MAGAThread XVII: All Things NOT Impeachment

[Greater Miami Shores]

A Plausible Path to Removing Trump From Office?

So basically, while Republicans can write the rules in the Senate, apparently three could defect and demand for a secret vote. This is highly improbable but I do think that the likes of Romney, Murkowski, and Collins could break Republicans in calling in witnesses and ensuring there are fairer rules and process in place (lead by example as they say). The thing is, the VP wouldn't get to vote so that means Republicans can't afford to lose three votes (Democrats have 45; Republicans 53; Independents 2). I'm hoping those Senators ensure McConnell and Graham don't ruin the process.

While their are no fair rules in the house for Republicans from the Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff, how convenient for the Democrats against President Trump.

Lets all hope independent voters and the American People see through the Democrats Kangaroo court trial of President Trump and read between their political lines.

[Vassenor]

A Plausible Path to Removing Trump From Office?

So basically, while Republicans can write the rules in the Senate, apparently three could defect and demand for a secret vote. This is highly improbable but I do think that the likes of Romney, Murkowski, and Collins could break Republicans in calling in witnesses and ensuring there are fairer rules and process in place (lead by example as they say). The thing is, the VP wouldn't get to vote so that means Republicans can't afford to lose three votes (Democrats have 45; Republicans 53; Independents 2). I'm hoping those Senators ensure McConnell and Graham don't ruin the process.

While their are no fair rules in the house for Republicans from the Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff, how convenient for the Democrats against President Trump.

Lets all hope independent voters and the American People see through the Democrats Kangaroo court trial of President Trump and read between their political lines.

So why do 49% of the US population support the impeachment?

[Gormwood]

While their are no fair rules in the house for Republicans from the Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff, how convenient for the Democrats against President Trump.

Lets all hope independent voters and the American People see through the Democrats Kangaroo court trial of President Trump and read between their political lines.

So why do 49% of the US population support the impeachment?

They're all Democrats and NeverTrumpers, silly.

[Spirit of Hope]

A Plausible Path to Removing Trump From Office?

So basically, while Republicans can write the rules in the Senate, apparently three could defect and demand for a secret vote. This is highly improbable but I do think that the likes of Romney, Murkowski, and Collins could break Republicans in calling in witnesses and ensuring there are fairer rules and process in place (lead by example as they say). The thing is, the VP wouldn't get to vote so that means Republicans can't afford to lose three votes (Democrats have 45; Republicans 53; Independents 2). I'm hoping those Senators ensure McConnell and Graham don't ruin the process.

While their are no fair rules in the house for Republicans from the Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff, how convenient for the Democrats against President Trump.

Lets all hope independent voters and the American People see through the Democrats Kangaroo court trial of President Trump and read between their political lines.

It's so unfair that they are following the rules from previous impeachment inquiries, where Republicans can ask the witnesses questions, Republicans can call witnesses, and the President can have a representative present present during questioning. Don't forget it is all going to be televised live. What a kangaroo investigation!

[Greater Miami Shores]

If you want I can begin to spoiler my replies to them.

Yes, please and thank you.

Funny Gravlen, I have no Problems with the leftists on NS strongly attacking President Trump. The Problem of the leftists with me seems to only be on the Trump issues, what a coincidence. Not even on my anti Cuban government threads and posts with my nation of NS Miami. My Pet issue on NS for obvious reasons. You all know very well is also my nation. The same flag, similar posting style and so on. At least I don't place any nation on the foe list or ignore list as I call it. I don't make fun of the leftists posts strongly attacking President Trump. Like many here do to me and to each other on my posts. Then deny they do anything at all.

I have to be even more dumb and stupid than I am to want to use any of my over 153 plus nations to try and evade a foe list or ignore list as I call it. To use 153 nations to post with on all general threads, and get banned from NS which I love and we all love.

