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2019-2020 US Election Megathread III: Biden VS Biden

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Who do you think had the best performance at tonight’s debate?

Bernie
65
62%
Buttigieg
12
11%
Warren
11
10%
Biden
5
5%
Steyer
4
4%
Klobuchar
8
8%
 
Total votes : 105

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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:18 pm

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Trump has auctally hurt the economy. But that would require far too much statistics, so I will just say

“China” and “tax cuts for rich”

Also almost nothing is TRUMPS. He doesn't even understand legalese or some basic concepts.

Not like he had bullet points and he has a speechwriter, more like “babysitting” (some book)

There is nothing he can do that would lose him a single voter. We have to outvote them
Next year. It’s our only hope of defeating the first order

Do you expect us to believe you have a firm grip on reality if you honestly think Trump is the First Order?
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Postby Gormwood » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:18 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Gormwood wrote:I did not know a confirmation hearing is actually a criminal trial. Do enlighten us.


oh so they were lying because they could?

You have this eagerness to jump on the Democrats Are Lying wagon on the slightest pretense.
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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:19 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:There is nothing he can do that would lose him a single voter. We have to outvote them
Next year. It’s our only hope of defeating the first order

Do you expect us to believe you have a firm grip on reality if you honestly think Trump is the First Order?


They think he is worse than the First Order

the first order had black storm troopers :)
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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:19 pm

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Nazeroth wrote:
oh so they were lying because they could?

You have this eagerness to jump on the Democrats Are Lying wagon on the slightest pretense.


then stop hitching your horses to it.
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Postby Gormwood » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:22 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Gormwood wrote:You have this eagerness to jump on the Democrats Are Lying wagon on the slightest pretense.


then stop hitching your horses to it.

Pffft. You're the one who claimed the Democrats wanted Kavanaugh imprisoned. You're the one holding the hitch here.
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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:24 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
then stop hitching your horses to it.

Pffft. You're the one who claimed the Democrats wanted Kavanaugh imprisoned. You're the one holding the hitch here.


They did, where were you during the "believe all women" movement?

Do you not have newspaperl, cable, satalite?

take your pic.

I mean you follow the news I imagine, at least in terms of large political events like the confirmation of a supreme court judge, I expect better from you.
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Postby The JELLEAIN Republic » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:26 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
The JELLEAIN Republic wrote:
Link ?

Also what are the chances it’s to say racist stuff..


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... La2eNIIzsD

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... ZmsnZUGPHM


Knowing trumps history, that sounds like a propaganda grant. Say more republican stuff and you get cash. There is a reason why lately educated people side more and more with the democrats.


Yet another quid pro quo
:rofl:

Guess it’s not a one hit wonder
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Postby Gormwood » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:27 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Pffft. You're the one who claimed the Democrats wanted Kavanaugh imprisoned. You're the one holding the hitch here.


They did, where were you during the "believe all women" movement?

Do you not have newspaperl, cable, satalite?

take your pic.

I mean you follow the news I imagine, at least in terms of large political events like the confirmation of a supreme court judge, I expect better from you.

They wanted him disqualified from the nomination. Didn't hear anything about trying him or putting him away. Quit hyperbolizing shit.
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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:27 pm

The JELLEAIN Republic wrote:


Knowing trumps history, that sounds like a propaganda grant. Say more republican stuff and you get cash. There is a reason why lately educated people side more and more with the democrats.


Yet another quid pro quo
:rofl:

Guess it’s not a one hit wonder


"propaganda grant"

so when he does something right it's just propaganda...got it...

but you are admitting he did something good?
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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:28 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
They did, where were you during the "believe all women" movement?

Do you not have newspaperl, cable, satalite?

take your pic.

I mean you follow the news I imagine, at least in terms of large political events like the confirmation of a supreme court judge, I expect better from you.

They wanted him disqualified from the nomination. Didn't hear anything about trying him or putting him away. Quit hyperbolizing shit.


Could have sworn they wanted a FBI investigation on him

maybe I'm wrong?
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Postby Gormwood » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:29 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Gormwood wrote:They wanted him disqualified from the nomination. Didn't hear anything about trying him or putting him away. Quit hyperbolizing shit.


Could have sworn they wanted a FBI investigation on him

maybe I'm wrong?

An FBI background check =/= criminal investigation
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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:30 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
Could have sworn they wanted a FBI investigation on him

maybe I'm wrong?

An FBI background check =/= criminal investigation


so why would you want to investigate someone for a crime like rape/sexual assault if you had no intention of legally prosecuting?

I think rape is pretty serious, don't know about you.
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Postby The JELLEAIN Republic » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:30 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
The JELLEAIN Republic wrote:
Knowing trumps history, that sounds like a propaganda grant. Say more republican stuff and you get cash. There is a reason why lately educated people side more and more with the democrats.


