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by Northeast American Federation » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:27 pm
by Outer Sparta » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:29 pm
by Torisakia » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:29 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Torisakia wrote:I mean I've lived there my entire life so I think that gives me a good bit of credibility.
There are places worse than America out there. I live in murder city, I mean motor city, and while it's absolute shit here, I would rather be here than in North Korea or the Congo
[TNN] A cargo ship belonging to Torisakia disappeared off the coast of Kostane late Wednesday evening. TBI suspects foul play. || Congress passes a T$10 billion aid package for the Democratic Populist rebels in Kostane. To include firearms, vehicles, and artillery.
by Rojava Free State » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:02 pm
Torisakia wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
There are places worse than America out there. I live in murder city, I mean motor city, and while it's absolute shit here, I would rather be here than in North Korea or the Congo
I disagree but we'll leave it for a different topic. I just believe that the "land of the free" moniker the US uses should have an asterisk by it.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Outer Sparta » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:07 pm
by Aclion » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:34 pm
by Rojava Free State » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:43 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Torisakia » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:50 pm
[TNN] A cargo ship belonging to Torisakia disappeared off the coast of Kostane late Wednesday evening. TBI suspects foul play. || Congress passes a T$10 billion aid package for the Democratic Populist rebels in Kostane. To include firearms, vehicles, and artillery.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:55 pm
Skyhooked wrote:Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:That would be Anarchism, as there would be neither Law nor Order and no one to enforce either. It'd be fucking chaos. Because despite what Anarchists might believe, there is no difference between Anarchism and Anarchy. They are one in the same.
Anarchy and anarchism ain't chaos, those are different thingies. Besides... total chaos has too short half life period and little to no means to maximize misery. And since there ain't no enforcement, nothing will prevent people from creating an awesome anarcho-commune or a new developed country with fair and just laws.
And people don't like to live in misery, and will go forth and fix it with all tools avaliable. So there must be a power of some sort to keep them in this dark state.
by Rojava Free State » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:43 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Skyhooked wrote:
Anarchy and anarchism ain't chaos, those are different thingies. Besides... total chaos has too short half life period and little to no means to maximize misery. And since there ain't no enforcement, nothing will prevent people from creating an awesome anarcho-commune or a new developed country with fair and just laws.
And people don't like to live in misery, and will go forth and fix it with all tools avaliable. So there must be a power of some sort to keep them in this dark state.
No. What would happen is the rise of armed gangs utilizing violence to control others. Of course something better will inevitably follow this period of gang warfare and violence, but it won't happen over night. Following the complete obliteration of law and order society will descend into chaos, which will be quelled not through reason and good-will but through force and violence, and led to the rise of armed groups utilizing whatever means necessary to remain in power. Fear, enslavement, intimidation, mass murder, etc. It will quite literally be post-apocalyptic. We see this in warzones and unstable countries all the time.
Because that's what happens when law and order become defunct and there is no one to enforce either. Society collapses, and if you ask me the collapse of society leads to mass suffering for everyone involved - even those with power in this new lawless world.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:43 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
No. What would happen is the rise of armed gangs utilizing violence to control others. Of course something better will inevitably follow this period of gang warfare and violence, but it won't happen over night. Following the complete obliteration of law and order society will descend into chaos, which will be quelled not through reason and good-will but through force and violence, and led to the rise of armed groups utilizing whatever means necessary to remain in power. Fear, enslavement, intimidation, mass murder, etc. It will quite literally be post-apocalyptic. We see this in warzones and unstable countries all the time.
Because that's what happens when law and order become defunct and there is no one to enforce either. Society collapses, and if you ask me the collapse of society leads to mass suffering for everyone involved - even those with power in this new lawless world.
I'm pretty sure anarchists believe in a setup akin to a city state, like towns run by citizen councils. I'm not saying things would be perfect or even good, but I think the only person who ever advocated for complete lack of governance of any kind was GG Allin, and that was so he could rape and kill whoever he wanted.
by Rojava Free State » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:44 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Rojava Free State » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:46 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
I'm pretty sure anarchists believe in a setup akin to a city state, like towns run by citizen councils. I'm not saying things would be perfect or even good, but I think the only person who ever advocated for complete lack of governance of any kind was GG Allin, and that was so he could rape and kill whoever he wanted.
