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Which would be your favored candidate for the 2020 Republican Party presidential nomination?

Donald Trump
47
27%
Rocky De La Fuente
5
3%
Joe Walsh
4
2%
Bill Weld
23
13%
Bob Ely
0
No votes
Zoltan Istvan
6
3%
None of the above/other
30
17%
David Hasselhoff
58
34%
 
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:35 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Fucking morals is why Nurenberg had to be held, but it's not something you'd worry about.


Except when it's done to actual scum bags who deserve it, then I don't give a shit. So like I said, fuck this moralistic horse crap.


Ok? What does this edgy talk and morality talk have to do with All Things NOT Impeachment?
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:37 pm

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Spirit of Hope wrote:Your glad President Trump intervened, overruled military justice, and made a criminal get off without the set punishment? Why?


Because as I said, fuck morals and fuck criminalizing marijuana use.

If you're not moved by the immorality of Gallagher's crimes, perhaps consider the effect on discipline and good order in the military that will come from Trump thwarting the application of the UCMJ. Why should any soldier, sailor, airman or marine bother to follow the orders of their superiors when they can escape all punishment just by trending on Twitter?
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Postby Nakena » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:37 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Because as I said, fuck morals and fuck criminalizing marijuana use.

Fucking morals is why Nurenberg had to be held, but it's not something you'd worry about.


How is that relevant now? Come on...

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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:40 pm

Why is Trump so popular among HK protestors? Out of the loop on that one
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:40 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Except when it's done to actual scum bags who deserve it, then I don't give a shit. So like I said, fuck this moralistic horse crap.


Ok? What does this edgy talk and morality talk have to do with All Things NOT Impeachment?

Because someone wanted to be edgy saying Gallagher posing with a human corpse like the Trump boys shooting African wildlife is no big deal.
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Postby Valrifell » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:45 pm

Aureumterra wrote:Why is Trump so popular among HK protestors? Out of the loop on that one


If I had to hazard a guess I'd say it's mostly down to his "tough on Beijing" stances and the pro-HK bill he signed.
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Postby Nakena » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:45 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Because as I said, fuck morals and fuck criminalizing marijuana use.

If you're not moved by the immorality of Gallagher's crimes, perhaps consider the effect on discipline and good order in the military that will come from Trump thwarting the application of the UCMJ. Why should any soldier, sailor, airman or marine bother to follow the orders of their superiors when they can escape all punishment just by trending on Twitter?


Which crimes? That he supposedly spammed missiles and, supposedly, almost ran over an MP?

Or that he gutted the ISIS dude?

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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:47 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Why is Trump so popular among HK protestors? Out of the loop on that one


If I had to hazard a guess I'd say it's mostly down to his "tough on Beijing" stances and the pro-HK bill he signed.

Wasn’t following US news for the past few weeks, what exactly does the bill do?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:48 pm

Nakena wrote:
Ifreann wrote:If you're not moved by the immorality of Gallagher's crimes, perhaps consider the effect on discipline and good order in the military that will come from Trump thwarting the application of the UCMJ. Why should any soldier, sailor, airman or marine bother to follow the orders of their superiors when they can escape all punishment just by trending on Twitter?


Which crimes? That he supposedly spammed missiles and, supposedly, almost ran over an MP?

Or that he gutted the ISIS dude?

Well y'know... Dirlewanger did the same... to a lot of people the Nazis considered "subhumans"... should Dirlewanger's example be emulated when dealing with "subhumans"?
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:49 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Why is Trump so popular among HK protestors? Out of the loop on that one


If I had to hazard a guess I'd say it's mostly down to his "tough on Beijing" stances and the pro-HK bill he signed.

Which he'll readily stiff the protestors on the second he thinks it'll get him a sweet publicity deal with China.
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Postby Nakena » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:50 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Which crimes? That he supposedly spammed missiles and, supposedly, almost ran over an MP?

Or that he gutted the ISIS dude?

Well y'know... Dirlewanger did the same... to a lot of people... should Dirlewanger's example be emulated?


Dirlewangler did a lot more than Gallagher ever did and was, rightfully, put to firing squad. There have been worse crimes comitted by members of the US military that havent been properly punished. (and by properly i mean firing squad or hanging) Want me to link some?
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Postby Crockerland » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:50 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Which crimes? That he supposedly spammed missiles and, supposedly, almost ran over an MP?

Or that he gutted the ISIS dude?

Well y'know... Dirlewanger did the same... to a lot of people... should Dirlewanger's example be emulated when dealing with "subhumans"?

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Postby Purpelia » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:51 pm

Gormwood wrote:If the Republicans are trying not to make Trump look like a cult leader they're looking to be doing a bad job of it:

Poll: Majority of Republicans say Trump better president than Lincoln

When you say the moron trying to bankrupt the Union several ways is a better President than the man who preserved it...

You mean the guy whose political advocacy for a highly controversial issue sparked your civil war? Mind you, I take his side on the issue but still. He did basically precise over half your country demanding to leave and told them "Nope, lets have a big war instead." Maybe someone more diplomatic in his position could have solved the situation more amicably.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:51 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Well y'know... Dirlewanger did the same... to a lot of people... should Dirlewanger's example be emulated when dealing with "subhumans"?

