economic entrapment or medical conditions. Sure.

There are medical treatments for conditions that cause it, and even the poor are capable of not being fat. The poor have free will.

Even if they're too poor to afford reliable transportation while trapped in a food desert surrounded by SSF farms in the form of fast food joints and convenience stores apparently. And if you're poor, good luck with medical treatments.

[United Muscovite Nations]

There are medical treatments for conditions that cause it, and even the poor are capable of not being fat. The poor have free will.

Even if they're too poor to afford reliable transportation while trapped in a food desert surrounded by SSF farms in the form of fast food joints and convenience stores apparently. And if you're poor, good luck with medical treatments.

Not like wal-mart exists and sells reasonably healthy food at extremely affordable prices or anything.

The medical treatment thing is fair enough, but it's also an extreme minority of obese people.

[Purgatio]

There are medical treatments for conditions that cause it, and even the poor are capable of not being fat. The poor have free will.

Even if they're too poor to afford reliable transportation while trapped in a food desert surrounded by SSF farms in the form of fast food joints and convenience stores apparently. And if you're poor, good luck with medical treatments.

Even if there isn't a lot of healthy food around you, you can always eat less and reduce your calorie intake overall. I hate how so many people are trying to make absurd excuses for the ridiculous rates of obesity amongst the poors.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Even if they're too poor to afford reliable transportation while trapped in a food desert surrounded by SSF farms in the form of fast food joints and convenience stores apparently. And if you're poor, good luck with medical treatments.

Even if there isn't a lot of healthy food around you, you can always eat less and reduce your calorie intake overall. I hate how so many people are trying to make absurd excuses for the ridiculous rates of obesity amongst the poors.

Experts point to malnutrition and obesity occuring at the same time in the same people, on account of filling but less-nourishing food being all they can afford. Do you think you know better than them? If so, don't fuck around with it, say it outright, like I do whenever I'm the one disputing them.

Coming back full circle to the original topic, I think this also incidentally relates to why obesity cuts down on respect for someone, but not necessarily on lust for them. For much of evolution, without junk food, obesity would've meant you ate more than your share of the food, not that you were malnourished. So contempt for the overweight would be advantageous to a tribe. However, the male sex drive isn't known to be very picky, so our ancestors would impregnate even those they don't necessarily respect as much as everyone else until they give birth to someone at least half like us. This would explain the simultaneous popularity of cheap shots about Meghan McCain's weight and, again, the popularity of the aforementioned portrayals of women with very similar body types.

[The Flying Hand]

In cases like this, is "thottimus maximus" an acceptable term for politicians?

[Saranidia]

I don't see many Incels wanting to be with Joy Behar. Then again, if someone closes their eyes; it might not be such a big deal. I don't know why it is, but the Conservative women on average, seem to be more physically attractive than the Liberal women within US media. It is true enough to be a stereotype and meme.

The conservative women tend to take better care of themselves and value their looks while liberals view attractive appearance as a patriarchal form of oppression

Maybe, idk, it's my best guess as to why that is

Well I read somewhere conservatives are more likely to be older and obese. Also the opioid crisis is, I believe more common in republican states.
Also please stop with the sweeping statements;
Since when did most liberals view attractive appearance as patriarchal oppression?
Google what liberal means or alternatively take a good look at Ana Kasparian that nice temptress from Young Turks.

[Bostoknia]

Well then it stands as is. I, and many other people, do not find lizzo's body type attractive, and there's a reason for that. If you do then you do you, but I don't need to change my opinion so people don't get their feelings hurt. Obesity is gross. It's unhealthy and dangerous and there's a reason most people feel that way

Like Lizzo would know you even existed, much less give a shit. She's famous and rich without having to conform to your puritannical body image and at best you'd be just another internet nobody hiding behind GIFT to take shots at her.

I take issue with your phrasing "puritanical body image". Not getting an erection over a fat chick is hardly puritanical.

[Saranidia]

What a harlot

[The Flying Hand]

What a harlot

I know right, when can the capitalists get some lovin'? Do we need to pay?

[Purgatio]

Even if there isn't a lot of healthy food around you, you can always eat less and reduce your calorie intake overall. I hate how so many people are trying to make absurd excuses for the ridiculous rates of obesity amongst the poors.

Experts point to malnutrition and obesity occuring at the same time in the same people, on account of filling but less-nourishing food being all they can afford. Do you think you know better than them? If so, don't fuck around with it, say it outright, like I do whenever I'm the one disputing them.

