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Which would be your favored candidate for the 2020 Republican Party presidential nomination?

Donald Trump
47
27%
Rocky De La Fuente
5
3%
Joe Walsh
4
2%
Bill Weld
23
13%
Bob Ely
0
No votes
Zoltan Istvan
6
3%
None of the above/other
30
17%
David Hasselhoff
58
34%
 
Total votes : 173

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Postby Miami Shores » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:39 pm

I think the public impeachment hearings by the biased Partisan Democrats against President Trump for political reasons are going to be similar to the Kavanaugh Kangaroo style court charges by the Democrats against Brett Kavanaugh and we are going to go through NS World War 4 on the Impeach Donnie magathreads, which we are actually going through right now.
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:43 pm

Miami Shores wrote:
The Rich Port wrote:
Holy fucking shit you're right.

I totally forgot.

When Scumbag Nixon is a better president than you... OOF.

Republican President Richard Nixon of The United States of America, despite Watergate was a great President.

Democrat President Bill Clinton was a good President.

Democrat Presidents Jimmy Carter and Obama are the worst Presidents ever.

Republican President Ronald Reagan of The United States of America, the original Make America Great Again President, is the greatest America President ever.

Republican President Donald J Trump of The United States of America, is the second greatest American President ever.


I agree. Note the similarities between Trump and Reagan: both are/were hated by the lib/dems, both inherited a cluster fuck from failed predecessors, both did/are doing a good job of fixing said cluster fuck.
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:44 pm

Autumn Wind wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:
Democrat Presidents Jimmy Carter and Obama are the worst Presidents ever.


How?

Buchanan left his first term in office with fewer states than when he started. By what objective standard are Carter and/or Obama worse than that?


They are the worst during my lifetime. I start counting with Carter. Prior to that I was too young to notice or care.
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:45 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:Republican President Richard Nixon of The United States of America, despite Watergate was a great President.

Democrat President Bill Clinton was a good President.

Democrat Presidents Jimmy Carter and Obama are the worst Presidents ever.

Republican President Ronald Reagan of The United States of America, the original Make America Great Again President, is the greatest America President ever.

Republican President Donald J Trump of The United States of America, is the second greatest American President ever.


I agree. Note the similarities between Trump and Reagan: both are/were hated by the lib/dems, both inherited a cluster fuck from failed predecessors, both did/are doing a good job of fixing said cluster fuck.

:rofl:
Please, do enlighten us on how Trump is fixing anything, let alone doing a good job at it.
You also act as though there aren't perfectly valid reasons for them to be hated, which is also blatant baloney.
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Postby Miami Shores » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:46 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
I agree. Note the similarities between Trump and Reagan: both are/were hated by the lib/dems, both inherited a cluster fuck from failed predecessors, both did/are doing a good job of fixing said cluster fuck.

:rofl:
Please, do enlighten us on how Trump is fixing anything, let alone doing a good job at it.

Awesome you are having a lol attack, :rofl:
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:49 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
I agree. Note the similarities between Trump and Reagan: both are/were hated by the lib/dems, both inherited a cluster fuck from failed predecessors, both did/are doing a good job of fixing said cluster fuck.

:rofl:
Please, do enlighten us on how Trump is fixing anything, let alone doing a good job at it.
You also act as though there aren't perfectly valid reasons for them to be hated, which is also blatant baloney.


The only real flaw in how Trump is doing is he didn't fight hard enough for the wall or to repeal Obamacare, and he isn't as good at protecting our second amendment rights as he led us to believe. Other than that, hes doing great.
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:51 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Necroghastia wrote: :rofl:
Please, do enlighten us on how Trump is fixing anything, let alone doing a good job at it.
You also act as though there aren't perfectly valid reasons for them to be hated, which is also blatant baloney.


The only real flaw in how Trump is doing is he didn't fight hard enough for the wall or to repeal Obamacare, and he isn't as good at protecting our second amendment rights as he led us to believe. Other than that, hes doing great.

What I'm getting out of this post is that you can't actually tell me how Trump is fixing anything, let alone doing a good job at it.
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Postby Miami Shores » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:52 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
The only real flaw in how Trump is doing is he didn't fight hard enough for the wall or to repeal Obamacare, and he isn't as good at protecting our second amendment rights as he led us to believe. Other than that, hes doing great.

What I'm getting out of this post is that you can't actually tell me how Trump is fixing anything, let alone doing a good job at it.

That is because you have different economic, political and social views.
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:57 pm

Miami Shores wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:What I'm getting out of this post is that you can't actually tell me how Trump is fixing anything, let alone doing a good job at it.

That is because you have different economic, political and social views.

Heck, not even that: Jim couldn't even point to any specifics in how Trump is doing good by his own standards.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:59 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
The only real flaw in how Trump is doing is he didn't fight hard enough for the wall or to repeal Obamacare, and he isn't as good at protecting our second amendment rights as he led us to believe. Other than that, hes doing great.

