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Which would be your favored candidate for the 2020 Republican Party presidential nomination?

Donald Trump
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27%
Rocky De La Fuente
5
3%
Joe Walsh
4
2%
Bill Weld
23
13%
Bob Ely
0
No votes
Zoltan Istvan
6
3%
None of the above/other
30
17%
David Hasselhoff
58
34%
 
Total votes : 173

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Postby Fahran » Fri Dec 13, 2019 10:49 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Hmmm? And what prevented him?.....Nobody. Try again Ivan.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:47 am

Telconi wrote:
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Hmmm? And what prevented him?.....Nobody. Try again Ivan.


Well given that he didn't become a dictator obviously something prevented him.

Only if you assume he was trying to be a dictator.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:41 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Well given that he didn't become a dictator obviously something prevented him.

Only if you assume he was trying to be a dictator.


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Postby Gormwood » Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:43 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Well given that he didn't become a dictator obviously something prevented him.

Only if you assume he was trying to be a dictator.

He's talking like FDR instituted national gun confiscation in the middle of World War 2.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:33 am

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Bear Stearns wrote:
Democrats fucking with the court started before the 1960s. FDR basically tried to make himself a dictator.


Hmmm? And what prevented him?


The party was pretty much in open revolt against some of his more egregiously authoritarian ideas and he was forced to walk them back. The court packing scheme was a big one, Congress tore it to pieces and even though FDR did manage to bully SCOTUS into siding with him that was still a notable defeat.
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Postby Zurkerx » Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:17 am

Gormwood wrote:
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Don't forget United States v. Nixon. I don't think they will overturn them though they may limit them, which, in that case, won't make Trump happy either. When we get reports on how the oral arguments go, we'll have an idea then. Until then, we can only speculate. I'll reserve some confidences for these issues. However, DACA is likely going to be ruled unconstitutional (not related but I figure I mention it).

Deporting DACA recepients. Brainless as releasing animals born and raised in captivity into the wild. There was that one guy deported to Iraq with no fluency in Arabic and diabetes who died there shortly afterwards.


Yep, and I remember that story. It was honestly disgusting. We also have several cases involving social issues too. It's going to be an impactful year for 202, and one that'll shape the country going forward.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:55 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Deporting DACA recepients. Brainless as releasing animals born and raised in captivity into the wild. There was that one guy deported to Iraq with no fluency in Arabic and diabetes who died there shortly afterwards.


Yep, and I remember that story. It was honestly disgusting. We also have several cases involving social issues too. It's going to be an impactful year for 202, and one that'll shape the country going forward.


Such a nice and round numbered year for it to happen in, too.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:18 pm

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:35 pm


So her baby is sacred but if another child takes up a cause then fuck that little shit.
Yeah fuck Melania.

Cue Melania attacking Greta's mother.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:36 pm

Genivaria wrote:

So her baby is sacred but if another child takes up a cause then fuck that little shit.
Yeah fuck Melania.

No thanks, Donny already went in there.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:19 pm


Difference is, Greta has made herself a public figure, whereas Baron has been mostly reclusive.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:23 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:

Difference is, Greta has made herself a public figure, whereas Baron has been mostly reclusive.

Barron. At least get the kid's name right. I find it interesting that Trump named his youngest son after a pseudonym he used back in the 80s. Weird.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:25 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Difference is, Greta has made herself a public figure, whereas Baron has been mostly reclusive.

Barron. At least get the kid's name right. I find it interesting that Trump named his youngest son after a pseudonym he used back in the 80s. Weird.

My inability to spell his name is further proof of his reclusiveness. Granted, Trump is an egomaniac so it's not surprising at all.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:27 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:

Difference is, Greta has made herself a public figure, whereas Baron has been mostly reclusive.

It wasn't even an insult about Barron, just a lame pun about how being named Barron doesn't automatically make one a baron. But liberals are supposed to be the thin-skinned snowflakes somehow.
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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:29 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Difference is, Greta has made herself a public figure, whereas Baron has been mostly reclusive.

Barron. At least get the kid's name right. I find it interesting that Trump named his youngest son after a pseudonym he used back in the 80s. Weird.


