by Nuroblav » Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:36 pm
by Yirophia » Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:41 pm
Nuroblav wrote:A lot of people aim to create what is in their opinion the best possible system, in order to create the society they see as the best. But what about thinking the other way? I had just been watching a video on creating the worst political system for everyone. The aim was to maximise misery as much as possible, creating a society that is the worst for absolutely everyone.
So what in your opinion would this look like? How would maximise misery for everyone for as long as possible? In my opinion, we would want something that was stable but oppressive. Doing something like dropping everyone into lava would last too quickly, so maximising misery would mean creating something totalitarian with absolutely no leeway for dissent whatsoever.
But what else would we add? Now yes, I'm joking of course and I don't actually want a society like this. I just thought it might be interesting. Take it away NSG!
by Dumb Ideologies » Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:50 pm
by Vascottozer » Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:58 pm
by Vivolkha » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:07 pm
by Noel » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:44 pm
by Pacomia » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:48 pm
by Country of CityTowne » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:49 pm
by Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:51 pm
Nuroblav wrote:A lot of people aim to create what is in their opinion the best possible system, in order to create the society they see as the best. But what about thinking the other way? I had just been watching a video on creating the worst political system for everyone. The aim was to maximise misery as much as possible, creating a society that is the worst for absolutely everyone.
So what in your opinion would this look like? How would maximise misery for everyone for as long as possible? In my opinion, we would want something that was stable but oppressive. Doing something like dropping everyone into lava would last too quickly, so maximising misery would mean creating something totalitarian with absolutely no leeway for dissent whatsoever.
But what else would we add? Now yes, I'm joking of course and I don't actually want a society like this. I just thought it might be interesting. Take it away NSG!
by Grenartia » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:52 pm
by Neu California » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:53 pm
by Grenartia » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:53 pm
Pacomia wrote:Oceania from 1984, but without the brainwashing, secrecy, or censorship- everyone knows exactly what's happening and disapproves of it, but can't do anything about it.
by Skyhooked » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:18 pm
by Trollzyn the Infinite » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:20 pm
by Country of CityTowne » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:26 pm
Skyhooked wrote:Dudes, I'd rather not give any ideas. Gods know, if someone in power gonna read this, take notes and test this on us all.
by Skyhooked » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:31 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:That would be Anarchism, as there would be neither Law nor Order and no one to enforce either. It'd be fucking chaos. Because despite what Anarchists might believe, there is no difference between Anarchism and Anarchy. They are one in the same.
by Xmara » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:10 pm
by Pacomia » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:16 pm
Skyhooked wrote:Dudes, I'd rather not give any ideas. Gods know, if someone in power gonna read this, take notes and test this on us all.
by Torisakia » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:18 pm
[TNN] A cargo ship belonging to Torisakia disappeared off the coast of Kostane late Wednesday evening. TBI suspects foul play. || Congress passes a T$10 billion aid package for the Democratic Populist rebels in Kostane. To include firearms, vehicles, and artillery.
by Rojava Free State » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:39 pm
everybody's running around trying to create the best possible political system, but none of them are perfect except primitivism. So I thought instead of creating the best possible political system that maximizes the most amount of happiness from the most amount of people, we can instead focus on a political system that does the exact opposite. A technically feasible system that would maximize human suffering, for the longest amount of time possible. That why I'm out to create a framework for the worst possible political system, negative politics if you will. We're gonna design a society and we're gonna call it hell, because that's what it's based off of.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Yirophia » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:04 pm
Torisakia wrote:I mean you could look at whatever system the US has and get your answer there.
by Horizonto » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:24 pm
by Rojava Free State » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:25 pm
Is this the MPLA? Or is this the UDA? Or is this the IRA? I thought it was the UK, or just another country
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Torisakia » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:25 pm
Yirophia wrote:Torisakia wrote:I mean you could look at whatever system the US has and get your answer there.
Imagine unironically thinking that the USA is, far beyond being a relatively socially, economically, and politically liberal and prosperous state that happens to have a long list of flaws it must continue to work at fixing, is not only the worst country to exist presently, not even the worst one to ever be, but the worst one mathematically possible.
And oh that's right, it was Jreg. I knew I'd seen this explored elsewhere but I'd forgotten where.
[TNN] A cargo ship belonging to Torisakia disappeared off the coast of Kostane late Wednesday evening. TBI suspects foul play. || Congress passes a T$10 billion aid package for the Democratic Populist rebels in Kostane. To include firearms, vehicles, and artillery.
by Rojava Free State » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:27 pm
Torisakia wrote:Yirophia wrote:Imagine unironically thinking that the USA is, far beyond being a relatively socially, economically, and politically liberal and prosperous state that happens to have a long list of flaws it must continue to work at fixing, is not only the worst country to exist presently, not even the worst one to ever be, but the worst one mathematically possible.
And oh that's right, it was Jreg. I knew I'd seen this explored elsewhere but I'd forgotten where.
I mean I've lived there my entire life so I think that gives me a good bit of credibility.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
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