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Who do you think had the best performance at tonight’s debate?

Bernie
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62%
Buttigieg
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11%
Warren
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10%
Biden
5
5%
Steyer
4
4%
Klobuchar
8
8%
 
Total votes : 105
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:07 pm

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Aureumterra wrote:Seems like he entered just to troll Bernie

The amount of troll or otherwise non-serious candidates is astounding. If you truly want to make a change, run for a representative or a senate position. 20 presidential candidates can't all be the president.

And as Obama and the impeachment inquiry shows, being President doesn't mean much if the Senate belongs to the other side.
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:02 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Seems like he entered just to troll Bernie

The amount of troll or otherwise non-serious candidates is astounding. If you truly want to make a change, run for a representative or a senate position. 20 presidential candidates can't all be the president.

Castro seems pretty firm and serious, he just had really bad luck. I guess you need to be a populist in order to succeed in this day and age
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:19 pm



Another self righteous billionaire in the race, joy.
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Postby The South Falls » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:29 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:


Another self righteous billionaire in the race, joy.

He's going to be out in three months.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:31 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Another self righteous billionaire in the race, joy.

He's going to be out in three months.


I wouldn't be so sure, if only because he has a lot of money to try and keep himself in.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:32 pm


Watch how much the billionaires spend on desperately trying to thwart anyone who might even slightly increase their taxes.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:39 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The South Falls wrote:He's going to be out in three months.


I wouldn't be so sure, if only because he has a lot of money to try and keep himself in.


What-his-name the Starbucks CEO had that going for him too, but look where he is now.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:49 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I wouldn't be so sure, if only because he has a lot of money to try and keep himself in.


What-his-name the Starbucks CEO had that going for him too, but look where he is now.


He never even entered the race, no?
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:51 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
What-his-name the Starbucks CEO had that going for him too, but look where he is now.


He never even entered the race, no?


I don't remember, which is kinda the point.
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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:52 pm



He won't go anywhere. I understand how he feels though: he senses the current crop of Democrats aren't good enough. But if I recall, Democrats and Republicans don't like him due to his views.

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Valrifell wrote:
What-his-name the Starbucks CEO had that going for him too, but look where he is now.


He never even entered the race, no?


He didn't. He abandoned that run a couple months ago.
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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:36 pm

Just read that Gabbard made the next debate. Bleah. :roll:

Why can't she just go away?
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Postby Kowani » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:57 pm

USS Monitor wrote:Just read that Gabbard made the next debate. Bleah. :roll:

Why can't she just go away?

It’s all or nothing for her, now.
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Postby NS Miami » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:58 pm

USS Monitor wrote:Just read that Gabbard made the next debate. Bleah. :roll:

Why can't she just go away?

It is called democracy in America - The USA.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:05 pm

USS Monitor wrote:Just read that Gabbard made the next debate. Bleah. :roll:

Why can't she just go away?

Anyone not polling in the double digits at this point in at least the early states is just window dressing.
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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:09 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:Just read that Gabbard made the next debate. Bleah. :roll:

Why can't she just go away?

Anyone not polling in the double digits at this point in at least the early states is just window dressing.


That why she should go away and stop wasting airtime.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:21 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Anyone not polling in the double digits at this point in at least the early states is just window dressing.


That why she should go away and stop wasting airtime.

Lotta people running out the clock.
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Postby Idzequitch » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:25 pm

Kowani wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:Just read that Gabbard made the next debate. Bleah. :roll:

Why can't she just go away?

It’s all or nothing for her, now.

It is and always has been nothing though.

Honestly I think the November debate may be a waste of time. Don't get me wrong, something interesting could happen. But I think the December debate is the one to watch. I'm all for inclusion, but it's time things wittled down a bit and I'm looking forward to a less crowded stage. I'm surprised Klobuchar made it to that one, but I don't really mind.
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Postby Idzequitch » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:27 pm

NS Miami wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:Just read that Gabbard made the next debate. Bleah. :roll:

Why can't she just go away?

It is called democracy in America - The USA.

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Wishing a candidate would go away and actively opposing the democratic process are two very different things.
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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:34 pm

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Kowani wrote:It’s all or nothing for her, now.

It is and always has been nothing though.

Honestly I think the November debate may be a waste of time. Don't get me wrong, something interesting could happen. But I think the December debate is the one to watch. I'm all for inclusion, but it's time things wittled down a bit and I'm looking forward to a less crowded stage. I'm surprised Klobuchar made it to that one, but I don't really mind.


Klobuchar is unlikely to get the nomination, and isn't my first choice -- but I think she has more to offer than Gabbard and she's less obnoxious.
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Postby NS Miami » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:41 pm

Idzequitch wrote:
NS Miami wrote:It is called democracy in America - The USA.

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Wishing a candidate would go away and actively opposing the democratic process are two very different things.

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USS Monitor asked and stated, Why doesn't she go away?
So I stated , It is called democracy in America - The USA
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She doesn't go away, because it is democracy in America - The USA.
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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:54 pm

NS Miami wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:Wishing a candidate would go away and actively opposing the democratic process are two very different things.

Idz:
USS Monitor asked and stated, Why doesn't she go away?
So I stated , It is called democracy in America - The USA
A Perfect response statement to the question - Why doesn't she go away?
She doesn't go away, because it is democracy in America - The USA.


That explains why she isn't legally required to go away. It doesn't explain why she won't do it voluntarily.
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To Create 'Welcoming and Safe Nation for All,' Sanders Immigration Plan Would End Family Separations, Break Up ICE, and Tackle Root Causes
The Vermont senator's plan—which he described as "the most progressive immigration proposal put forth in presidential history"—also calls for:

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Ending the separation of families; and
Bolstering immigrant worker protections by ending workplace raids and enacting a "Domestic Workers Bill of Rights" that would include at least a $15 minimum wage and collective bargaining protections.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:52 am

Proposing to break up CBP is offensively stupid lol. That's Trump tier, what the hell Bernie.
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Postby True Refuge » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:13 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Proposing to break up CBP is offensively stupid lol. That's Trump tier, what the hell Bernie.


It’s such a misstep. Breaking up CBP feeds into the narrative that the spooky left want open borders no matter what nuance there is in that policy.
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Postby True Refuge » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:16 am

Sanders’ actual comment on breaking up ICE and CBP is:

Completely reshape and reform our immigration enforcement system, including breaking up ICE and CBP and redistributing their functions to their proper authorities.


That’s reassuring, but it needs a lot more detail before it’s a supportable policy.
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