MAGAThread XVI: Raising the Barr

[Ifreann]

"I'm not guilty, but I won't share the evidence to prove my innocence until you vote to investigate me!"
Sound logic, I'm sure there is nothing to hide.

I unfortunately see a court case brewing. I have a feeling it’s going to go all the way to the top court

Trump, on the face of it, wouldn't appear to have any case. Committees don't need a vote of the whole House to issue subpoenas. In fact, at a glance, the courts aren't likely to even consider a legal challenge to a Congressional subpoena once it's pursuant to a legitimate legislative purpose.

[Thermodolia]

Knew not to jump to answers

Let’s hope this isn’t used as an excuse to disregard the report though

That thing has absolutely zero sources. And the examiner is terrible when it comes to news.

[Thermodolia]

I unfortunately see a court case brewing. I have a feeling it’s going to go all the way to the top court

Trump, on the face of it, wouldn't appear to have any case. Committees don't need a vote of the whole House to issue subpoenas. In fact, at a glance, the courts aren't likely to even consider a legal challenge to a Congressional subpoena once it's pursuant to a legitimate legislative purpose.

My worry is that Trump will continue to appeal to get all the way to SCOTUS. Where Trump will bank on the conservatives to rule in his favor. Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if he called the judges he appointed and basically threatened them

[Telconi]

I unfortunately see a court case brewing. I have a feeling it’s going to go all the way to the top court

Trump, on the face of it, wouldn't appear to have any case. Committees don't need a vote of the whole House to issue subpoenas. In fact, at a glance, the courts aren't likely to even consider a legal challenge to a Congressional subpoena once it's pursuant to a legitimate legislative purpose.

They could argue rather it was pursuant to a legitimate legislative purpose.

[Telconi]

Trump, on the face of it, wouldn't appear to have any case. Committees don't need a vote of the whole House to issue subpoenas. In fact, at a glance, the courts aren't likely to even consider a legal challenge to a Congressional subpoena once it's pursuant to a legitimate legislative purpose.

My worry is that Trump will continue to appeal to get all the way to SCOTUS. Where Trump will bank on the conservatives to rule in his favor. Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if he called the judges he appointed and basically threatened them

He really doesn't have any power of them now.

[Vassenor]

Knew not to jump to answers

Let’s hope this isn’t used as an excuse to disregard the report though

"They totally have links to one of the candidates but we won't tell you who" sounds like they're bullshitting.

[Thermodolia]

My worry is that Trump will continue to appeal to get all the way to SCOTUS. Where Trump will bank on the conservatives to rule in his favor. Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if he called the judges he appointed and basically threatened them

He really doesn't have any power of them now.

Doesn’t mean he wouldn’t try

[Telconi]

He really doesn't have any power of them now.

Doesn’t mean he wouldn’t try

Of course not, he'd probably try anything.

[Stamp Out Trump]

According to the White House and the Republicans:

"the White House first noted in the letter that there has not been a formal vote in the House to open an impeachment inquiry -- and that the news conference held by Pelosi last month was insufficient to commence the proceedings.?"

White House announces it will not comply with 'illegitimate and unconstitutional' impeachment inquiry

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/impeac ... ply-pelosi

Hold the vote, this thread needs a good poll so we can all vote, many fellow nations read our posts but don't post.

"I'm not guilty, but I won't share the evidence to prove my innocence until you vote to investigate me!"
Sound logic, I'm sure there is nothing to hide.

The White House is interested in constantly muddying the waters. Same lame old obstructionist rectum as usual.

[Stamp Out Trump]

Trump, on the face of it, wouldn't appear to have any case. Committees don't need a vote of the whole House to issue subpoenas. In fact, at a glance, the courts aren't likely to even consider a legal challenge to a Congressional subpoena once it's pursuant to a legitimate legislative purpose.

My worry is that Trump will continue to appeal to get all the way to SCOTUS. Where Trump will bank on the conservatives to rule in his favor. Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if he called the judges he appointed and basically threatened them

If he did that and it was documented and it was allowed to stand, then tear up the constitution. Tear up the bill of rights. Is that what MAGA meant to these people that were Tea Party Patriots 8 years ago?

[Nakena]

My worry is that Trump will continue to appeal to get all the way to SCOTUS. Where Trump will bank on the conservatives to rule in his favor. Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if he called the judges he appointed and basically threatened them

If he did that and it was documented and it was allowed to stand, then tear up the constitution. Tear up the bill of rights. Is that what MAGA meant to these people that were Tea Party Patriots 8 years ago?

Yes. They just didn knew it.

[Ifreann]

Trump, on the face of it, wouldn't appear to have any case. Committees don't need a vote of the whole House to issue subpoenas. In fact, at a glance, the courts aren't likely to even consider a legal challenge to a Congressional subpoena once it's pursuant to a legitimate legislative purpose.

My worry is that Trump will continue to appeal to get all the way to SCOTUS. Where Trump will bank on the conservatives to rule in his favor. Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if he called the judges he appointed and basically threatened them

I would not be terribly surprised if Trump expected protection from "his" judges. I would be surprised if they reversed settled law quite so blatantly in his favour.

[Stamp Out Trump]

If he did that and it was documented and it was allowed to stand, then tear up the constitution. Tear up the bill of rights. Is that what MAGA meant to these people that were Tea Party Patriots 8 years ago?

Yes. They just didn knew it.

Stupid lot. Do they know that would mean we have no representation and the Presidency would cease to exist? First guy out the door will be Trump - Scot free of any charges. Is this person worth destroying over 200+ years of constitutional law?

