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Who do you support to become the next Labour Party Leader?

Clive Lewis (DROPPED OUT)
2
2%
Keir Starmer (Shadow Brexit Secretary, MP for Holborn and St Pancras)
48
41%
Lisa Nandy (MP for Wigan)
11
9%
Jess Phillips (DROPPED OUT)
17
15%
Emily Thornberry (Shadow First Secretary of State, MP for Islington South and Finsbury)
7
6%
Yvette Cooper (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Dan Jarvis (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Ian Lavery (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Rebecca Long Bailey (Shadow Business Secretary, MP for Salford and Eccles)
17
15%
Other (Please state who in a reply)
11
9%
 
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Postby Andsed » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:14 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Forced by whomst? If you try to put people in your prison, they're just going to shoot you.

I admit it may turn into something of an arms race.

No shit Sherlock. Also do you seriously not see the issue with allowing private companies to arrest people completely unregulated?
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:18 pm

Andsed wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I admit it may turn into something of an arms race.

No shit Sherlock. Also do you seriously not see the issue with allowing private companies to arrest people completely unregulated?

Free market, not free citizens. Indentured servitude is the absolute top game when it comes to profitability and is therefore an integral part of hardcore libertarianism.


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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:20 pm

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Andsed wrote:No shit Sherlock. Also do you seriously not see the issue with allowing private companies to arrest people completely unregulated?

Free market, not free citizens. Indentured servitude is the absolute top game when it comes to profitability and is therefore an integral part of hardcore libertarianism.

Tfw the unsociety of PRC is preferable.
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Postby Salandriagado » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:24 pm

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I don't think you have as much budget as you think you have to make proclamations on morality like this.

...when murder=bad isn't acceptable.


Even if we accept all of your silly assertions, the proposals that you advocate would still kill vastly more people.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:24 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:Free market, not free citizens. Indentured servitude is the absolute top game when it comes to profitability and is therefore an integral part of hardcore libertarianism.

Tfw the unsociety of PRC is preferable.

That's what you get when people eagerly read every dystopian cyberpunk novel they can get their hands on because they consider those to be instruction manuals in the form of literary entertainment.


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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:27 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:...when murder=bad isn't acceptable.


Even if we accept all of your silly assertions, the proposals that you advocate would still kill vastly more people.

The getting rid of the NHS alone would likely result in thousands of deaths in the first year.
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Postby Celritannia » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:27 pm

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The New California Republic wrote:In light of the following statement, why do you even give a shit about abortion:


Because everybody deserves a chance to come out on top in the glorious game that my society would turn into. Aborting them is denying them that chance.


That's, that's not how this works.

Who who gets to pay for the child the mother may or may not be able to bring up?
You? The state?
Because Private companies won't, and the family won't be able to afford it if they have little money.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:49 pm

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:In light of the following statement, why do you even give a shit about abortion:


Because everybody deserves a chance to come out on top in the glorious game that my society would turn into. Aborting them is denying them that chance.

Or you just want more desperate tenants for your inheritance.
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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:11 pm

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Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Yes. I literally hear everything I write.

Good job I said this earlier:
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Postby Rojava Free State » Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:17 pm

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:18 pm

Eastfield Lodge wrote:In case you don't know, GVH is blind and uses a screen reader.

Indeed.
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Postby Agarntrop » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:00 pm

Well, abortion is now officially legal in Northern Ireland.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:02 pm

Agarntrop wrote:Well, abortion is now officially legal in Northern Ireland.

Congratulations to everyone in Northern Ireland on this great achievement, except Arlene Foster.
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Postby Agarntrop » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:05 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Well, abortion is now officially legal in Northern Ireland.

Congratulations to everyone in Northern Ireland on this great achievement, except Arlene Foster.

Actually, I think that it only comes into effect on March 31st, today's just when it is set in stone and cannot be changed.
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Postby Gormwood » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:05 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Well, abortion is now officially legal in Northern Ireland.

Congratulations to everyone in Northern Ireland on this great achievement, except Arlene Foster.

All that webbing makes for effective contraception anyways.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:16 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Congratulations to everyone in Northern Ireland on this great achievement, except Arlene Foster.

Actually, I think that it only comes into effect on March 31st, today's just when it is set in stone and cannot be changed.

There needs to be additional legislation by the end of March regarding the regulation of the provision of abortion services, in order to make abortions available. Gay marriage on the other hand will be sorted by February.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:20 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Actually, I think that it only comes into effect on March 31st, today's just when it is set in stone and cannot be changed.

There needs to be additional legislation by the end of March regarding the regulation of the provision of abortion services, in order to make abortions available. Gay marriage on the other hand will be sorted by February.

In time for a very gay Valentines Day.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:23 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:There needs to be additional legislation by the end of March regarding the regulation of the provision of abortion services, in order to make abortions available. Gay marriage on the other hand will be sorted by February.

In time for a very gay Valentines Day.

I think every single couple should send an invite to Arlene.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:33 pm

Agarntrop wrote:Well, abortion is now officially legal in Northern Ireland.

What a great day for the people of Northern Ireland, who will -- in future -- have the same rights as their counterparts in the rest of the United Kingdom.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:33 pm

Agarntrop wrote:Well, abortion is now officially legal in Northern Ireland.

Good news mall around.
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:46 pm

Boris has the votes it is only a matter of time until the deal happens.

Though Bercow has been quoted as saying Brexit will happen over his dead body.
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:48 pm



As it is a minor Tweek to May's deal it really was already debated and the only relevant portions to debate is are the tweeks Boris got.
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Postby Celritannia » Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:47 pm

Well Boris had a vote, he should accept it and move on.

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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:45 pm

The Free Joy State wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:Well, abortion is now officially legal in Northern Ireland.

What a great day for the people of Northern Ireland, who will -- in future -- have the same rights as their counterparts in the rest of the United Kingdom.

And just fuck the unborn, right?
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