What I'm getting out of this post is that you can't actually tell me how Trump is fixing anything, let alone doing a good job at it.


Look, it's quite simple - Brown Man Bad, Orange Man Good.
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Postby Miami Shores » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:04 am

Necroghastia wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:That is because you have different economic, political and social views.

Heck, not even that: Jim couldn't even point to any specifics in how Trump is doing good by his own standards.

You still don't understand, you both have different, economic, political and social views.

It is called Politics.

You will never agree with me, You will never agree with him, and we will never agree with you.

Why because we all have different, economic, political and social views.

Their is nothing actually wrong with that, because that is called democracy in America, The USA.
lol - I am the worlds greatest insomniac, I beat the worlds record every day. I love math statistics and accounting my profession. Retired home bought and paid for, own 2 rental properties. Many vacations in Miami Beach hotels, Niagara Falls Canada, Puerto Rico, Puerto Plata and Punta Cana Dominican Republic. I am not rich but I am not poor, over all not bad. Proud conservative Republican native Cuban and American citizen supporter of President Trump. President Ronald Reagan the greatest American President of the USA ever and the original Make America Great Again President. President Trump the second greatest American President of the USA ever.

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Postby Miami Shores » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:07 am

Vassenor wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:What I'm getting out of this post is that you can't actually tell me how Trump is fixing anything, let alone doing a good job at it.


Look, it's quite simple - Brown Man Bad, Orange Man Good.

Don't you actually mean, Orange Man Bad, Democrats Good.
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Postby Necroghastia » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:14 am

Miami Shores wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Heck, not even that: Jim couldn't even point to any specifics in how Trump is doing good by his own standards.

You still don't understand, you both have different, economic, political and social views.

It is called Politics.

You will never agree with me, You will never agree with him, and we will never agree with you.

Why because we all have different, economic, political and social views.

Their is nothing actually wrong with that, because that is called democracy in America, The USA.

....Did you read Jim's post? Where did he say how Trump was doing a good job as president? What he had accomplished? Jim couldn't come up with anything even within his own standards.
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Postby Miami Shores » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:18 am

Necroghastia wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:You still don't understand, you both have different, economic, political and social views.

It is called Politics.

You will never agree with me, You will never agree with him, and we will never agree with you.

Why because we all have different, economic, political and social views.

Their is nothing actually wrong with that, because that is called democracy in America, The USA.

....Did you read Jim's post? Where did he say how Trump was doing a good job as president? What he had accomplished? Jim couldn't come up with anything even within his own standards.

On Trump, on the impeachment, on the economy, on the Republicans, on the social issues.

You still don't understand, you still don't get it.

You both have different, economic, political and social views.

It is called Politics.

You will never agree with me, You will never agree with him, and we will never agree with you.

Why because we all have different, economic, political and social views.

Their is nothing actually wrong with that, because that is called democracy in America - The USA.
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Postby Necroghastia » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:21 am

Miami Shores wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:....Did you read Jim's post? Where did he say how Trump was doing a good job as president? What he had accomplished? Jim couldn't come up with anything even within his own standards.

On Trump, on the impeachment, on the economy, on the Republicans, on the social issues.

You still don't understand, you still don't get it.

You both have different, economic, political and social views.

It is called Politics.

You will never agree with me, You will never agree with him, and we will never agree with you.

Why because we all have different, economic, political and social views.

Their is nothing actually wrong with that, because that is called democracy in America - The USA.

Dude. Read my posts.
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Postby Miami Shores » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:28 am

Necroghastia wrote:
Miami Shores wrote:On Trump, on the impeachment, on the economy, on the Republicans, on the social issues.

You still don't understand, you still don't get it.

You both have different, economic, political and social views.

It is called Politics.

You will never agree with me, You will never agree with him, and we will never agree with you.

Why because we all have different, economic, political and social views.

Their is nothing actually wrong with that, because that is called democracy in America - The USA.

Dude. Read my posts.

I have read your posts and Big Jim P s' Posts, you still don't get it. You still don't understand, I will try again a different way.

I have come to the conclusion a long time ago. We are not here on NS to argue, debate or discuss any issues and change each others minds including on Trump. We are here on NS to argue, debate, discuss and share our different economic, political and social views, not to change each others minds on any issues including Trump.

I will never change any nations views on Cuba my pet issue on NS for obvious reasons.

No matter what personal stories I share about Cuba, no matter what personal stories I share about my family in Cuba, no matter what video links, sources and articles I provide as evidence.

Why because we all have different, economic, political and social views. see my posts above.

Now do you understand, read my posts above.
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Postby Autumn Wind » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:58 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Autumn Wind wrote:
How?