[Vassenor]

Knew not to jump to answers

Let’s hope this isn’t used as an excuse to disregard the report though

"They totally have links to one of the candidates but we won't tell you who" sounds like they're bullshitting.

Also I can't find this being reported on elsewhere and the Washington Examiner has been caught publishing false stories before. I think for the moment we can call this dubious.

[Cannot think of a name]

Knew not to jump to answers

Let’s hope this isn’t used as an excuse to disregard the report though

Okay...but...so what? We're not just taking their word for it. Regardless of bias or no bias, that would be ridiculous. It's not how whistleblower protection works. The information is vetted, then further investigated. Which is exactly what's happening.

In the Aug. 26 letter, Atkinson said that even though there was evidence of possible bias on the whistleblower's part, "such evidence did not change my determination that the complaint relating to the urgent concern 'appears credible,' particularly given the other information the ICIG obtained during its preliminary review."

The information was provided up front by Orange Crush as part of the vetting process. And it was still deemed credible. The content of the call was what Orange Crush said it was. There's another whistleblower who has stepped forward with first hand information that also verifies the report.

The report is a lamp. That's it. This doesn't matter if the facts back it up. That's what the inquiry is for. If you're making a decision about it based on this, that's undo bias. Knowing Orange Crush's ties the IG felt the complaint appeared credible. It should be investigated. This is how things work.

[Aureumterra]

Knew not to jump to answers

Let’s hope this isn’t used as an excuse to disregard the report though

Shit source but wouldn’t be surprised if the whistleblower has partisan leanings towards the Dems

[Professor Irwin Corey]

Knew not to jump to answers

Let’s hope this isn’t used as an excuse to disregard the report though

Shit source but wouldn’t be surprised if the whistleblower has partisan leanings towards the Dems

Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Shit source indeed.

Relatively, I myself wouldn't be surprised if electrons had partisan feelings towards other electrons. Same with the Protons. However, it's Neutrons which are very hard to figure out. Nevertheless it is elemental they work together on the full matter in a reasonable space of time.

[Duhon]

so not only is trump cockblocking testimonies and threatening everyone with treason charges
he's barring his admin from participating, calling it illegitimate from the get-go
he simply won't be bound by any laws that don't acknowledge his supremacy over them would he
clearly the laws are useless at this point
only people power can remove him before he wises up and does a yeltsin

[Miami Shores]

so not only is trump cockblocking testimonies and threatening everyone with treason charges
he's barring his admin from participating, calling it illegitimate from the get-go
he simply won't be bound by any laws that don't acknowledge his supremacy over them would he
clearly the laws are useless at this point
only people power can remove him before he wises up and does a yeltsin

Relax their is not going to be a right wing military coup d'état in favor of Donnie or Republicans lol.

[Duhon]

so not only is trump cockblocking testimonies and threatening everyone with treason charges
he's barring his admin from participating, calling it illegitimate from the get-go
he simply won't be bound by any laws that don't acknowledge his supremacy over them would he
clearly the laws are useless at this point
only people power can remove him before he wises up and does a yeltsin

Relax their is not going to be a right wing military coup d'état in favor of Donnie or Republicans lol.

do you know what yeltsin did to assert his supremacy over the duma when he was president?

[Professor Irwin Corey]

so not only is trump cockblocking testimonies and threatening everyone with treason charges
he's barring his admin from participating, calling it illegitimate from the get-go
he simply won't be bound by any laws that don't acknowledge his supremacy over them would he
clearly the laws are useless at this point
only people power can remove him before he wises up and does a yeltsin

Relax their is not going to be a right wing military coup d'état in favor of Donnie or Republicans lol.

Huh? What the HELL are you? The all powerful knowing Wizard of Oz? Gimme a break.

[San Lumen]

Trump, on the face of it, wouldn't appear to have any case. Committees don't need a vote of the whole House to issue subpoenas. In fact, at a glance, the courts aren't likely to even consider a legal challenge to a Congressional subpoena once it's pursuant to a legitimate legislative purpose.

My worry is that Trump will continue to appeal to get all the way to SCOTUS. Where Trump will bank on the conservatives to rule in his favor. Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if he called the judges he appointed and basically threatened them

And what’s he going to do threaten to fire them? I don’t think that Supreme Court would take kindly to being told how to rule by the president. If anything it would make it even more likely they rule against him. Congress has subpoena power. I highly doubt they are going to rule congress has no oversight over the president

[Bear Stearns]

so not only is trump cockblocking testimonies and threatening everyone with treason charges
he's barring his admin from participating, calling it illegitimate from the get-go
he simply won't be bound by any laws that don't acknowledge his supremacy over them would he
clearly the laws are useless at this point
only people power can remove him before he wises up and does a yeltsin

Relax their is not going to be a right wing military coup d'état in favor of Donnie or Republicans lol.

It'd be pretty insane to believe that given the political leanings of the US military establishment...especially the intelligence community.

[Bear Stearns]

Relax their is not going to be a right wing military coup d'état in favor of Donnie or Republicans lol.

do you know what yeltsin did to assert his supremacy over the duma when he was president?

Trump is Gorbachev. The neoliberal hardliners in the US intelligence community hate him.

Our Yeltsin is probably Marianne Williamson.

[San Lumen]

Relax their is not going to be a right wing military coup d'état in favor of Donnie or Republicans lol.

It'd be pretty insane to believe that given the political leanings of the US military establishment...especially the intelligence community.

There isn’t going to be a coup. The military takes an oath to the constitution not the president