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Which would be your favored candidate for the 2020 Republican Party presidential nomination?

Donald Trump
47
27%
Rocky De La Fuente
5
3%
Joe Walsh
4
2%
Bill Weld
23
13%
Bob Ely
0
No votes
Zoltan Istvan
6
3%
None of the above/other
30
17%
David Hasselhoff
58
34%
 
Total votes : 173

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Postby Gormwood » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:11 pm

Galloism wrote:
Fahran wrote:He extended the GOP base to encompass a wide swathe of people that liberals had managed to thoroughly ostracize despite ubiquitous claims of inclusivity and tolerance. White supremacists, of course, were one of those groups understandably but Trump hasn't given them a lot of the policies they wanted and probably won't be able to count on their support next year. Despite that, he's still on course to win his bid for reelection. Which suggests that our failings go well beyond not be stark, raving lunatic racists. I don't even think all of that new support was limited to the bloody-minded.


Who would you recommend? Harris? She's a law-enforcement officer who has been lagging behind in the primary. She's open to accusations about nepotism as well. Buttigieg? He's already being portrayed as too conservative and not "gay enough" whatever that means. He's going to be cannibalized by his fellow partisans. Warren would probably govern as a centrist if she got the nod and, while she has some baggage, she's not nearly as bad as Biden. She's never sucked her significant other's figers on live television or kissed a toddler as she struggled to escape. Biden is holding up well in polls at the moment, but Trump's attack ads can do a lot of damage and don't even have to be dishonest to do it. And Gabbard threw the ball out of bounds with her vote on impeachment.

If somehow Harris had gotten the nomination, *I* might have voted for Trump.

Fortunately for America, we dodged that bullet. She dropped out earlier this month.

Jesus Christ the Son of God could be the Democratic candidate and people especially Evangelicals would still vote for Trump.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:12 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Galloism wrote:If somehow Harris had gotten the nomination, *I* might have voted for Trump.

Fortunately for America, we dodged that bullet. She dropped out earlier this month.

Jesus Christ the Son of God could be the Democratic candidate and people especially Evangelicals would still vote for Trump.

I’m absolutely certain you’re correct. But it doesn’t have much to do with my post.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:14 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Galloism wrote:If somehow Harris had gotten the nomination, *I* might have voted for Trump.

Fortunately for America, we dodged that bullet. She dropped out earlier this month.

Jesus Christ the Son of God could be the Democratic candidate and people especially Evangelicals would still vote for Trump.


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Postby Fahran » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:14 pm

Gormwood wrote:Jesus Christ the Son of God could be the Democratic candidate and people especially Evangelicals would still vote for Trump.

Gauth, if Jesus was the opposition, YOU would vote for Trump. You're not ready for ascetic Judaism and striking bankers with whips.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:15 pm

Telconi wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Jesus Christ the Son of God could be the Democratic candidate and people especially Evangelicals would still vote for Trump.


Repetition doesn't beget truth.

Well, and as a functional matter, Jesus would never run for office. He quite literally fled when people tried to force him into office.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:15 pm

Fahran wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Jesus Christ the Son of God could be the Democratic candidate and people especially Evangelicals would still vote for Trump.

Gauth, if Jesus was the opposition, YOU would vote for Trump. You're not ready for ascetic Judaism and striking bankers with whips.

Hmm..... the latter might be worth the former....
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:17 pm

Fahran wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Jesus Christ the Son of God could be the Democratic candidate and people especially Evangelicals would still vote for Trump.

Gauth, if Jesus was the opposition, YOU would vote for Trump. You're not ready for ascetic Judaism and striking bankers with whips.

Let me get my polo shirt and tiki torch. :roll:
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Postby Fahran » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:18 pm

Galloism wrote:Hmm..... the latter might be worth the former....

I knew someone would say it. :lol:
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:18 pm

Galloism wrote:
Fahran wrote:Gauth, if Jesus was the opposition, YOU would vote for Trump. You're not ready for ascetic Judaism and striking bankers with whips.

Hmm..... the latter might be worth the former....

If Jesus was alive today he'd totally go Castlevania on Wall Street.
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Postby Fahran » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:19 pm

Gormwood wrote:Let me get my polo shirt and tiki torch. :roll:

It's that or sackcloth and telling people that they're going to Hell for not putting out their own eyes.
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Postby Nakena » Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:26 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Nakena wrote:End of the Year poll suggestions are now being taken.

I've got one so far.

How will impeachment affect Trump’s re-election

Whether it’ll help him because it fired up his base, hurt him because it gave a negative connotation to his name, or stuff along those lines


Write me up the questions in a code and i put them on.

Besides the other suggestion on the table is alternate GOP candidates in 2020. Which is an unlikely thing.

