Sectioning someone is a thing.
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by The New California Republic » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:04 pm
by Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:05 pm
by Imperial Joseon » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:06 pm
Vassenor wrote:So, how does it feel to have considerably less influence on global politics than we did five years ago?
by The New California Republic » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:07 pm
by Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:09 pm
The New California Republic wrote:Greater vakolicci haven wrote:And is something I've always disagreed with due to the implications for personal autonomy.
If someone is not in their right mind, and it plays into a horrible feedback loop where they lose their benefits and subsequently starve to death as a result, then sectioning absolutely is the right thing to do.
by Imperial Joseon » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:10 pm
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:The New California Republic wrote:If someone is not in their right mind, and it plays into a horrible feedback loop where they lose their benefits and subsequently starve to death as a result, then sectioning absolutely is the right thing to do.
Of course it isn't. If somebody no longer wishes to live etc, he should not be forced to do so.
by Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:11 pm
by The New California Republic » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:11 pm
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:The New California Republic wrote:If someone is not in their right mind, and it plays into a horrible feedback loop where they lose their benefits and subsequently starve to death as a result, then sectioning absolutely is the right thing to do.
Of course it isn't. If somebody no longer wishes to live etc, he should not be forced to do so.
by Imperial Joseon » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:13 pm
by Albennia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:13 pm
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:The New California Republic wrote:If someone is not in their right mind, and it plays into a horrible feedback loop where they lose their benefits and subsequently starve to death as a result, then sectioning absolutely is the right thing to do.
Of course it isn't. If somebody no longer wishes to live etc, he should not be forced to do so.
by Bienenhalde » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:20 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Souseiseki wrote:
brexit is a globalist project
did you literally just miss the government going on and on about how they can't wait to strike all these cool new trade deals, open up the markets and maybe even become the singapore of europe
Economically that might be desirable in many ways tbh.
Singapores government owns all the land, and allocates the housing to citizens if they don't have one, producing a 90% home owner rate. Its schools are vigorously meritocratic and they've got laws to pressure private schools into being mostly public ones for bright students, with only a minority being paid placements.
Adults get free education and funds are set aside for them to train with.
They frequently do automatic "Quality of life" consumer good deposits. This year the government decided everyone needs a HD Digital TV, and so everyone got a voucher specifically for this purpose which the government promised companies they would exchange for money. (This is controversial, as some people allege it's crony capitalism and often the consumer goods the government up and decides everyone needs lines up pretty suspiciously with financial interests in bed with the government, however, imo, it's a step above our current "We'll give them money, and you get literally nothing" system. At least in Singapore, they get a free high quality tv. Applying it here it'd be like; "Oh, we're going to hire private security for every street corner now I guess. Also, suddenly, the trains are free. Just don't look too hard at the corporate subsidies this entails.", which doesn't sound too bad.)
None of this is means tested either.
I sorely doubt our government wants to actually be Singapore.
by Imperial Joseon » Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:21 pm
by The Blaatschapen » Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:10 pm
by Albennia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:24 pm
by The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:39 pm
by Purgatio » Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:40 pm
Albennia wrote:Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Of course it isn't. If somebody no longer wishes to live etc, he should not be forced to do so.
He starved to death jesus christGreater vakolicci haven wrote:Sadly we don't have that in Britain. It's obviously legal to kill yourself though, because what are they going to do to stop you.
Fortunately we don't have that in Britain.
by Fartsniffage » Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:41 pm
by The New California Republic » Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:41 pm
Purgatio wrote:
Why fortunate? What on Earth's wrong with voluntary euthanasia, as long as its consensual and not under duress or undue influence? Why is it any of your business to force someone to stay alive against their will?
by Albennia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:42 pm
Purgatio wrote:
Why fortunate? What on Earth's wrong with voluntary euthanasia, as long as its consensual and not under duress or undue influence? Why is it any of your business to force someone to stay alive against their will?
by Albennia » Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:43 pm
Fartsniffage wrote:Albennia wrote:Euthanasia is bad, and, as seen in the Netherlands, leads to outright murder.
If you think it doesn't already happen in the UK then I've got a bridge to sell you.
I know for a fact that a nurse euthanised my uncle. And there was no legal system in place to make sure it was the right decision. Just a brief conversation with my father and other uncle then a quick fiddle with the morphine machine. Dead less than an hour later.
Keep it illegal just pushes it into the shadows putting patients at risk of abuse and medical staff at risk when they do the right thing.
by Samudera Darussalam » Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:44 pm
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