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After trial and conviction, what should be done with serial sexual abusers?

1. Death penalty
56
42%
2. Life in prison but in gen pop
31
23%
3. 7 Day ban for choosing any of the two above
21
16%
4. Life in prison but in protective custody
24
18%
 
Total votes : 132

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Postby Antityranicals » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:13 pm

Gorbehstan wrote:
Omega America II wrote:
When you say right, do you mean morally right?

Yes.

That doesn't make sense. What if you are the one with the most might? What then is the morally "right" thing for you to do?
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Postby Antityranicals » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:13 pm

Gorbehstan wrote:
Antityranicals wrote:SSA isn't Abrahamic, really. The Japanese concept of honor served as a decent substitute for the Abrahamic Tradition...

How exactly isn’t SSA Abrahamic? For example Somalia is authentically Muslim.

Somalia isn't SSA... Learn your geography.
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:13 pm

Gorbehstan wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

So, can you give me a list of the "Bad" People. anyways, flood Britain with Muslims. That is the quickest way to bring back traditional values to the region. :lol2:


Whether someone is Muslim doesn’t matter much. Pakistanis are good people, just not as good as Anglos. On this planet only Ashkenazim are better than Germanic peoples...in the early 21st century.



Eww, Anglos. We need the Anti-Anglo Gang and Israel should not exist. My support goes to the palestinians.
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Postby Gorbehstan » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:14 pm

Omega America II wrote:
Gorbehstan wrote:Yes.


So if a nation eradicates entire groups of people to establish their dominance, would they be morally in the right?

That’s precisely why certain places are so developed. They simply did away with the natives and hence they rule and prosper even today. Australia, America, Canada and Taiwan are all good examples..
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:15 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Gorbehstan wrote:
Whether someone is Muslim doesn’t matter much. Pakistanis are good people, just not as good as Anglos. On this planet only Ashkenazim are better than Germanic peoples...in the early 21st century.



Eww, Anglos. We need the Anti-Anglo Gang and Israel should not exist. My support goes to the palestinians.


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Postby Omega America II » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:16 pm

Gorbehstan wrote:
Omega America II wrote:
So if a nation eradicates entire groups of people to establish their dominance, would they be morally in the right?

That’s precisely why certain places are so developed. They simply did away with the natives and hence they rule and prosper even today.


I'm not sure how to even respond to this. You're completely fine with the death of innocent people in the name of establishing dominance and being "developed"? Does compassion or human empathy register with you?
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Postby Communal concils » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:16 pm

Loben The 2nd wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

There is no french man with out the Franks, There is no Spaniard without the Visigoths and Germanic People that burned down Rome were actually the saviors of Western civilization.



Revisionist, lies.


Good Revisionism.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:16 pm

Gorbehstan wrote:
Omega America II wrote:
So if a nation eradicates entire groups of people to establish their dominance, would they be morally in the right?

That’s precisely why certain places are so developed. They simply did away with the natives and hence they rule and prosper even today. Australia, America, Canada and Taiwan are all good examples..

>Prosper

>America

This only holds true if you define prosperity as GDP and literally nothing else.
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Postby Antityranicals » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:17 pm

Communal concils wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:

Revisionist, lies.


Good Revisionism.

The Germanic people saved the Romans from the bankrupt socialist bureaucracy which Rome had become.
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Postby Gorbehstan » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:17 pm

Omega America II wrote:
Gorbehstan wrote:That’s precisely why certain places are so developed. They simply did away with the natives and hence they rule and prosper even today.


I'm not sure how to even respond to this. You're completely fine with the death of innocent people in the name of establishing dominance and being "developed"? Does compassion or human empathy register with you?


Sadly this is how the universe works. Humans can only improve by eliminating the unfit. Any improvement is built on bones.
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:18 pm

Kowani wrote:
Gorbehstan wrote:That’s precisely why certain places are so developed. They simply did away with the natives and hence they rule and prosper even today. Australia, America, Canada and Taiwan are all good examples..

>Prosper

>America

This only holds true if you define prosperity as GDP and literally nothing else.


You were going on about how great things are here before. Do you care to take that back? I'm waiting with bated breath :^)

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Postby Communal concils » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:18 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Communal concils wrote:

Eww, Anglos. We need the Anti-Anglo Gang and Israel should not exist. My support goes to the palestinians.


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wait....Mosley is a Fascist. I would say "Bash the Fash" but the decentralize Petit Bourgeois Organization known as "ANTIFA" stole it.
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NOTE: Make Cultural Marxism a Real Thing !

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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:19 pm

Gorbehstan wrote:What I said is true. All Caucasoids are good. Some Mongoloids are good. No Negroids or Australoids is good.

Given your history across puppets, we're skipping the pleasantries.

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Postby Communal concils » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:19 pm

Antityranicals wrote:
Communal concils wrote:
Good Revisionism.

The Germanic people saved the Romans from the bankrupt socialist bureaucracy which Rome had become.



Comrade, that is not Double Plus Good!
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List of liberal or semi-liberal ideologies to avoid: "Left"-communism, trotskyism, Intersectionalism, anarchism,classical liberal, social liberalism and economic liberalism( conservatives are addicted to this)

Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:19 pm

Communal concils wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
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wait....Mosley is a Fascist. I would say "Bash the Fash" but the decentralize Petit Bourgeois Organization known as "ANTIFA" stole it.