"Baron" is a title of nobility, I guess it's just that. In America the Royalty are Billionaires.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:31 pm

Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Barron. At least get the kid's name right. I find it interesting that Trump named his youngest son after a pseudonym he used back in the 80s. Weird.


"Baron" is a title of nobility, I guess it's just that. In America the Royalty are Billionaires.

Be that as it may, Trump's son's name has two Rs, not one.
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Postby Fahran » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:32 pm

Genivaria wrote:

So her baby is sacred but if another child takes up a cause then fuck that little shit.
Yeah fuck Melania.

Cue Melania attacking Greta's mother.

Her son is a private citizen. Greta Thunberg is an activist. There's a difference. With that being said, nobody should resort to ad hominems and bullying. Her husband is a bully. Most of his political opponents are bullies too in all honesty. And they should all cut it out.
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Postby Fahran » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:33 pm

Gormwood wrote:It wasn't even an insult about Barron, just a lame pun about how being named Barron doesn't automatically make one a baron. But liberals are supposed to be the thin-skinned snowflakes somehow.

Some left-wing activists don't seem to be able to resist picking on a preteen who is a private citizen simply because of who his father is.
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Postby Fahran » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:34 pm

Gormwood wrote:No thanks, Donny already went in there.

Gross.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:54 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
"Baron" is a title of nobility, I guess it's just that. In America the Royalty are Billionaires.

Be that as it may, Trump's son's name has two Rs, not one.


Not our fault Americans don't know how to spell properly. :P

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Postby Gravlen » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:54 pm

Fahran wrote:
Gormwood wrote:It wasn't even an insult about Barron, just a lame pun about how being named Barron doesn't automatically make one a baron. But liberals are supposed to be the thin-skinned snowflakes somehow.

Some left-wing activists don't seem to be able to resist picking on a preteen who is a private citizen simply because of who his father is.

That may be so, but the recent statement, "The president can name his son Barron, he can't make him a baron", is not picking on any children.

A reminder, Melania's response to that was:
"A minor child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics. Pamela Karlan, you should be ashamed of your very angry and obviously biased public pandering, and using a child to do it."

...but when Trump the does attack a minor child, through a very angry and obviously biased public pandering, and using a child to do it, she's suddenly claiming that it's OK because the two children are "not in the same league"?

#BeBest my ass.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:55 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Difference is, Greta has made herself a public figure, whereas Baron has been mostly reclusive.

It wasn't even an insult about Barron, just a lame pun about how being named Barron doesn't automatically make one a baron. But liberals are supposed to be the thin-skinned snowflakes somehow.

Not to worry, deflections from having thin skin does not remove it.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:57 pm

Fahran wrote:
Genivaria wrote:So her baby is sacred but if another child takes up a cause then fuck that little shit.
Yeah fuck Melania.

Cue Melania attacking Greta's mother.

Her son is a private citizen. Greta Thunberg is an activist. There's a difference. With that being said, nobody should resort to ad hominems and bullying. Her husband is a bully. Most of his political opponents are bullies too in all honesty. And they should all cut it out.


How the fuck do you bully the most powerful person on the planet?

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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:01 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Fahran wrote:Her son is a private citizen. Greta Thunberg is an activist. There's a difference. With that being said, nobody should resort to ad hominems and bullying. Her husband is a bully. Most of his political opponents are bullies too in all honesty. And they should all cut it out.


How the fuck do you bully the most powerful person on the planet?

Depends on the method.
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Postby Fahran » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:02 pm

Gravlen wrote:...but when Trump the does attack a minor child, through a very angry and obviously biased public pandering, and using a child to do it, she's suddenly claiming that it's OK because the two children are "not in the same league"?

#BeBest my ass.

It's not okay. I specifically called Trump a bully for attacking Greta in that way. And that's just the latest in a long line of such remarks and behaviors. If you want to engage teenage activists (or any activists really), it looks a lot better to respectfully engage their arguments that to insult and belittle them. Melania tends to go quiet when her husband does things like this and I agree that it's hypocritical, but, given his temperament and vulnerability, I get why she does it. It's sometimes hard to call out disagreeable family members and continue having a loving relationship at the same time. The principled thing would be to call him out or to take him aside and tell him that bullying a child, even if she's an activist, isn't cool. But she has to look out for her family life and child too.
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