Yet another quid pro quo
:rofl:

Guess it’s not a one hit wonder


"propaganda grant"

so when he does something right it's just propaganda...got it...

but you are admitting he did something good?


No I mean they way he does things, it basically said “say more republican stuff”.

That’s not right. You think there is bias, then explore more options, except they have and expanded up at the same conclusions.

I don’t say stuff like that lightely. I can never say 100% I am right, I not only do I strongly believe what I said, I believe I have the information that backs it.
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Postby The JELLEAIN Republic » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:31 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Gormwood wrote:An FBI background check =/= criminal investigation


so why would you want to investigate someone for a crime like rape/sexual assault if you had no intention of legally prosecuting?

I think rape is pretty serious, don't know about you.



Erhermm (hunter biden)

Also a background check is not either or with a trail.

But this wasn’t held to the same standards as a trial. They just wanted to make sure the judge is background checked. If that happens to find some stuff then get him. But it woukdent be to go after him, but to keep the Supreme Court secure.
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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:31 pm

The JELLEAIN Republic wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
"propaganda grant"

so when he does something right it's just propaganda...got it...

but you are admitting he did something good?


No I mean they way he does things, it basically said “say more republican stuff”.

That’s not right. You think there is bias, then explore more options, except they have and expanded up at the same conclusions.

I don’t say stuff like that lightely. I can never say 100% I am right, I not only do I strongly believe what I said, I believe I have the information that backs it.


so were clear that the executive order isn't racist?
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Postby Nazeroth » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:33 pm

The JELLEAIN Republic wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:
so why would you want to investigate someone for a crime like rape/sexual assault if you had no intention of legally prosecuting?

I think rape is pretty serious, don't know about you.



Erhermm (hunter biden)



I don't know, I think someone being the son of a vice president with a massive history of drug abuse and being kicked out of the military being on the board of a foreign company making over 50K a month with no qualifications sounds like something worth investigating, guess it's not fishy to you.
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Postby The JELLEAIN Republic » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:34 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
The JELLEAIN Republic wrote:
No I mean they way he does things, it basically said “say more republican stuff”.

That’s not right. You think there is bias, then explore more options, except they have and expanded up at the same conclusions.

I don’t say stuff like that lightely. I can never say 100% I am right, I not only do I strongly believe what I said, I believe I have the information that backs it.


so were clear that the executive order isn't racist?


It seems that way
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Postby Kowani » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:34 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
Gormwood wrote:An FBI background check =/= criminal investigation


so why would you want to investigate someone for a crime like rape/sexual assault if you had no intention of legally prosecuting?

I think rape is pretty serious, don't know about you.

Perhaps because they didn’t want to prosecute without proof?
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:35 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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That's not true. The best defense is that Democrats gerrymander less than Republicans do.

Give an example then


Maryland. With 60% of the vote Democrats won 7 of 8 House seats.
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Postby The JELLEAIN Republic » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:35 pm

Nazeroth wrote:
The JELLEAIN Republic wrote:

Erhermm (hunter biden)



I don't know, I think someone being the son of a vice president with a massive history of drug abuse and being kicked out of the military being on the board of a foreign company making over 50K a month with no qualifications sounds like something worth investigating, guess it's not fishy to you.



Hunter Biden has already admitted he probably only got hired cuz of his last name.
But he didn't do anything illegal, corrupt our government, or jeopardize the safety of an ally.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:37 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Give an example then


Maryland. With 60% of the vote Democrats won 7 of 8 House seats.


ok but they still got the most seats. i said give an example of Democrats getting the most seats while losing the popular vote

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Postby The JELLEAIN Republic » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:46 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Maryland. With 60% of the vote Democrats won 7 of 8 House seats.


ok but they still got the most seats. i said give an example of Democrats getting the most seats while losing the popular vote


https://ballotpedia.org/U.S._House_battlegrounds,_2018

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_state ... lue_states
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:49 pm

The JELLEAIN Republic wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
ok but they still got the most seats. i said give an example of Democrats getting the most seats while losing the popular vote


https://ballotpedia.org/U.S._House_battlegrounds,_2018

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_state ... lue_states

That is not what im asking

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Postby The JELLEAIN Republic » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:51 pm




Oops.


I don’t know where to get that data.
The republicans it’s widespread, but democrats if at all are in some few Isolated regions.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:54 pm

The JELLEAIN Republic wrote:
San Lumen wrote:That is not what im asking



Oops.


I don’t know where to get that data.
The republicans it’s widespread, but democrats if at all are in some few Isolated regions.

I doubt know of a single instance where Democrats got the most seats but lost the popular vote.

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