I don't know who that is and based off that description alone I don't think I want to, either.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Pacomia » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:46 pm
by Rojava Free State » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:47 pm
Pacomia wrote:Torisakia wrote:I mean I wouldn't mind it honestly. Probably have a better time than I am now.
Because everyone knows that the United States is an incredibly underdeveloped nation where the average person is starving and living in constant fear of death at the hand of war, totalitarian governments, or untreated disease.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Pacomia » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:48 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Pacomia wrote:Because everyone knows that the United States is an incredibly underdeveloped nation where the average person is starving and living in constant fear of death at the hand of war, totalitarian governments, or untreated disease.
I'm not gonna lie man, people do die in wars here, like in Chicago every year.
But Jesus Christ that's not like the Syrian civil war, and nothing totalitarian about America compares to what chairman Kim is doing
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:49 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:I would rather die than live in North Korea
Pacomia wrote:Torisakia wrote:I mean I wouldn't mind it honestly. Probably have a better time than I am now.
Because everyone knows that the United States is an incredibly underdeveloped nation where the average person is starving and living in constant fear of death at the hand of war, totalitarian governments, or untreated disease.
by Pacomia » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:50 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:I would rather die than live in North Korea
Deffo gotta agree here. Death is preferable to slavery.Pacomia wrote:Because everyone knows that the United States is an incredibly underdeveloped nation where the average person is starving and living in constant fear of death at the hand of war, totalitarian governments, or untreated disease.
Wait, you mean it isn't!? Whew, and here I was worried a roving band of militiamen were going to flood my village and kill, rape, and enslave everyone in it!
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:51 pm
Rojava Free State wrote:Pacomia wrote:Because everyone knows that the United States is an incredibly underdeveloped nation where the average person is starving and living in constant fear of death at the hand of war, totalitarian governments, or untreated disease.
I'm not gonna lie man, people do die in wars here, like in Chicago every year.
But Jesus Christ that's not like the Syrian civil war, and nothing totalitarian about America compares to what chairman Kim is doing
by Rojava Free State » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:55 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
I'm not gonna lie man, people do die in wars here, like in Chicago every year.
But Jesus Christ that's not like the Syrian civil war, and nothing totalitarian about America compares to what chairman Kim is doing
Forget Kim, Chairman Xi is waging a literal genocide as we speak. Another country not worth living in.Pacomia wrote:We don't talk about the Great Lakes region.
Hey, there's nothing wrong with Indiana. All we have there is corn, okay?
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Kowani » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:02 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
I'm not gonna lie man, people do die in wars here, like in Chicago every year.
But Jesus Christ that's not like the Syrian civil war, and nothing totalitarian about America compares to what chairman Kim is doing
Forget Kim, Chairman Xi is waging a literal genocide as we speak. Another country not worth living in.Pacomia wrote:We don't talk about the Great Lakes region.
Hey, there's nothing wrong with Indiana. All we have there is corn, okay?
by Nuroblav » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:51 am
Grenartia wrote:Somebody watches Jreg.
by Vivolkha » Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:08 am
by Auze » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:49 am
Vivolkha wrote:North Korea still has some of the "benefits" of a communist system, including near universal literacy and a decent healthcare system for a country with such miserable resources.
This does not compensate, at all, for the many, many crimes against humanity committed in the country. It's just that we could, technically, be even worse. For example, add in Venezuelan-levels of violence and lawlessness, a collapsed economy, and Turkmenistan or Equatorial Guinea-levels of corruption.
by Torisakia » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:56 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Torisakia wrote:I mean I wouldn't mind it honestly. Probably have a better time than I am now.
Dude seriously where can you be living that is so bad you would rather be in Pyongyang? I live in Utica, a tiny little third world dump about a half hour North of Detroit, and despite the heroin addicts and degenerate scumbags that live within these city limits, I wouldn't trade this for North Korea or even worse Congo. I would rather live in Baltimore than live in North korea. I would rather die than live in North Korea
Pacomia wrote:Torisakia wrote:I mean I wouldn't mind it honestly. Probably have a better time than I am now.
Because everyone knows that the United States is an incredibly underdeveloped nation where the average person is starving and living in constant fear of death at the hand of war, totalitarian governments, or untreated disease.
[TNN] A cargo ship belonging to Torisakia disappeared off the coast of Kostane late Wednesday evening. TBI suspects foul play. || Congress passes a T$10 billion aid package for the Democratic Populist rebels in Kostane. To include firearms, vehicles, and artillery.
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