But the Moderators are right I did a foolish thing by posting with all my main nations on this thread the first time. Because I wanted those nations to have a connection to this thread. Not to evade any fore list or ignore list as I call it. But it was a dumb foolish thing I did on my part. It makes it harder for me to review my posts on this thread.

The second time was an honest mistake on my part. As I proved to the moderators with my communication with one of the moderators and my apologies to the moderators. Their was no need to report me at least the second time. It was an honest mistake on my part.

[Zurkerx]

A Plausible Path to Removing Trump From Office?

So basically, while Republicans can write the rules in the Senate, apparently three could defect and demand for a secret vote. This is highly improbable but I do think that the likes of Romney, Murkowski, and Collins could break Republicans in calling in witnesses and ensuring there are fairer rules and process in place (lead by example as they say). The thing is, the VP wouldn't get to vote so that means Republicans can't afford to lose three votes (Democrats have 45; Republicans 53; Independents 2). I'm hoping those Senators ensure McConnell and Graham don't ruin the process.

While their are no fair rules in the house for Republicans from the Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff, how convenient for the Democrats against President Trump.

Lets all hope independent voters and the American People see through the Democrats Kangaroo court trial of President Trump and read between their political lines.

Apparently you missed the Memo, aka Resolution, that does give fair rules to Republicans, almost the same exact rules used in the impeachment inquiries for Nixon and Clinton. As Hope put it:

It's so unfair that they are following the rules from previous impeachment inquiries, where Republicans can ask the witnesses questions, Republicans can call witnesses, and the President can have a representative present present during questioning. Don't forget it is all going to be televised live. What a kangaroo investigation!

[Greater Miami Shores]

While their are no fair rules in the house for Republicans from the Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff, how convenient for the Democrats against President Trump.

Lets all hope independent voters and the American People see through the Democrats Kangaroo court trial of President Trump and read between their political lines.

Apparently you missed the Memo, aka Resolution, that does give fair rules to Republicans, almost the same exact rules used in the impeachment inquiries for Nixon and Clinton. As Hope put it:

It's so unfair that they are following the rules from previous impeachment inquiries, where Republicans can ask the witnesses questions, Republicans can call witnesses, and the President can have a representative present present during questioning. Don't forget it is all going to be televised live. What a kangaroo investigation!

My main problem with these so called fair rules is this:
The resolution also gives the top Republican on the committee, ranking member Devin Nunes, the ability to submit requests for witnesses with "a detailed written justification of the relevance of the testimony" by each witness. Schiff would be able to decline Nunes' request, with Nunes able to refer the request to the full committee for a vote.

You all know very well the Democrats have a majority on the committee and can block any witnesses the Republicans wish to call in defense of President Trump, and will do so lets not deny it.

So no I did not miss the memo or anything.
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The White House is barred from participating at all, until after Chairman Schiff conducts two rounds of one-sided hearings to generate a biased report for the Judiciary Committee. Even then, the White House's rights remain undefined, unclear, and uncertain – because those rules still haven't been written," press secretary Stephanie Grisham said in a statement.
"This resolution does nothing to change the fundamental fact that House Democrats refuse to provide basic due process rights to the Administration," she added.

[Greater Miami Shores]

While their are no fair rules in the house for Republicans from the Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff, how convenient for the Democrats against President Trump.

Lets all hope independent voters and the American People see through the Democrats Kangaroo court trial of President Trump and read between their political lines.

It's so unfair that they are following the rules from previous impeachment inquiries, where Republicans can ask the witnesses questions, Republicans can call witnesses, and the President can have a representative present present during questioning. Don't forget it is all going to be televised live. What a kangaroo investigation!

Again I have no choice but to repeat myself, similar to when the Democrats tried to ruin Judge Kavanaugh reputation and high qualifications as a US Supreme Court Justice and Justice Brett Kavanaugh won. For which we went through NS World War 3 on the Kavanaugh hearings Maga Thread. I know I just had to repeat myself in similar words.

I cant help it I have a mind like a stuck computer.

