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Postby Hywana » Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:41 am

I believe biological immortality would be most fitting, so you don't age, but diseases and injuries can still kill you.
total invincibility really seems like too much of a magical thing for it to apply to this hypothetical.

and yes, I would want biological immortality.
and I'm guessing that effectively the maximum life span really wouldn't increase beyond a thousand years or so, because of people dying of injuries, diseases, etc.

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Postby The Vermin » Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:44 am

Hywana wrote:I believe biological immortality would be most fitting, so you don't age, but diseases and injuries can still kill you.
total invincibility really seems like too much of a magical thing for it to apply to this hypothetical.

and yes, I would want biological immortality.
and I'm guessing that effectively the maximum life span really wouldn't increase beyond a thousand years or so, because of people dying of injuries, diseases, etc.


Imortal is not possible nothing can stop time as long time lives we die time cant end and will not end, to win from time you need to be faster then time (but that makes your death comming faster)
Slower: we cant travel in time that would make it possible but damage the past will damage the future (for people that dont understand)


America
Mother

Canada
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Canada WAR America


Mother and Father leave and go to Germany meet eachother and bam there are you :P


Changing time:

America
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Canada
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America Friends Canada

Dont meet eachother and you will not be born.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:49 am

If there were such medicine I would certainly take it.
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Postby Langorham » Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:51 am

Neptune-aughts wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
With your scenario I think I'd wait till I was in my 90 (or on my "death bead" for some other reason) or so before I take it.


Yes, because who wouldn't want to be stuck at 90 on their death bed forever?


Or even worse being stuck at 90 on their death bed forever with hemorrhoids.

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Postby Innis-Gunn » Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:51 am

The Vermin wrote:SNIP


My poor brain

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Postby The Vermin » Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:52 am

Innis-Gunn wrote:
The Vermin wrote:SNIP


My poor brain


there are so many problems Body Univers etc and nature that will not allow to be immortal

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I'm gonna live forever
I'm gonna learn how to fly high
I feel it coming together
People will see me and cry, fame

I'm gonna make it to heaven
Light up the sky like a flame, fame
I'm gonna live forever
Baby, remember my name
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Postby Innis-Gunn » Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:55 am

The Vermin wrote:
Innis-Gunn wrote:
My poor brain


there are so many problems Body Univers etc and nature that will not allow to be immortal


I was referring to your attempt to communicate that. I'm guessing English isn't your native language?

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Postby The Vermin » Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:56 am

Innis-Gunn wrote:
The Vermin wrote:
there are so many problems Body Univers etc and nature that will not allow to be immortal


I was referring to your attempt to communicate that. I'm guessing English isn't your native language?

No :P Typing is a pain in the ass for me xD but talking is perfect :)

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Postby Innis-Gunn » Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:58 am

The Vermin wrote:No :P Typing is a pain in the ass for me xD but talking is perfect :)


Better that than the other way around :) I hate being able to read and write other languages but have massive problems speaking them

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Postby Lunas Verde » Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:04 am

Noooo boy, no immortality for me. Not unless every biological imperative was eliminated along with your age-and-die mechanism. The worst part for me would be watching the people you grew to know age and die before you, but pretty much the whole thing would suck. I mean, what in the hell would you do with all that time?

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Postby Great Nepal » Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:09 am

The Vermin wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:If some sort of immortality medicine was created how many people would take it?
Would masses of people take it similar to the movie Daybreak or would the thought of living forever dissuade most people?

I've been thinking about this question since watching the movie Daybreak, and I would think that most people would take the drug. Everyday science is coming closer and closer to unlocking the secret to immortality, there may be one day when the chance of taking some sort of immortality drug becomes a true possibility.


its impossible to make that, the body is made of millions millions of cells. Sience told that the body cant accept immortality,

The body as i told has cells, every time we talk look or jump, cells die and new will come its nature if you make them immortal (Sience told) the body will grow older, the cells wil become weaker, you cant stop that nothing can stop that, if you can than your not any more an human and the body will lose his normal way of working (i inform this later). something is clear we where not made to be mortal (Quote of Abraham Lincoln) why we are mortal well you can find answers Bible / Sience and more etc bla bla all that stuff

To come back on the i inform later:

Breading air is a must to stay alive
It gives the brain air to work your entire body, if Imortal you dont need to breath cant die on a disease or Age.
this will bring the body in problems

No air? = Brain failure/ Braindeath / Weak blood etc. there is a very big explaination of this but to hold it simple:
All cells need to die your body needs to die before the cells can change there way they work, but when your dead you cant live any more.

this makes it immpossible,


Cells die of and new ones come... body will loose it normal way of working and hang on what was the first bit???

*Brain explosion*
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Postby The Floridian Coast » Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:20 am

I'd want it if it had an antidote as well. Otherwise, no.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:51 am

The Vermin wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:If some sort of immortality medicine was created how many people would take it?
Would masses of people take it similar to the movie Daybreak or would the thought of living forever dissuade most people?