I don't get why nuance is so difficult. Ceteris paribus, a person who lives in a food desert with unhealthy food options around him is likely to be more obese than if that same person were not in a food desert. Again, ceteris paribus, with no difference or change in food intake habits or other lifestyle choices.

But that doesn't mean that if you do live in a food desert, you are totally disabled from being healthy. Not every single poor person is obese or unhealthy. There's always more you can do to keep healthy. Even if the food around you is unhealthy, you can still eat less of it, engage in proper portion control, exercise more. Yes, you have to put in more effort than if you lived in a place that wasn't a food desert, but so what? Life's not fair, and someone who isn't willing to put in the effort to stay healthy and take care of themselves, and who gets fat as a result, voluntarily accepts and invites any and all negative health consequences that go along with that.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

What a harlot

I know right, when can the capitalists get some lovin'? Do we need to pay?

Child support law is already pretty capitalistic when you think about it. Instead of pooling the resources by paying into a collective child support pool when you have sex, and drawing from it if you need it, the few guys whose condoms break have to end up in dire poverty and everyone else doesn't have to do a thing to help them.

[Purgatio]

I know right, when can the capitalists get some lovin'? Do we need to pay?

Child support law is already pretty capitalistic when you think about it. Instead of pooling the resources by paying into a collective child support pool when you have sex, and drawing from it if you need it, the few guys whose condoms break have to end up in dire poverty and everyone else doesn't have to do a thing to help them.

Well, yes, child support is inherently capitalist rather than socalistic. Socialism stresses generic financial obligations owed to the wider community. Child support is based on vindicating the duties and obligations that go with a private interpersonal or familial relationship (i.e., a parent-child relationship), and the obligations of support and non-abandonment that go along with that relationship. Similar to alimony and spousal support, its a capitalistic and inherently-private obligation of support, not a communal or socialistic one.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Experts point to malnutrition and obesity occuring at the same time in the same people, on account of filling but less-nourishing food being all they can afford. Do you think you know better than them? If so, don't fuck around with it, say it outright, like I do whenever I'm the one disputing them.

I don't get why nuance is so difficult. Ceteris paribus, a person who lives in a food desert with unhealthy food options around him is likely to be more obese than if that same person were not in a food desert. Again, ceteris paribus, with no difference or change in food intake habits or other lifestyle choices.

But that doesn't mean that if you do live in a food desert, you are totally disabled from being healthy. Not every single poor person is obese or unhealthy. There's always more you can do to keep healthy. Even if the food around you is unhealthy, you can still eat less of it, engage in proper portion control, exercise more. Yes, you have to put in more effort than if you lived in a place that wasn't a food desert, but so what? Life's not fair, and someone who isn't willing to put in the effort to stay healthy and take care of themselves, and who gets fat as a result, voluntarily accepts and invites any and all negative health consequences that go along with that.

Emphasis mine. That's not how it works. You eat less of the unhealthy food, you get even LESS of your vitamins and minerals, and you're MORE severely malnourished. It's a choice between obesity, malnutrition, or BOTH.

And "exercise" needs more vitamins and minerals than a lack thereof too, lest one get oxygen free radical damage from lack of antioxidants.

[Saranidia]

I know right, when can the capitalists get some lovin'? Do we need to pay?

Child support law is already pretty capitalistic when you think about it. Instead of pooling the resources by paying into a collective child support pool when you have sex, and drawing from it if you need it, the few guys whose condoms break have to end up in dire poverty and everyone else doesn't have to do a thing to help them.

I doubt most people who have children it’s the result of condoms breaking.
Condoms are 98% reliable.
Also many people wish to at some point have children.

[Gormwood]

Child support law is already pretty capitalistic when you think about it. Instead of pooling the resources by paying into a collective child support pool when you have sex, and drawing from it if you need it, the few guys whose condoms break have to end up in dire poverty and everyone else doesn't have to do a thing to help them.

Well, yes, child support is inherently capitalist rather than socalistic. Socialism stresses generic financial obligations owed to the wider community. Child support is based on vindicating the duties and obligations that go with a private interpersonal or familial relationship (i.e., a parent-child relationship), and the obligations of support and non-abandonment that go along with that relationship. Similar to alimony and spousal support, its a capitalistic and inherently-private obligation of support, not a communal or socialistic one.

Unwanted pregnancies most prevalent in states with near-nonexistent sex education in schools. Pure coincidence.

[Saranidia]

What a harlot

I know right, when can the capitalists get some lovin'? Do we need to pay?

If anything being with even more people would make her a bigger harlot.
But she probably would if you paid for a meal.

Also on a more serious note are you social democracy, moderate capitalism or Randist style?