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Postby Diopolis » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:37 pm

Arachkya wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Because why? What exactly sets them apart from any other moderately authoritarian middle income country?

The whole ''gay propaganda'' nonsense.

I asked what made them different from other moderately authoritarian middle income countries.
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Postby Arachkya » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:38 pm

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Arachkya wrote:The whole ''gay propaganda'' nonsense.

I asked what made them different from other moderately authoritarian middle income countries.

The fact they control and affect a large area, probablty the whole world?

It is probably a gutt feeling.
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Postby Diopolis » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:40 pm

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Diopolis wrote:I asked what made them different from other moderately authoritarian middle income countries.

The fact they control and affect a large area, probablty the whole world?

It is probably a gutt feeling.

I mean, India has something like ten times the population and being gay carries a lengthy jail term there.
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Postby Arachkya » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:40 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Arachkya wrote:The fact they control and affect a large area, probablty the whole world?

It is probably a gutt feeling.

I mean, India has something like ten times the population and being gay carries a lengthy jail term there.

I thought that was abolished.
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Postby Diopolis » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:42 pm

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Diopolis wrote:I mean, India has something like ten times the population and being gay carries a lengthy jail term there.

I thought that was abolished.

It was struck down by their Supreme Court on a technicality and they reversed their ruling a year later, IIRC.
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Postby Arachkya » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:42 pm

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Arachkya wrote:I thought that was abolished.

It was struck down by their Supreme Court on a technicality and they reversed their ruling a year later, IIRC.

Oh, really? Damn.
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Postby Klorgia1 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:44 pm

Political division in Democracy is natural. Donald is a step into insanity, as is the populist reactionaryism of the Republicans, but he's not fundamentally dangerous enough that he could destroy the country; how much of the Republican policies now will be the status quo in 2022? 2024? 2207-8-9?

Its the nature of Right-wing Reactionaryism to gain a high tide and fall with the waves of time, as they fight for a past people see for the mistake it is, and betray most semblance to their old stances on the economic side.
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Postby Diopolis » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:45 pm

Arachkya wrote:
Diopolis wrote:It was struck down by their Supreme Court on a technicality and they reversed their ruling a year later, IIRC.

Oh, really? Damn.

Not an Indian or expert on Indian law, but my understanding is it was a legal technicality ruling of the sort that gets thrown out all the time.
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Postby Arachkya » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:46 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Arachkya wrote:Oh, really? Damn.

Not an Indian or expert on Indian law, but my understanding is it was a legal technicality ruling of the sort that gets thrown out all the time.

Ah, I see, awful.
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Postby San Montalbano » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:50 pm

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Diopolis wrote:Not an Indian or expert on Indian law, but my understanding is it was a legal technicality ruling of the sort that gets thrown out all the time.

Ah, I see, awful.


You see nothing

I would bet money you only hated Russia because of some left wing professor or media outlet told you too.

I dont agree with russian anti-gay propaganda either, but your immediate advocation to “wipe them off the map” tells me everything.
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Postby Arachkya » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:53 pm

San Montalbano wrote:
Arachkya wrote:Ah, I see, awful.


You see nothing

I would bet money you only hated Russia because of some left wing professor or media outlet told you too.

I dont agree with russian anti-gay propaganda either, but your immediate advocation to “wipe them off the map” tells me everything.

Just saying the country needs a regime change. :)

But it was a poor choice of words on my part.

And nobody told me, my country does not even have a ''left wing media outlet''....
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Postby Christian Confederation » Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:11 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Arachkya wrote:Just nuke it.


And then we'll take back the colonies.

Who knows, China and Russia might get something out of it too.

China would probably take all our Pacific land and Russia would probably just invade Europe.
Alaska would probably just say "Fu*k it!" Then Join Canada.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:13 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
And then we'll take back the colonies.

Who knows, China and Russia might get something out of it too.

China would probably take all our Pacific land and Russia would probably just invade Europe.
Alaska would probably just say "Fu*k it!" Then Join Canada.

Pacific land? Like ... Guam? Wake? Midway?
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Postby Diopolis » Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:13 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
And then we'll take back the colonies.

Who knows, China and Russia might get something out of it too.

China would probably take all our Pacific land and Russia would probably just invade Europe.
Alaska would probably just say "Fu*k it!" Then Join Canada.

Doubtful. Alaska would become an independent oil state.
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Postby Gagium » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:43 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:China would probably take all our Pacific land and Russia would probably just invade Europe.
Alaska would probably just say "Fu*k it!" Then Join Canada.

Doubtful. Alaska would become an independent oil state.

How would Alaska have the means to remain independent with all that oil and none of that population other nations have?
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Postby Christian Confederation » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:20 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:China would probably take all our Pacific land and Russia would probably just invade Europe.
Alaska would probably just say "Fu*k it!" Then Join Canada.

Pacific land? Like ... Guam? Wake? Midway?

Yup, plus Hawaii.
The Koreas would be at war in a second.

But yeah Alaska would likely join Canada because A: there population is small, and B: Canada is closer than the other states
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:23 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Pacific land? Like ... Guam? Wake? Midway?

Yup, plus Hawaii.
The Koreas would be at war in a second.