I've been thinking about this question since watching the movie Daybreak, and I would think that most people would take the drug. Everyday science is coming closer and closer to unlocking the secret to immortality, there may be one day when the chance of taking some sort of immortality drug becomes a true possibility.


its impossible to make that, the body is made of millions millions of cells. Sience told that the body cant accept immortality,

The body as i told has cells, every time we talk look or jump, cells die and new will come its nature if you make them immortal (Sience told) the body will grow older, the cells wil become weaker, you cant stop that nothing can stop that, if you can than your not any more an human and the body will lose his normal way of working (i inform this later). something is clear we where not made to be mortal (Quote of Abraham Lincoln) why we are mortal well you can find answers Bible / Sience and more etc bla bla all that stuff

To come back on the i inform later:

Breading air is a must to stay alive
It gives the brain air to work your entire body, if Imortal you dont need to breath cant die on a disease or Age.
this will bring the body in problems

No air? = Brain failure/ Braindeath / Weak blood etc. there is a very big explaination of this but to hold it simple:
All cells need to die your body needs to die before the cells can change there way they work, but when your dead you cant live any more.

this makes it immpossible,

Don't be silly. Immortals breathe, just like the rest of you. I've been doing it since ... oh, sometime in the Tioga Maxima. Cells die, yes, and are replaced, over and over. I'm not sure why I'm immortal, but I assure my body works just like yours. It simply ages very, very slowly. ;)
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:54 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Don't be silly. Immortals breathe, just like the rest of you. I've been doing it since ... oh, sometime in the Tioga Maxima. Cells die, yes, and are replaced, over and over. I'm not sure why I'm immortal, but I assure my body works just like yours. It simply ages very, very slowly. ;)


Oh Farn, there's no reason not to tell them our secret. To achieve immortality you simply stop dying.

Much like that time we were both shipwrecked off the Land of Punt while undertaking that trade mission for Amenhotep II - we avoided death by not drowning.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:03 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:
Don't be silly. Immortals breathe, just like the rest of you. I've been doing it since ... oh, sometime in the Tioga Maxima. Cells die, yes, and are replaced, over and over. I'm not sure why I'm immortal, but I assure my body works just like yours. It simply ages very, very slowly. ;)


Oh Farn, there's no reason not to tell them our secret. To achieve immortality you simply stop dying.

Much like that time we were both shipwrecked off the Land of Punt while undertaking that trade mission for Amenhotep II - we avoided death by not drowning.

I suppose, Arch. One gets used to not quite saying, after so many centuries.

The worst part of that expedition was having to walk back. Amenhotep's grandmother, Hatshepsut, did those trading missions so much better. Seriously, one ship? But then Amenhotep was spending most of his treasure on those damned expeditions against Mitanni, I suppose we were lucky to have the one ship we did have.

(Speaking of Mitanni, where is he these days? He didn't get himself thrown into the Outer Dark, did he?)
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:51 am

I'm already immortal. So far I haven't been proven wrong.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:56 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:I'm already immortal. So far I haven't been proven wrong.

Live forever or die trying, as my friend Yossarian said. Welcome to the club.
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Postby Equimanthon » Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:01 am

The idea of living endlessly with no cessation terrifies me. The idea of dying, and just ending, and not knowing anything anymore also terrifies me. Lose-lose situation I'm in here.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:06 am

Equimanthon wrote:The idea of living endlessly with no cessation terrifies me. The idea of dying, and just ending, and not knowing anything anymore also terrifies me. Lose-lose situation I'm in here.

The 19th century BC was pretty boring, I have to admit, but otherwise, if you keep your mind open and aren't afraid to travel a bit, it's not bad. As for the nothingness of death, there's nothing to be afraid of. You just stop, is all. You won't know about the nothingness. And if you have lived a decent life, you'll be remembered. These days, the way everything is preserved electronically, that's more certain than ever. The best way to be remembered, and I have it in my will, just in case, is to have your grave marker be a bench, engraved with an invitation to people to sit down.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:15 am

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The 19th century BC was pretty boring, I have to admit


I found the late 6th far more tedious. Justinian just wouldn't listen to me about Theodora and the Miaphysites, and then when the plague hit... No wonder Ethiopia looked appealing for a couple of decades.

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Postby Equimanthon » Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:18 am

The Archregimancy wrote:I found the late 6th far more tedious. Justinian just wouldn't listen to me about Theodora and the Miaphysites, and then when the plague hit... No wonder Ethiopia looked appealing for a couple of decades.


Oh come on it was all kicking off, the recapture of Rome, Anglo-Saxon colonisation of England, evidently you just weren't looking in the right places. Lack of commitment, that.
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I would feel very uncomfortable if I knew I couldn't kill myself at any opportunity I desired
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:32 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:]
The 19th century BC was pretty boring, I have to admit


I found the late 6th far more tedious. Justinian just wouldn't listen to me about Theodora and the Miaphysites, and then when the plague hit... No wonder Ethiopia looked appealing for a couple of decades.

I know, you couldn't talk to anyone, let alone Justinian and Theodora, about religion without it becoming a brawl. That's one reason I liked Belisarius' wife, Antonina, better (don't believe anything that nasty little clerk Procopius wrote). I wandered through Persia and over to India, but the Gupta Empire was on its way out by the middle 500s, so I slipped back over to Punt, of all places. You remember that bay we passed just before that idiot captain ran us aground? I had a very nice little place built there, sent for most of my library (Nola was crawling with Byzantines and Lombards and Goths, it was better to be away), and spent about 40 years reading and walking around East Africa. If I had known you were in Ethiopia, I would have invited you down. Were you there when the Ethiopians invaded Arabia? I heard the most scurrilous story about how that happened.

(Do you know Larry Gonick's Cartoon History of the Universe? The Ethiopia story I'm referring to is in the second volume. I think you might find the series amusing. His picture of a dandified Mede saying of a Persian, "They live in a yurt, have only one shirt and are covered with dirt, phew!" is wonderful.)
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