MAGAThread XVII: All Things NOT Impeachment

[Vassenor]

The fuck.

That wasn't written by me. It was by Emerald, but yes, quite absurd.

Yeah I made a mess of cleaning up the quote tags.

[The Emerald Legion]

No. No I don't know that. I don't know what exactly their end goal is, but I do know it requires me to be disarmed. I know that they favor police brutality and the quashing of political opponents via that brutality. I know they favor making other opinions illegal.

In short, I know they support a Dictatorship and have no reason to expect they want it for any good reason.

You're like what I imagine the Republicans are when I'm feeling particularly nasty.

That is to say you're acting like a caricature, which is mildly amusing but mostly scary.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/938988001

It's almost like there's a legitimate reason people are afraid of Democrats taking power.

This isn't to say every Democrat is bad. Most just don't realize what they're supporting.

[Jolthig]

No one is asking that your guns should be taken away.

lol Beto wanted to take our guns away and arms away.
At least our guns and arms are safe lol.

Not according to the Second Amendment of the context surrounding it. The guns mentioned there are for militias. It does not prove everyone has the right to own a gun. According to our penal code, Chapter 42, machine guns are banned.

[Proctopeo]

lol Beto wanted to take our guns away and arms away.
At least our guns and arms are safe lol.

Not according to the Second Amendment of the context surrounding it. The guns mentioned there are for militias. It does not prove everyone has the right to own a gun. According to our penal code, Chapter 42, machine guns are banned.

That's a fundamental misunderstanding of the second amendment.
Though I assume this is an honest mistake.

[Vassenor]

You're like what I imagine the Republicans are when I'm feeling particularly nasty.

That is to say you're acting like a caricature, which is mildly amusing but mostly scary.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/938988001

It's almost like there's a legitimate reason people are afraid of Democrats taking power.

This isn't to say every Democrat is bad. Most just don't realize what they're supporting.

So because of one OP-ed from two years ago the Democrats are evil and want to make it illegal to oppose them.

[Gormwood]

The Mueller investigation, while the media did try to get stories out of it, was mostly done quietly until the final report. This let the GOP and Trump run a narrative that the investigation can't have found anything or they'd have released it, blah blah nothingburger. This impeachment inquiry, on the other hand, can have news stories every week about a new person saying something damaging to Trump, potentially for months on end.

Hmm that is a good point though they should still try to avoid to make it too complex and divert off to other investigations. I think throughout 2020 we'll see more damaging revelations, including his tax returns and potential financial crimes the South District is investigating. After all, a President maybe immune to indictment but they're not immune to investigation, which Trump thinks he is.

Pelosi is in overall charge, and she was not thrilled to move with impeachment inquiry until evidence reached critical mass. She is devious when she needs to be.

[Jolthig]

Not according to the Second Amendment of the context surrounding it. The guns mentioned there are for militias. It does not prove everyone has the right to own a gun. According to our penal code, Chapter 42, machine guns are banned.

That's a fundamental misunderstanding of the second amendment.
Though I assume this is an honest mistake.

Please explain.

[The Emerald Legion]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/938988001

It's almost like there's a legitimate reason people are afraid of Democrats taking power.

This isn't to say every Democrat is bad. Most just don't realize what they're supporting.

So because of one OP-ed from two years ago the Democrats are evil and want to make it illegal to oppose them.

Because of literal SS style raids on conservatives throughout Wisconsin. Raids that increasingly Democrats support enabling on people who just happen to tend to be overwhelmingly conservative.

Raids that Democrats support making risk free by disarming the populace.

[NS Miami]

Hmm that is a good point though they should still try to avoid to make it too complex and divert off to other investigations. I think throughout 2020 we'll see more damaging revelations, including his tax returns and potential financial crimes the South District is investigating. After all, a President maybe immune to indictment but they're not immune to investigation, which Trump thinks he is.

Pelosi is in overall charge, and she was not thrilled to move with impeachment inquiry until evidence reached critical mass. She is devious when she needs to be.

Biased Partisan Democrat Adam Schiff is more devious than Nancy Pelosi. Twisted President Trumps words against him on national TV and Video to make it sound worse, to hurt President Trump politically. He is also overseeing the impeachment process against President Trump with unfair tactics. Lets not deny it.

[Vassenor]

That's a fundamental misunderstanding of the second amendment.
Though I assume this is an honest mistake.

Please explain.

We're not allowed to mention the "well regulated militia" bit. It's inconvenient.

[Sovaal]

Please explain.

We're not allowed to mention the "well regulated militia" bit. It's inconvenient.

You mean the groups of locals who often provided their own arms and ammunition?

[Gormwood]

So because of one OP-ed from two years ago the Democrats are evil and want to make it illegal to oppose them.

Because of literal SS style raids on conservatives throughout Wisconsin. Raids that increasingly Democrats support enabling on people who just happen to tend to be overwhelmingly conservative.

Raids that Democrats support making risk free by disarming the populace.

So policies you disagree with should be met with a volley of bullets. WOLVERIIIIIIIINES!!!

[The Emerald Legion]

Please explain.

We're not allowed to mention the "well regulated militia" bit. It's inconvenient.

Considering the Militia = The Entire Population of the US hence why you can be drafted....

[Proctopeo]

That's a fundamental misunderstanding of the second amendment.
Though I assume this is an honest mistake.

Please explain.

The short of it, is that militias are used as a justification for the people's right to keep and bear arms. Not the requirement.
"Militia" in this context is somewhat ambiguous, but it likely refers to the general populace. "Well-regulated" is often cited by people as a cheap gotcha, but, around the late 18th century, "well-regulated" simply meant "in working order". So, a functional militia composed of the armed population.