But yeah Alaska would likely join Canada because A: there population is small, and B: Canada is closer than the other states

Plus Hawaii, uh huh. Maybe, but it would depend on how fractured the US is. Unless the place is burning down, we'd defend Hawaii. Ain't nobody getting their hands on our macadamia nuts!
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Postby Mushet » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:33 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Mushet wrote:This map comes to mind more than talk of dividing along the lines of the pre-eminent big tent political parties.


Gold Tier: El Norte, First Nation, and The Far West

This map is fucking ridiculous. You're telling me that rural communities in California and New York have more in common with LA and NYC than hey do with rural communities in the rest of the country, and vice versa? I'm calling bull.

That's an odd interpretation of a map with a relative few Californian communities in the same group as Los Angeles and little to none grouped with New York City. It groups it by counties which can have a lot of variety, but it's more of a big picture sort of ordeal.
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Postby Christian Confederation » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:03 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Yup, plus Hawaii.
The Koreas would be at war in a second.

But yeah Alaska would likely join Canada because A: there population is small, and B: Canada is closer than the other states

Plus Hawaii, uh huh. Maybe, but it would depend on how fractured the US is. Unless the place is burning down, we'd defend Hawaii. Ain't nobody getting their hands on our macadamia nuts!

Well I sure as hell would be to busy establishing the southern nation.
Only help I'd give Hawaii is keeping them free of Chinese occupation
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Postby Deacarsia » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:13 pm

Klorgia1 wrote:Political division in Democracy is natural. Donald is a step into insanity, as is the populist reactionaryism of the Republicans, but he's not fundamentally dangerous enough that he could destroy the country; how much of the Republican policies now will be the status quo in 2022? 2024? 2207-8-9?

Its the nature of Right-wing Reactionaryism to gain a high tide and fall with the waves of time, as they fight for a past people see for the mistake it is, and betray most semblance to their old stances on the economic side.

Yeah, no.

President Trump is a step into sanity, as is the populist nationalism of the Republicans, but he may not be fundamentally conservative enough to fix the country, though he certainly is a step in the right direction. How much of the Democrat policies left will be the status quo in 2022? 2024? 2208?

It is the nature of left-wing radicalism to destroy itself, as the previous generation of revolutionaries are destroyed by the new generation, as the revolution always devours its own children.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:22 pm

Deacarsia wrote:Yeah, no.

President Trump is a step into sanity,
The sanity of Hannibal Lecter, perhaps.
as is the populist nationalism of the Republicans,
Naaah.
but he may not be fundamentally conservative enough to fix the country,

>Conservative
>Fixing the country

Well those two things are diametrically opposed.
though he certainly is a step in the right direction.
Off a cliff, sure.
How much of the Democrat policies left will be the status quo in 2022? 2024? 2208?
I’m not sure what this is supposed to mean.
It is the nature of left-wing radicalism to destroy itself, as the previous generation of revolutionaries are destroyed by the new generation, as the revolution always devours its own children.

The very fact that healthcare for all is considered “radically left-wing” or revolutionary shows how twisted to the right America is.
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Postby San Montalbano » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:29 pm

Kowani wrote:
Deacarsia wrote:Yeah, no.

President Trump is a step into sanity,
The sanity of Hannibal Lecter, perhaps.
as is the populist nationalism of the Republicans,
Naaah.
but he may not be fundamentally conservative enough to fix the country,

>Conservative
>Fixing the country

Well those two things are diametrically opposed.
though he certainly is a step in the right direction.
Off a cliff, sure.
How much of the Democrat policies left will be the status quo in 2022? 2024? 2208?
I’m not sure what this is supposed to mean.
It is the nature of left-wing radicalism to destroy itself, as the previous generation of revolutionaries are destroyed by the new generation, as the revolution always devours its own children.

The very fact that healthcare for all is considered “radically left-wing” or revolutionary shows how twisted to the right America is.


This is hilarious “ radically left wing”

Yeah like how people on nationstates think the pledge of the allegiance is fascistic :roll: though?
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:30 pm

Mushet wrote:
Sovaal wrote:This map is fucking ridiculous. You're telling me that rural communities in California and New York have more in common with LA and NYC than hey do with rural communities in the rest of the country, and vice versa? I'm calling bull.

That's an odd interpretation of a map with a relative few Californian communities in the same group as Los Angeles and little to none grouped with New York City. It groups it by counties which can have a lot of variety, but it's more of a big picture sort of ordeal.

Doesn't change the core of my criticism. yes, there's regional differences between Americans, but that's true of all people groups and it's not particularly great compared to those in the rest of the world.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:32 pm

Mushet wrote:This map comes to mind more than talk of dividing along the lines of the pre-eminent big tent political parties.


Gold Tier: El Norte, First Nation, and The Far West


Ignoring the bordergore, those boundaries don't really come close to mapping the different geographic spreads of North America's various cultural groups.

In fact, this map looks like someone just took the cultural boundaries of America in 1790 and extrapolated them to the present.

Besides, Yankeedom doesn't really exist anymore because there are barely any Yankees :(
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Postby Kowani » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:34 pm

San Montalbano wrote:This is hilarious “ radically left wing”

Yeah like how people on nationstates think the pledge of the allegiance is fascistic :roll: though?

Context reading. Try it.
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