[Gormwood]

It's cute when people try to explain facts to someone who hardwired himself to believe the inquiry is a partisan attempt to depose Trump despite using using the Exact Same Rules as back when Clinton was impeached for lying about a blowjob.

[Zurkerx]

Apparently you missed the Memo, aka Resolution, that does give fair rules to Republicans, almost the same exact rules used in the impeachment inquiries for Nixon and Clinton. As Hope put it:

My main problem with these so called fair rules is this:
The resolution also gives the top Republican on the committee, ranking member Devin Nunes, the ability to submit requests for witnesses with "a detailed written justification of the relevance of the testimony" by each witness. Schiff would be able to decline Nunes' request, with Nunes able to refer the request to the full committee for a vote.

You all know very well the Democrats have a majority on the committee and can block any witnesses the Republicans wish to call in defense of President Trump, and will do so lets not deny it.

So no I did not miss the memo or anything.
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The White House is barred from participating at all, until after Chairman Schiff conducts two rounds of one-sided hearings to generate a biased report for the Judiciary Committee. Even then, the White House's rights remain undefined, unclear, and uncertain – because those rules still haven't been written," press secretary Stephanie Grisham said in a statement.
"This resolution does nothing to change the fundamental fact that House Democrats refuse to provide basic due process rights to the Administration," she added.

And? Republicans did it to Democrats in Clinton's Impeachment. I didn't hear Republicans bitch then about the process they made and Democrats then borrowed for Trump's. And the hearings aren't one sided since as the Resolution points, Republicans will have equal amounts of time questioning witnesses in a public setting. And your so-called witnesses have no relevance to the investigation: how does the likes of the Ohrs have anything to do with the impeachment? They don't: it's Republicans attempts to distract and make the investigation more complex because Republicans can't counter the abundance of evidence coming out and are cowards to hold the President accountable. At this point, all I'm hearing is excuses that have lost their flames.

The Democrats could have easily push out Republicans and not allowed them to be involved and made the setting completely private. But they didn't. The fact that Democrats are making this public shows they are confident with the evidence gathered.

[Spirit of Hope]

Apparently you missed the Memo, aka Resolution, that does give fair rules to Republicans, almost the same exact rules used in the impeachment inquiries for Nixon and Clinton. As Hope put it:

My main problem with these so called fair rules is this:
The resolution also gives the top Republican on the committee, ranking member Devin Nunes, the ability to submit requests for witnesses with "a detailed written justification of the relevance of the testimony" by each witness. Schiff would be able to decline Nunes' request, with Nunes able to refer the request to the full committee for a vote.

You all know very well the Democrats have a majority on the committee and can block any witnesses the Republicans wish to call in defense of President Trump, and will do so lets not deny it.

So no I did not miss the memo or anything.
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The White House is barred from participating at all, until after Chairman Schiff conducts two rounds of one-sided hearings to generate a biased report for the Judiciary Committee. Even then, the White House's rights remain undefined, unclear, and uncertain – because those rules still haven't been written," press secretary Stephanie Grisham said in a statement.
"This resolution does nothing to change the fundamental fact that House Democrats refuse to provide basic due process rights to the Administration," she added.

This is the same rules that happened during previous impeachment inquiries, so suddenly they are unfair when you are subject to them.

Also you are complaining about something that hasn't happened yet, the Democrats might block witnesses you want to call. You are also ignoring the fact that President Trump is trying to do the same thing, deny witnesses from appearing to the congressional committee, by ordering members of the Administration not to appear. Which a judge has ruled he can't do.

This also ignores that this is an investigation, in a normal criminal investigation the defendant doesn't get any say or look at what the investigators are doing. But President Trump will get the investigation on TV, and have people on his side ask questions.

[Vassenor]

It's so unfair that they are following the rules from previous impeachment inquiries, where Republicans can ask the witnesses questions, Republicans can call witnesses, and the President can have a representative present present during questioning. Don't forget it is all going to be televised live. What a kangaroo investigation!