Extremely redpilled take. I had a very sensible chuckle, I hope you don't mind if I borrow your description there.

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Postby Antityranicals » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:19 pm

Gorbehstan wrote:
Omega America II wrote:
I'm not sure how to even respond to this. You're completely fine with the death of innocent people in the name of establishing dominance and being "developed"? Does compassion or human empathy register with you?


Sadly this is how the universe works. Humans only improve by eliminating the unfit.

No, humans improve by capital accumulation. Judeo-Christianity was among the first belief systems to allow for the concept of property rights, which encourage capital accumulation, which is why places prosper proportionally to the extent of their property rights.
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Postby Omega America II » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:20 pm

Gorbehstan wrote:
Omega America II wrote:
I'm not sure how to even respond to this. You're completely fine with the death of innocent people in the name of establishing dominance and being "developed"? Does compassion or human empathy register with you?


Sadly this is how the universe works. Humans can only improve by eliminating the unfit. Any improvement is built on bones.


Social Darwinism has no place in modern society. There is no eliminating the "unfit" and the idea of doing so is simply evil.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:23 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Kowani wrote:>Prosper

>America

This only holds true if you define prosperity as GDP and literally nothing else.


You were going on about how great things are here before. Do you care to take that back? I'm waiting with bated breath :^)

That the prosperity is not shared across the country does not mean that now is not a better era to live in comparison to the past.


Antityranicals wrote:
Communal concils wrote:
Good Revisionism.

The Germanic people saved the Romans from the bankrupt socialist bureaucracy which Rome had become.

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Postby Communal concils » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:24 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Communal concils wrote:



wait....Mosley is a Fascist. I would say "Bash the Fash" but the decentralize Petit Bourgeois Organization known as "ANTIFA" stole it.


Extremely redpilled take. I had a very sensible chuckle, I hope you don't mind if I borrow your description there.



You can borrow it.
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List of liberal or semi-liberal ideologies to avoid: "Left"-communism, trotskyism, Intersectionalism, anarchism,classical liberal, social liberalism and economic liberalism( conservatives are addicted to this)

Become anti-woke, and free yourself from the lies of mainstream corporate consumerist media.you should also become an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist. Embrace socialism( the command economy is better.)
NOTE: Make Cultural Marxism a Real Thing !

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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:25 pm

Kowani wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
You were going on about how great things are here before. Do you care to take that back? I'm waiting with bated breath :^)

That the prosperity is not shared across the country does not mean that now is not a better era to live in comparison to the past.


Oh so America did prosper in a way then? Gotta walk back or adjust one of them :^)

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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:27 pm

Communal concils wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Extremely redpilled take. I had a very sensible chuckle, I hope you don't mind if I borrow your description there.



You can borrow it.


Thank you. Honestly that was a good round of exchanges by all sides excepting a few. I haven't seen that for some time. Glad you're around to spice things up a bit.
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Postby Antityranicals » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:27 pm

Kowani wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
You were going on about how great things are here before. Do you care to take that back? I'm waiting with bated breath :^)

That the prosperity is not shared across the country does not mean that now is not a better era to live in comparison to the past.


Antityranicals wrote:The Germanic people saved the Romans from the bankrupt socialist bureaucracy which Rome had become.

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Yup. The Romans invented welfare, and it was their downfall. To pay for it, they had to resort to coin debasement, which caused prices to rise. To lower prices, they instituted price controls. When food inevitably became scarce because it wasn't worth farmer's while to grow it to sell at lower prices, they instituted serfdom, which forced farmers to continue farming their land forever under punishment of death. It was this land of serfs and ever-more impoverished noblemen which the barbarian invaders invaded. The former Romans were generally quite happy to be conquered, which is a huge part of why Rome fell.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:30 pm

Antityranicals wrote:
Gorbehstan wrote:
Sadly this is how the universe works. Humans only improve by eliminating the unfit.

No, humans improve by capital accumulation.
Well, no.
Judeo-Christianity was among the first belief systems to allow for the concept of property rights,
This is false.
which encourage capital accumulation,
In the hands of the few. Recommended Reading: Capital in the 21st Century
which is why places prosper proportionally to the extent of their property rights.

Not really.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:31 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Kowani wrote:That the prosperity is not shared across the country does not mean that now is not a better era to live in comparison to the past.


Oh so America did prosper in a way then? Gotta walk back or adjust one of them :^)

Yes, it prospered if you define prosperity as GDP. This was in the original claim.
Unfortunately, GDP is a mostly useless economic measurement.
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:34 pm

Kowani wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Oh so America did prosper in a way then? Gotta walk back or adjust one of them :^)

Yes, it prospered if you define prosperity as GDP. This was in the original claim.
Unfortunately, GDP is a mostly useless economic measurement.


No, you just said the prosperity wasn't shared not that it prospered if you base it on GDP. Your two positions are contradictory. Which one is it Kowani? Come now, I'll not bite if you walk back one over broad statement.

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