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by Galloism » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:17 pm
Genivaria wrote:Been liking alot of what Yang has been putting down.
by Zurkerx » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:21 pm
San Lumen wrote:Zurkerx wrote:
New Mexico is not going red, especially since it has a growing Hispanic population. Yes, Bush won NM 2004 but by under a point; Democrats have since then won by 8 points or more. Don't fret over New Mexico: Clinton build base of operations in Georgia, Arizona, and hell even Utah because she thought she could flip them. Tell me how that turned out.
There is a concern that there isn't a Democrat that can light that spark though I think once the field does narrow significantly, and by that, big names drop, then you'll see the party come to a more consensus. Now, would they have the spark that Obama or Bill Clinton had? Of course not, but I think what will drive people out is their utter hatred for Trump; the other side will be doing so against a Democrat. The question remains, can the eventual nominee be inspiring enough to win in the Rust Belt? And I think Warren just has enough. Just.
what's your opinion about Minnesota?
by The South Falls » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:21 pm
by Cannot think of a name » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:26 pm
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Does anyone think Trump will get a second term?
by The South Falls » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:26 pm
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Does anyone think Trump will get a second term?
by LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:31 pm
The South Falls wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Does anyone think Trump will get a second term?
Oh, yea. It's kinda sad, but the resurgence of rural America has been seen, and even if they don't choose well, they'll choose the next president. And anyway, they'll probably bring in influence again, let's be honest.
by The South Falls » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:32 pm
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:The South Falls wrote:Oh, yea. It's kinda sad, but the resurgence of rural America has been seen, and even if they don't choose well, they'll choose the next president. And anyway, they'll probably bring in influence again, let's be honest.
If they give him a second term, I will roll my eyes. The guy is a buffon, and any rational person can see that.
by Cannot think of a name » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:34 pm
The South Falls wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:If they give him a second term, I will roll my eyes. The guy is a buffon, and any rational person can see that.
Many of the people voting for him though are convinced by Fox News and their mediums of information uptake that Trump is not a corrupt idiot, he is an embattled purveyor of Truth.
by The South Falls » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:36 pm
by The Andromeda Archipelago » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:39 pm
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Does anyone think Trump will get a second term?
by Miami Shores » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:20 pm
by Major-Tom » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:26 pm
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Does anyone think Trump will get a second term?
by Miami Shores » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:36 pm
Major-Tom wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Does anyone think Trump will get a second term?
It's possible, polls are volatile this early on, and we can't write off MI, WI, PA, and even MN as given victories for the Dems. We're going to have to bust our asses campaigning in the states we lost, and it's crucial we nominate a candidate whose message is about economic equity and justice for all Americans, as opposed to a candidate more focused on trying to rebut Trump's rhetoric.
A good 35-40% of registered voters have probably already locked in their vote for Trump, they won't be convinced to vote for Jesus Christ himself if he had a (D) next to his name. It's our job to convince the swing voters in the Upper Midwest and Plains who voted Obama in 2012 and Trump in 2016 that we're again the party with a convincing and coherent economic, social and environmental vision.
by San Lumen » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:05 pm
by Telconi » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:08 pm
by LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:25 pm
by Sovaal » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:37 pm
by Miami Shores » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:54 pm
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:The Andromeda Archipelago wrote:
Donald Trump doesn't DESERVE a second term.
Whether he'll actually get one? Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.
I never said he deserves one. He is a stupid man. Also, despite the stereotype most Americans are not stupid. Trump lost the popular vote after all.
by San Lumen » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:57 pm
Miami Shores wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I never said he deserves one. He is a stupid man. Also, despite the stereotype most Americans are not stupid. Trump lost the popular vote after all.
Trump lost the popular vote because of leftist California the most populated state in the US, but Trump won the majority of the votes of most of the other states, leftist California put Hillary over the top in the popular votes, I did the easy to do math.
by Zurkerx » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:59 pm
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:The Andromeda Archipelago wrote:
Donald Trump doesn't DESERVE a second term.
Whether he'll actually get one? Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.
I never said he deserves one. He is a stupid man. Also, despite the stereotype most Americans are not stupid. Trump lost the popular vote after all.
by Miami Shores » Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:03 pm
San Lumen wrote:Miami Shores wrote:Trump lost the popular vote because of leftist California the most populated state in the US, but Trump won the majority of the votes of most of the other states, leftist California put Hillary over the top in the popular votes, I did the easy to do math.
That’s a ridiculous argument. That’s like saying if the Puget Sound region was subtracted from statewide votes in Washington a republican would have won. What’s your point?
by San Lumen » Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:06 pm
Miami Shores wrote:San Lumen wrote:That’s a ridiculous argument. That’s like saying if the Puget Sound region was subtracted from statewide votes in Washington a republican would have won. What’s your point?
You are correct San Lumen, That’s like saying if the Puget Sound region was subtracted from statewide votes in Washington a republican would have won.
But as I said add heavily populated leftist California and Hillary won the majority of the popular vote, I did not say their votes do not count, I said heavily populated leftist California put Hillary Clinton over the top in the popular vote, I gave Hillary her credit.
by Miami Shores » Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:17 pm
San Lumen wrote:Miami Shores wrote:You are correct San Lumen, That’s like saying if the Puget Sound region was subtracted from statewide votes in Washington a republican would have won.
But as I said add heavily populated leftist California and Hillary won the majority of the popular vote, I did not say their votes do not count, I said heavily populated leftist California put Hillary Clinton over the top in the popular vote, I gave Hillary her credit.
And it’s not fair that a vote in California counts less than a vote in Arkansas. Your argument is dumb. You can alter the math for any election to say if only this that person would have one
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