Again I have no choice but to repeat myself, similar to when the Democrats tried to ruin Judge Kavanaugh reputation and high qualifications as a US Supreme Court Justice and Justice Brett Kavanaugh won. For which we went through NS World War 3 on the Kavanaugh hearings Maga Thread. I know I just had to repeat myself in similar words.

I cant help it I have a mind like a stuck computer.

Yes we get it, how dare the Democrats actually ask questions of Kavanaugh rather than just rubber stamping his appointment.

[Greater Miami Shores]

It's cute when people try to explain facts to someone who hardwired himself to believe the inquiry is a partisan attempt to depose Trump despite using using the Exact Same Rules as back when Clinton was impeached for lying about a blowjob.

Oh my bad Gormwood, by your logics it is just a coincidence they hate President Trump since the first day of the 2016 election results and even before the 2016 election results.

It is just a coincidence their were impeach Trump sings on the first day of the 2016 election results. All of you please read the Article by Politico a trusted leftist news source:
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/ ... -us-231165

It is just a coincidence a certain nation posted to me, the difference is we have the truth on our side, when I find the link I will post it on this post with an edit.

It is just a coincidence all Democrats except 2 voted for the impeachment inquiry against president trump.

It was a just a coincidence Democrat Adam Schiff twisted President Trump's words against him on national TV and Video to make it sound worse.

It is just a coincidence leftists democrats and Never Trumpers on NS are against President Trump. Attack President Trump, use foul language, make fun of President Trump,

It is just coincidence certain leftist democrats and never Trumpers on NS, dismiss my comments, posts, right wing sources, left wing sources and videos as wrong based on facts, and defend their sources as right based on facts, based on their own facts. Make fun of my posts in Defense of President Trump with their posts to me and with their posts to each other, and deny they do anything at all. What a coincidences.

Back to First Base, I rest my case again.

[Vassenor]

It's cute when people try to explain facts to someone who hardwired himself to believe the inquiry is a partisan attempt to depose Trump despite using using the Exact Same Rules as back when Clinton was impeached for lying about a blowjob.

Oh my bad Gormwood, by your logics it is just a coincidence they hate President Trump since the first day of the 2016 election results and even before the 2016 election results.

It is just a coincidence their were impeach Trump sings on the first day of the 2016 election results. All of you read the Article by Politico a trusted leftist news source:
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/ ... -us-231165

It is just a coincidence a certain nation posted to me, the difference is we have the truth on our side, when I find the link I will post it on this post with an edit.

It is just a coincidence all Democrats except 2 voted for the impeachment inquiry against president trump.

It was a just a coincidence Democrat Adam Schiff twisted President Trump's words against him on national TV and Video to make it sound worse.

It is just a coincidence leftists democrats and Never Trumpers on NS are against President Trump. Attack President Trump, use foul language, make fun of President Trump,

It is just coincidence certain leftist democrats and never Trumpers on NS, dismiss my comments, posts, right wing sources, left wing sources and videos as wrong based on facts, and defend their sources as right based on facts, based on their own facts. Make fun of my posts in Defense of President Trump with their posts to me and with their posts to each other, and deny they do anything at all. What a coincidences.

Back to First Base, I rest my case again.

It is just a coincidence that a majority of independent voters support the impeachment.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Oh my bad Gormwood, by your logics it is just a coincidence they hate President Trump since the first day of the 2016 election results and even before the 2016 election results.

It is just a coincidence their were impeach Trump sings on the first day of the 2016 election results. All of you read the Article by Politico a trusted leftist news source:
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/ ... -us-231165

It is just a coincidence a certain nation posted to me, the difference is we have the truth on our side, when I find the link I will post it on this post with an edit.

It is just a coincidence all Democrats except 2 voted for the impeachment inquiry against president trump.

It was a just a coincidence Democrat Adam Schiff twisted President Trump's words against him on national TV and Video to make it sound worse.