Buchanan left his first term in office with fewer states than when he started. By what objective standard are Carter and/or Obama worse than that?


They are the worst during my lifetime. I start counting with Carter. Prior to that I was too young to notice or care.


Ok. But the statement was that they were the worst ever. I accept your apology.
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Postby True Refuge » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:06 am

Miami Shores wrote: We are here on NS to argue, debate, discuss and share our different economic, political and social views


Except you don't do the first 3 past the most superficial "Reagan Great Trump Good Obama Bad Why? Cuz I said so", "i don't like M4A cuz choice", "I agree with <PERSON> why? What do you mean why? Onto the next topic.", "Democrats HYPOCRITES but I'll only actually shows the Democrats did the bad thing the Republicans did<10% of the time", just stating people are wrong or "their opinions are not their facts" or whatever without actually addressing the facts AT ALL. Someone asks you something, you go "bruh i already answered it that answer being cryptic and nonsensical".

Your interpretation of the exchange of ideas astounds me.
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Postby Gravlen » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:05 am

True Refuge wrote:You're upset they're trying to debate and provide evidence?

What exactly do you have against swearing? Cursing only has as much power as you give it.

It wasn't swearing he objected to, it was the naughty words "penis" and "dick".

You see, we got to be talking about the president's genitals because, well, we have far too much information about them. He objected to the words used, not the fact that we know Trump have been unfaithful and fucked around on his wife. He's good with adultery and attempts at covering it up, just don't say "penis". Great values.
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Postby Gravlen » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:07 am

The Black Forrest wrote:Sean Hannity is a low grade moron.

What matters is what the whistle blower reports.

Even that doesn't matter anymore, to be honest. What matters now is the testimony given (which is in line with the whistle blower report).
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Postby Gravlen » Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:45 am

I'm glad Trump and company is putting country before party and personal interests.

Oh wait...

Trump and Barr have also been asking other foreign governments for help in investigating the FBI, CIA and Mueller investigators. The US president has called on the Australian prime minister Scott Morrison for assistance, while the attorney general has been on similar missions to the UK and Italy.

And the information being requested has left allies astonished. One British official with knowledge of Barr’s wish list presented to London commented that “it is like nothing we have come across before, they are basically asking, in quite robust terms, for help in doing a hatchet job on their own intelligence services”.


UK intelligence officials shaken by Trump administration’s requests for help with counter-impeachment inquiry

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...asking foreign intelligence services to undermine the US intelligence community surely is America First, right? :unsure:
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:00 am

Gravlen wrote:I'm glad Trump and company is putting country before party and personal interests.

Oh wait...

Trump and Barr have also been asking other foreign governments for help in investigating the FBI, CIA and Mueller investigators. The US president has called on the Australian prime minister Scott Morrison for assistance, while the attorney general has been on similar missions to the UK and Italy.

And the information being requested has left allies astonished. One British official with knowledge of Barr’s wish list presented to London commented that “it is like nothing we have come across before, they are basically asking, in quite robust terms, for help in doing a hatchet job on their own intelligence services”.


UK intelligence officials shaken by Trump administration’s requests for help with counter-impeachment inquiry

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...asking foreign intelligence services to undermine the US intelligence community surely is America First, right? :unsure:


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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:23 am

It's more "swamp the drains" than "drain the swamp" these days. How much shit can Trump flush before it overflows and drowns him? Clog 'em up!
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:28 am

It's always weird how most Trump apologists can't defend his actions most of the time in concrete terms (like this, for instance) and only fall to vague allusions of something Obama or the Clintons did and how Trump is better.

And by weird I mean completely expected but still sad.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:31 am

Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No one is posting their own facts. What do you consider a legitimate news source and is everyone who is testifying committing perjury? Plus I’d like abd answer to my hypothetical

I know I asked for this, what hypothetical, I don't promise that I will answer it or not.

You are the one who keeps posting to me, I am entitled to my own opinions but not to my own facts. If you can say this to me, than I can say this to you.

You are entitled to your own opinions but not to your own facts, it works both ways, and it does work both ways.

"What do you consider a legitimate news source and is everyone who is testifying committing perjury?"

What I am saying is all these testimonies are based on hearsay not on facts. I am not going to charge anyone with perjury. I hope you will accept my answer agree with it or not, and not ask unnecessarily over, and over again, like you usually do, this is my official answer.

I consider all news sources as credible, what I mean is they all have substance in their posts, but the right wing spins it to the right and the leftists spin it to the left. I can read between the lines of the right win spin and the left wing spin the substance of the posts.

This is my hypothetical. Lets say I'm the Governor of Florida and you are my likely Republican opponent in the next election. I call up the district attorney for your county asking for a investigation and to get dirt on you to damage you going into the election in return I promise to help to the DA's campaign. Would you find such conduct acceptable? That's exactly what Trump did with Ukraine. A quid pro quo.

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