Please explain.

We're not allowed to mention the "well regulated militia" bit. It's inconvenient.

[Aclion]

That's a fundamental misunderstanding of the second amendment.
Though I assume this is an honest mistake.

Please explain.

This tired old exercise?

A well balanced breakfast, being necessary to a healthy lifestyle, the people's right to keep and drink orange juice shall not be infringed.

Who has a right to orange juice? A well balanced breakfast, or the people?

[Gormwood]

We're not allowed to mention the "well regulated militia" bit. It's inconvenient.

Considering the Militia = The Entire Population of the US hence why you can be drafted....

There is no draft right now.

[Nakena]

Little update on the poll:

We got total votes of 211 so far of whom 116 or 55% are in favor of a impeachment, removal and subsequent prosecution of Donald Trump. The next popular opinion with 38 votes and 18% of all is that he shouldn't be impeached as the impeachment inquiry is politically motivated.

With 24 votes or 11% the next option follows, suggesting that no impeachment being necessary as the 2020 elections are to resolve the matter.

With 211 votes the poll got already over twice as much votes as the previous one despite it only runs since a few days which might be related to an increasing interested in the thread topic due the impeachment procedures. With the choosen and most votes option being somewhat reflective of the strong partisan polarization, antipathy (or resolute support) surrounding Donald Trump.

If we add the 6% from the second impeachment option we get a 61% majority in favor of impeachment and removal from office.

[Aclion]

Considering the Militia = The Entire Population of the US hence why you can be drafted....

There is no draft right now.

Irrelevant.

[Sovaal]

Considering the Militia = The Entire Population of the US hence why you can be drafted....

There is no draft right now.

Still got to sign up for selective service in case if the draft is ever reinstated.

[Aclion]

Little update on the poll:

We got total votes of 211 so far of whom 116 or 55% are in favor of a impeachment, removal and subsequent prosecution of Donald Trump. The next popular opinion with 38 votes and 18% of all is that he shouldn't be impeached as the impeachment inquiry is politically motivated.

With 24 votes or 11% the next option follows, suggesting that no impeachment being necessary as the 2020 elections are to resolve the matter.

With 211 votes the poll got already over twice as much votes as the previous one. With the choosen and most votes option being somewhat reflective of the strong partisan polarization, antipathy (or resolute support) surrounding Donald Trump.

If we add the 6% from the second impeachment option we get a 61% majority in favor of impeachment and removal from office.

Which says a lot considering we're much more antitrump then the US house and still can't get the 2/3rd majority needed to impeach.

There is no draft right now.

Still got to sign up for selective service in case if the draft is ever reinstated.

And even if there were no draft that doesn't matter because the 2nd amendment doesn't say "potential conscripts" it says "the people".

[Gormwood]

Little update on the poll:

We got total votes of 211 so far of whom 116 or 55% are in favor of a impeachment, removal and subsequent prosecution of Donald Trump. The next popular opinion with 38 votes and 18% of all is that he shouldn't be impeached as the impeachment inquiry is politically motivated.

With 24 votes or 11% the next option follows, suggesting that no impeachment being necessary as the 2020 elections are to resolve the matter.

With 211 votes the poll got already over twice as much votes as the previous one. With the choosen and most votes option being somewhat reflective of the strong partisan polarization, antipathy (or resolute support) surrounding Donald Trump.

If we add the 6% from the second impeachment option we get a 61% majority in favor of impeachment and removal from office.

Which says a lot considering we're much more antitrump then the US house and still can't get the 2/3rd majority needed to impeach.

If only Republican Senators weren't so cowed by the MAGA crowd.

[NS Miami]

Except Trumps guilt as charged, tried and convicted by the Democrats.

Have I made any sense to you. Have I made any sense to any of you?

I rest my case again.

How democratic.

Just because trump is being investigated by a democrats doesn't necessarily mean that he didn't break the law. Biased groups can still produce truthful results. Also, how is accusing you of lying undemocratic, since I assume you were being sarcastic

lol I am not being sarcastic or a liar as Salandriagado says about my posts defending President Trump.

Posted by Salandriagado:
viewtopic.php?p=36410651#p36410651
But I am not offended read the rest of the post why I am not offended on the post below:

Like on this one:
viewtopic.php?p=36410716#p36410716

Except Trumps guilt as charged, tried and convicted by the Democrats.
Have I made any sense to you. Have I made any sense to any of you?
I rest my case again.

[Salandriagado]

We're not allowed to mention the "well regulated militia" bit. It's inconvenient.

Considering the Militia = The Entire Population of the US hence why you can be drafted....

This is a terrible approach to arguing your point. In particular, half of the population can't be drafted.

[San Lumen]

Just because trump is being investigated by a democrats doesn't necessarily mean that he didn't break the law. Biased groups can still produce truthful results. Also, how is accusing you of lying undemocratic, since I assume you were being sarcastic

lol I am not being sarcastic or a liar as Salandriagado says about my posts defending President Trump.

Like on this one:
viewtopic.php?p=36410716#p36410716

Except Trumps guilt as charged, tried and convicted by the Democrats.
Have I made any sense to you. Have I made any sense to any of you?
I rest my case again.

Thanks for yet again proving you have no argument whatsoever and would rather just rehash the same canned answer over and over again instead of providing evidence of perjury and falsified evidence.

[Vassenor]

Considering the Militia = The Entire Population of the US hence why you can be drafted....

This is a terrible approach to arguing your point. In particular, half of the population can't be drafted.

It's pretty exemplary of the mental gymnastics involved in the reaction whenever anyone suggests that the second amendment means something other than "anyone can own any gun ever".