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In retrospect..

The UK was right to handover HK to China
231
16%
The UK should have kept HK
289
20%
The UK should have set up HK as an independent, democratic state
870
60%
Other
58
4%
 
Total votes : 1448

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The JELLEAIN Republic
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Postby The JELLEAIN Republic » Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:27 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
The JELLEAIN Republic wrote:

Weather it be true or not.


To them the officers represent the corruptness of their own government, the influence of China,
And the autocratic blanket that has been laid over them.


The United Nations recognizes the flag of China as the flag of all Chinese people. I hope your not suggesting the protestors do not know the objective meaning of their own government’s flag?



Well that’s a lot of random to unpack...

First of all, the United Nations recognizing the autocratic dystopian (semi communist) regime, over the free and democratic Twain is deeply flawed. (And economically cowardly).

Second of all I was under the impression that the flag being vandalized was that of Hong Kong, not China.
But if anything, that makes it better.
China is the main source of their recent oppression, and thankfully they have had the opportunity to engage in free speech, presenting to them the horror that is the current mainland Chinese government. So they are fully aware of China’s actions and not completely monopolized by Chinese propaganda.

I am suggesting that they know completely what the Chinese flag represents. (Or even Hong Kong).

It represents the tyranny they are now fighting agents.


I hope you don’t think that the above mentioned flag auctaly represents anyone more than a tight knit circle of oligarchs.
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Heloin
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Postby Heloin » Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:28 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:No one has made this claim, only you have in a desperate attempt to save you point. Your point is dead, there is no support for China, the police, or the government in Hong Kong anymore. The people of Hong Kong support the protesters. Saying otherwise at this point makes you a liar.


Again... unless you over inflate the number of marchers; it’s quite clear that the majority continue to demonstrate support for the government through continued obedience to the law and not marching

Don’t lie

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Pasong Tirad
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:43 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:No one has made this claim, only you have in a desperate attempt to save you point. Your point is dead, there is no support for China, the police, or the government in Hong Kong anymore. The people of Hong Kong support the protesters. Saying otherwise at this point makes you a liar.


Again... unless you over inflate the number of marchers; it’s quite clear that the majority continue to demonstrate support for the government through continued obedience to the law and not marching

Okay, you can't be this delusional.

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Postby Genivaria » Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:52 pm

I think it's quite obvious at this point that IM is not arguing in good faith but is lying to support an agenda.

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Postby Bombadil » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:10 am

Genivaria wrote:I think it's quite obvious at this point that IM is not arguing in good faith but is lying to support an agenda.


I believe that point was passed many moons ago.
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Postby Lamoni » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:12 am

This thread is now approaching the five hundred page cutoff. Would someone please start a new thread on this topic?
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:13 am

Bombadil should do the honors, lest someone with less repute get there first.

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Postby Plzen » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:15 am

Pasong Tirad wrote:Bombadil should do the honors, lest someone with less repute get there first.

Seconded. Bombadil, if you will?

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Postby Bombadil » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:16 am

Pasong Tirad wrote:Bombadil should do the honors, lest someone with less repute get there first.


Aight.. I had asked Tuthinia to have a go but.. gimme a sec..
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Postby Lamoni » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:34 am

Given that this thread is approaching 500 pages, and Bombadil informs me that the new thread is ready, I am locking this thread.
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