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Postby Gormwood » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:26 pm

ICE reopening long-closed deportation cases against Dreamers

Oh joy, more potential cases of people being deported to countries with no fluency in the native language or relatives and contacts to help them not fall the fuck apart. While some truly empathic souls unironically sing "America, FUCK YEAH!!"
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:31 pm

Gormwood wrote:ICE reopening long-closed deportation cases against Dreamers

Oh joy, more potential cases of people being deported to countries with no fluency in the native language or relatives and contacts to help them not fall the fuck apart. While some truly empathic souls unironically sing "America, FUCK YEAH!!"

If the law requires illegal immigrants to be deported, there should be as few exceptions as possible.
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Postby Albrenia » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:32 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:ICE reopening long-closed deportation cases against Dreamers

Oh joy, more potential cases of people being deported to countries with no fluency in the native language or relatives and contacts to help them not fall the fuck apart. While some truly empathic souls unironically sing "America, FUCK YEAH!!"

If the law requires illegal immigrants to be deported, there should be as few exceptions as possible.


Seems particularly heartless, seeing as how the crime wasn't commited by them and the US is the only home they've ever known.

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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:35 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:If the law requires illegal immigrants to be deported, there should be as few exceptions as possible.


Seems particularly heartless, seeing as how the crime wasn't commited by them and the US is the only home they've ever known.

Yet they willingly evaded the opportunity to gain citizenship.
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Postby Albrenia » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:35 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Seems particularly heartless, seeing as how the crime wasn't commited by them and the US is the only home they've ever known.

Yet they willingly evaded the opportunity to gain citizenship.


They did?

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Postby Galloism » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:36 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Seems particularly heartless, seeing as how the crime wasn't commited by them and the US is the only home they've ever known.

Yet they willingly evaded the opportunity to gain citizenship.

Actually, we forced it on them. DACA had no path to citizenship available for its users.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:40 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Yet they willingly evaded the opportunity to gain citizenship.


They did?

For as long as they remain in the country, yes.
Galloism wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Yet they willingly evaded the opportunity to gain citizenship.

Actually, we forced it on them. DACA had no path to citizenship available for its users.

No easy path, sure.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:44 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:ICE reopening long-closed deportation cases against Dreamers

Oh joy, more potential cases of people being deported to countries with no fluency in the native language or relatives and contacts to help them not fall the fuck apart. While some truly empathic souls unironically sing "America, FUCK YEAH!!"

If the law requires illegal immigrants to be deported, there should be as few exceptions as possible.

https://youtu.be/_keMcnUX3WA
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Postby Albrenia » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:48 pm

Since I don't know how hard it would be for a 'Dreamer' to gain citizenship, I can't really speak to if they were 'evading' it or just entirely unable to tackle the task of doing so.

Nonetheless, I'm still of the opinion that deporting otherwise law-abiding people who have spent their entire lives in a country and know nothing else seems particularly harsh. The added cost of opening the case, the process of detaining and deporting them, and all, makes it seem like the easier action would be to just let them stay unless they start doing stupid shit like committing crimes.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:50 pm

Albrenia wrote:Since I don't know how hard it would be for a 'Dreamer' to gain citizenship, I can't really speak to if they were 'evading' it or just entirely unable to tackle the task of doing so.

Nonetheless, I'm still of the opinion that deporting otherwise law-abiding people who have spent their entire lives in a country and know nothing else seems particularly harsh. The added cost of opening the case, the process of detaining and deporting them, and all, makes it seem like the easier action would be to just let them stay unless they start doing stupid shit like committing crimes.


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Postby Gormwood » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:50 pm

Albrenia wrote:Since I don't know how hard it would be for a 'Dreamer' to gain citizenship, I can't really speak to if they were 'evading' it or just entirely unable to tackle the task of doing so.

Nonetheless, I'm still of the opinion that deporting otherwise law-abiding people who have spent their entire lives in a country and know nothing else seems particularly harsh. The added cost of opening the case, the process of detaining and deporting them, and all, makes it seem like the easier action would be to just let them stay unless they start doing stupid shit like committing crimes.

Many came into the country as children brought by their parents. But I'm sure the usual suspects would want minors deported with no guarantees they'd understand the language or have help adjusting.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:54 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
They did?

For as long as they remain in the country, yes.
Galloism wrote:Actually, we forced it on them. DACA had no path to citizenship available for its users.

No easy path, sure.

No, no path.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:56 pm

OUCH. George is already sleeping on the couch anyways so he had nothing to lose.

George Conway's new nickname for Trump starts trend: 'IMPOTUS'
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Postby Maineiacs » Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:00 pm

Gormwood wrote:OUCH. George is already sleeping on the couch anyways so he had nothing to lose.

George Conway's new nickname for Trump starts trend: 'IMPOTUS'




:rofl: Oh man, if it wouldn't get me banned, it's all I'd call him from now on.
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