Comparing ISIS terrorist combatants to innocent Jewish civilians killed in the Holocaust to own the Trump supporters.

They considered Jewish civilians "subhumans" worthy of being butchered, we consider ISIS terrorists who's wounded and surrendered - hors de combat by all definitions "subhumans" worthy of being butchered. Whence the difference?
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:52 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Well y'know... Dirlewanger did the same... to a lot of people... should Dirlewanger's example be emulated when dealing with "subhumans"?

Comparing ISIS terrorist combatants to innocent Jewish civilians killed in the Holocaust to own the Trump supporters.

Treating dead terrorists exactly like trophy bucks and saying it's perfectly fine to Own the Libs.
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Postby Crockerland » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:53 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Crockerland wrote:Comparing ISIS terrorist combatants to innocent Jewish civilians killed in the Holocaust to own the Trump supporters.

They considered Jewish civilians "subhumans" worthy of being butchered, we consider ISIS terrorists who's wounded and surrendered - hors de combat by all definitions "subhumans" worthy of being butchered? Whence the difference?

Well, to start, one is a member of ISIS.
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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:53 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Crockerland wrote:Comparing ISIS terrorist combatants to innocent Jewish civilians killed in the Holocaust to own the Trump supporters.

They considered Jewish civilians "subhumans" worthy of being butchered, we consider ISIS terrorists who's wounded and surrendered - hors de combat by all definitions "subhumans" worthy of being butchered. Whence the difference?

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Postby Nakena » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:53 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Crockerland wrote:Comparing ISIS terrorist combatants to innocent Jewish civilians killed in the Holocaust to own the Trump supporters.

They considered Jewish civilians "subhumans" worthy of being butchered, we consider ISIS terrorists who's wounded and surrendered - hors de combat by all definitions "subhumans" worthy of being butchered. Whence the difference?


Bruh.

Ever thought about come off that high horse of judging morality you have been riding here a lot?

Ice's getting thin.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:54 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:They considered Jewish civilians "subhumans" worthy of being butchered, we consider ISIS terrorists who's wounded and surrendered - hors de combat by all definitions "subhumans" worthy of being butchered? Whence the difference?

Well, to start, one is a member of ISIS.

Is a civilian in burqa in Raqqa a "subhuman" since they live in an ISIS controlled city and worthy of butchering? Should we just go and gas the entire Middle East in Treblinkas?
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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:55 pm

Nakena wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:They considered Jewish civilians "subhumans" worthy of being butchered, we consider ISIS terrorists who's wounded and surrendered - hors de combat by all definitions "subhumans" worthy of being butchered. Whence the difference?


Bruh.

Ever thought about come off that high horse of judging morality you have been riding here a lot?

Ice's getting thin.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:55 pm

Nakena wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:They considered Jewish civilians "subhumans" worthy of being butchered, we consider ISIS terrorists who's wounded and surrendered - hors de combat by all definitions "subhumans" worthy of being butchered. Whence the difference?


Bruh.

Ever thought about come off that high horse of judging morality you have been riding here a lot?

Ice's getting thin.

Geneva doesn't fucking care. Should I?
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:56 pm

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Necroghastia wrote:They're just as human.


Marines are not human. By weight, they're 78% Crayola.

Seems a bit low tbh. I would have assumed they are at least 81%
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Postby Crockerland » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:57 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Crockerland wrote:Well, to start, one is a member of ISIS.

Is a civilian in burqa in Raqqa a "subhuman" since they live in an ISIS controlled city and worthy of butchering? Should we just go and gas the entire Middle East in Treblinkas?

Again attempting to conflate civilians with terrorist combatants. Well I suppose it could be worse, you could be trying to equate the systematic genocide of an entire race of people to knifing an ISIS fighter... Ah, wait, no, you already did that.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:58 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Is a civilian in burqa in Raqqa a "subhuman" since they live in an ISIS controlled city and worthy of butchering? Should we just go and gas the entire Middle East in Treblinkas?

Again attempting to conflate civilians with terrorist combatants. Well I suppose it could be worse, you could be trying to equate the systematic genocide of an entire race of people to knifing an ISIS fighter... Ah, wait, no, you already did that.

What if that "civilian" is sequestering an RPD under their burqa? Should we gas Raqqa now?
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:58 pm

Chernoslavia wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:If your stance is that doing something to a dead body is meaningless then the Somalis did nothing wrong, if it is possible to desecrate bodies then Chief Gallagher went against the UCMJ and needs to be punished. Choose one.


Except I don't give a flying fuck when it's done to fucking human trash. Fuck them. In fact, I wish he'd also just pissed all over his corpse denying his fucking entry to heaven and then tied the guy's legs to the end of a HMMWV and then dragged his piece of shit corpse through the FOB. Fuck your morals and fuck terrorist pieces of human garbage. I don't give a shit. Is that a good enough fucking answer for you?

Ya fuck that shit. Doing that which you propose makes you no better than the terrorists you claim to hate. Hell that gives them more propaganda that’s actually fucking true which means more terrorists. So fuck that shit
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