It is just a coincidence leftists democrats and Never Trumpers on NS are against President Trump. Attack President Trump, use foul language, make fun of President Trump,

It is just coincidence certain leftist democrats and never Trumpers on NS, dismiss my comments, posts, right wing sources, left wing sources and videos as wrong based on facts, and defend their sources as right based on facts, based on their own facts. Make fun of my posts in Defense of President Trump with their posts to me and with their posts to each other, and deny they do anything at all. What a coincidences.

Back to First Base, I rest my case again.

It is just a coincidence that a majority of independent voters support the impeachment.

Bad try vassenor. re read my post above all of you. If this is the case and I don't doubt your word in this case. I have seen the same polls you all have. Their is a considerable minority of those independent voters who don't support the impeachment or removal of President Trump. Lets not keep denying this is the Democrats main goal with these impeachment hearings to weaken President Trump politically during the election season with independent voters and the American people and perhaps have him convicted and removed from office. Which you all would love and would celebrate it on the forums, lets not deny this. I see you did not address any of my other comments on my post above, I am not surprised. Bad Try Vassenor.

[Zurkerx]

GOP to argue Trump's "state of mind" on impeachment; was exculpatory

Here are there four points:

"The July 25 call summary — the best evidence of the conversation — shows no conditionality or evidence of pressure."

Umm, I guess we should apparently ignore this part: The President: I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. Yeah no.

"President Zelensky and President Trump have both said there was no pressure on the call."

Despite the fact that the pressure came well before the Ukrainian President was sworn in.

"The Ukrainian government was not aware of a hold on U.S. security assistance at the time of the July 25 call."

This maybe correct, however, The Ukrainians knew no later than early August and the aid was put on hold in early July.

"President Trump met with President Zelensky and U.S. security assistance flowed to Ukraine in September 2019 — both of which occurred without Ukraine investigating President Trump's political rivals."

Even though the aid was released, it was done so because of pressure from US Officials to do so. Not to mention, I'm pretty sure attempting to commit a crime is considered a conspiracy to commit a crime, and a violation of campaign finance laws.

Memo Here.

[Vassenor]

It is just a coincidence that a majority of independent voters support the impeachment.

Bad try vassenor. re read my post above all of you. If this is the case and I don't doubt your word in this case. I have seen the same polls you all have. Their is a considerable minority of those independent voters who don't support the impeachment or removal of President Trump. Lets not keep denying this is the Democrats main goal with these impeachment hearings to weaken President Trump politically during the election season with independent voters and the American people and perhaps have him convicted and removed from office. Which you all would love and would celebrate it on the forums, lets not deny this. I see you did not address any of my other comments on my post above, I am not surprised. Bad Try Vassenor.

You mean like Hillary's Emails?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Many of the people in DACA, no longer very young, are far from “angels.” Some are very tough, hardened criminals. President Obama said he had no legal right to sign order, but would anyway. If Supreme Court remedies with overturn, a deal will be made with Dems for them to stay!

Such a telling piece of rhetoric. What we have here is:

DACA recipients are criminals .
Obama had no legal right to allow them to stay.
If the Supreme Court overturns, we will make a deal (and use them as bargaining chip) with the democrats.
That deal will allow them to stay.

[Gormwood]

Many of the people in DACA, no longer very young, are far from “angels.” Some are very tough, hardened criminals. President Obama said he had no legal right to sign order, but would anyway. If Supreme Court remedies with overturn, a deal will be made with Dems for them to stay!

Such a telling piece of rhetoric. What we have here is:

DACA recipients are criminals .
Obama had no legal right to allow them to stay.
If the Supreme Court overturns, we will make a deal (and use them as bargaining chip) with the democrats.
That deal will allow them to stay.

He's a sociopath. Deporting people to a country they were not born in, much less never had a childhood in and may even have no grasp of the native language is malice. Plus he made it clear he only wants it upheld so he can extort concessions from the Democrats like they were all Zelenskys.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Many of the people in DACA, no longer very young, are far from “angels.” Some are very tough, hardened criminals. President Obama said he had no legal right to sign order, but would anyway. If Supreme Court remedies with overturn, a deal will be made with Dems for them to stay!

Such a telling piece of rhetoric. What we have here is:

DACA recipients are criminals .
Obama had no legal right to allow them to stay.
If the Supreme Court overturns, we will make a deal (and use them as bargaining chip) with the democrats.
That deal will allow them to stay.

Who Posted this Post above? I always post - posted by. I also think Obama had no right to allow them to stay. Politics is about opposition and deals between both political parties and all political parties. Which President Trump, Republicans and I are apposed to. But I would not mind some kind of political deal on if Possible.

Source Wikipedia Article.
Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) is an American immigration policy that allows some individuals with unlawful presence in the United States after being brought to the country as children to receive a renewable two-year period of deferred action from deportation and become eligible for a work permit in the U.S. To be eligible for the program, recipients cannot have felonies or serious misdemeanors on their records. Unlike the proposed DREAM Act, DACA does not provide a path to citizenship for recipients, known as Dreamers.[1][2] The policy, an executive branch memorandum, was announced by President Barack Obama on June 15, 2012. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) began accepting applications for the program on August 15, 2012.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_ ... d_Arrivals

[Greater Miami Shores]

Such a telling piece of rhetoric. What we have here is:

DACA recipients are criminals .
Obama had no legal right to allow them to stay.
If the Supreme Court overturns, we will make a deal (and use them as bargaining chip) with the democrats.
That deal will allow them to stay.

He's a sociopath. Deporting people to a country they were not born in, much less never had a childhood in and may even have no grasp of the native language is malice. Plus he made it clear he only wants it upheld so he can extort concessions from the Democrats like they were all Zelenskys.

Gormwood President Donald J Trump of The United States of America - The USA is not a sociopath. I know and I understand you and many of your leftist friends don't like or hate President Trump, and their is nothing wrong with that from your personal perspectives and your politicals perspectives. But President Trump is not a sociopath. These are your views and opinions of many of your leftists friends, not your facts, your opinions.

Many persons disagree with your views on DACA, President Trump, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky and Trump Ukraine Gate, not your facts, your opinions.

Read my post above from the link provided on this post:

viewtopic.php?p=36427815#p36427815

[San Lumen]

Such a telling piece of rhetoric. What we have here is:

DACA recipients are criminals .
Obama had no legal right to allow them to stay.
If the Supreme Court overturns, we will make a deal (and use them as bargaining chip) with the democrats.
That deal will allow them to stay.

He's a sociopath. Deporting people to a country they were not born in, much less never had a childhood in and may even have no grasp of the native language is malice. Plus he made it clear he only wants it upheld so he can extort concessions from the Democrats like they were all Zelenskys.

When has he ever shown compassion. He espouses racial charged and white supremacist dogma so it makes sense he wants to deport people back to countries they'd be totally lost in. People can say all they want Trump is not a racist. His actions and words speak for themselves.

[The Rich Port]

I'm certain that is not a thing.

Pretty sure that was a joke.

Was it though. Feel it in your gut and feel nauseated.

In other news, the Trump Baby assassin has been released on an $2500 bond. He was triggered by the balloon, and therefore felt the need to commit heinous property damage. What an amazing argument. I'm sure that'll go great in court for his felony mischief charge.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... tta-take-a

Man, and I thought the GoFundMe page for Digital Homicide was a scam.

[Professor Irwin Corey]

Pretty sure that was a joke.

Was it though. Feel it in your gut and feel nauseated.

In other news, the Trump Baby assassin has been released on an $2500 bond. He was triggered by the balloon, and therefore felt the need to commit heinous property damage. What an amazing argument. I'm sure that'll go great in court for his felony mischief charge.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... tta-take-a

Man, and I thought the GoFundMe page for Digital Homicide was a scam.

Twinkie defense had more filling.

[Nakena]

tfw when no needle gun.