MAGAThread XVI: Raising the Barr

[Miami Shores]

Good comment on the whistleblower Rudy and their are a lot more by others:
Rudy Giuliani:
Since we know the conversation and there is no money and no quid pro quo, unlike Biden which was strong arming, any more whistleblowers are just to offer Dem spin. If they don’t identify themselves, so we can’t find out if they are Dems, like their lawyer, they are irrelevant.
https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status ... 4333030400

[Necroghastia]

Good comment on the whistleblower Rudy and their are a lot more by others:
Rudy Giuliani:
Since we know the conversation and there is no money and no quid pro quo, unlike Biden which was strong arming, any more whistleblowers are just to offer Dem spin. If they don’t identify themselves, so we can’t find out if they are Dems, like their lawyer, they are irrelevant.
https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status ... 4333030400

You've got a real weird standard for "good."

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

An interesting opinion piece.

The Trumponomics experiment is failing before our eyes

Who could imagine a failed businessman's economic plan falling apart?

Even if there is a recession, Trump will deny it

[Miami Shores]

Good comment on the whistleblower Rudy and their are a lot more by others:
Rudy Giuliani:
Since we know the conversation and there is no money and no quid pro quo, unlike Biden which was strong arming, any more whistleblowers are just to offer Dem spin. If they don’t identify themselves, so we can’t find out if they are Dems, like their lawyer, they are irrelevant.
https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status ... 4333030400

You've got a real weird standard for "good."

Those are your personal views not mine. This is a democratic nation where you all can criticize Donnie and Giuliani and I like millions of American citizens can defend Donnie and Giuliani.

[Gormwood]

Former Trump Organization executive says she expects President Trump will resign

Interesting. A possibility that Stupid Watergate ends up the same as Watergate Classic. Assuming of course Donny sticks to a need to save face and has not gone Kanye.

It seems this take may have more weight.

Trump told Republicans he doesn't want impeachment on his 'resume': report

So Donny is worried about his self-imposed image being tarnished by an impeachment even if he doesn't get convicted and removed.

[Miami Shores]

Former Trump Organization executive says she expects President Trump will resign

Interesting. A possibility that Stupid Watergate ends up the same as Watergate Classic. Assuming of course Donny sticks to a need to save face and has not gone Kanye.

It seems this take may have more weight.

Trump told Republicans he doesn't want impeachment on his 'resume': report

So Donny is worried about his self-imposed image being tarnished by an impeachment even if he doesn't get convicted and removed.

Gormwood Donnie will defend himself hard against the non Partisan Democrats trying to impeach him, the Democrats are non Partisan, it is just a coincidence they are anti Donnie since the first day of the elections lol.

[The Black Forrest]

It seems this take may have more weight.

Trump told Republicans he doesn't want impeachment on his 'resume': report

So Donny is worried about his self-imposed image being tarnished by an impeachment even if he doesn't get convicted and removed.

Gormwood Donnie will defend himself hard against the non Partisan Democrats trying to impeach him, the Democrats are non Partisan, it is just a coincidence they are anti Donnie since the first day of the elections lol.

Partisan is irrelevant. If Donnie was clean, they wouldn't have anything to run on.

I hope they investigate the Bidens. They won't as it would mean the Trump children are fair game for getting what they claim what Hunter Biden received.

It won't happen. There is only accusations. No email. No texts. No documents.

Donnie however...…

[The Black Forrest]

An interesting opinion piece.

The Trumponomics experiment is failing before our eyes

Who could imagine a failed businessman's economic plan falling apart?

Even if there is a recession, Trump will deny it

Recession is already here. Companies are contracting.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Even if there is a recession, Trump will deny it

Recession is already here. Companies are contracting.

We're in the equivalent of early '07 right now. My bet is it'll be about 3 months before we get hit full-force.

[Nakena]

Recession is already here. Companies are contracting.

We're in the equivalent of early '07 right now. My bet is it'll be about 3 months before we get hit full-force.

Recession would be another Lichtman Key set against Trump.

[Bear Stearns]

Recession is already here. Companies are contracting.

We're in the equivalent of early '07 right now. My bet is it'll be about 3 months before we get hit full-force.

There isn't a credit bubble nor many unjustifiably high valuations. It's just end of the business cycle unprofitability. The coming recession will be similar to the early 90s recession, not 2008.

Europe, however, looks to be headed for actual bank failures, so they might be entering a 2008-tier recession.

[Gormwood]

We're in the equivalent of early '07 right now. My bet is it'll be about 3 months before we get hit full-force.

Recession would be another Lichtman Key set against Trump.

Lichtman said a full impeachment would turn the Scandal Key. And distinctly, he did not mention that a conviction was needed. He even stated that the Blowjob Impeachment turned the Scandal Key and helped the Republicans win in 2000.

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

Recession would be another Lichtman Key set against Trump.

Lichtman said a full impeachment would turn the Scandal Key. And distinctly, he did not mention that a conviction was needed. He even stated that the Blowjob Impeachment turned the Scandal Key and helped the Republicans win in 2000.

That's five keys, then:
Short term economy: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign.
Social unrest: There is no sustained social unrest during the term.
Scandal: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.
Long term economy: Real per capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms.
Foreign/military success: The incumbent administration achieves a major success in foreign or military affairs.

I'm going to guess this is why Trump isn't going into Iran. He doesn't want another massive fucking failure.

[Gormwood]

Lichtman said a full impeachment would turn the Scandal Key. And distinctly, he did not mention that a conviction was needed. He even stated that the Blowjob Impeachment turned the Scandal Key and helped the Republicans win in 2000.

That's five keys, then:
Short term economy: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign.
Social unrest: There is no sustained social unrest during the term.
Scandal: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.
Long term economy: Real per capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms.
Foreign/military success: The incumbent administration achieves a major success in foreign or military affairs.

I'm going to guess this is why Trump isn't going into Iran. He doesn't want another massive fucking failure.

And this is where Donny's lack of emolument may possibly bite him in the ass, if the House of Saud ironically leverages their multimillions into getting Donny to have the U.S. try to rough up Iran in some way.

[Bear Stearns]

That's five keys, then:
Short term economy: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign.
Social unrest: There is no sustained social unrest during the term.
Scandal: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.
Long term economy: Real per capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms.
Foreign/military success: The incumbent administration achieves a major success in foreign or military affairs.

I'm going to guess this is why Trump isn't going into Iran. He doesn't want another massive fucking failure.

And this is where Donny's lack of emolument may possibly bite him in the ass, if the House of Saudironically leverages their multimillions into getting Donny to have the U.S. try to rough up Iran in some way.

*AIPAC

[Jean-Paul Sartre]

That's five keys, then:
Short term economy: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign.
Social unrest: There is no sustained social unrest during the term.
Scandal: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.
Long term economy: Real per capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms.
Foreign/military success: The incumbent administration achieves a major success in foreign or military affairs.

I'm going to guess this is why Trump isn't going into Iran. He doesn't want another massive fucking failure.

And this is where Donny's lack of emolument may possibly bite him in the ass, if the House of Saud ironically leverages their multimillions into getting Donny to have the U.S. try to rough up Iran in some way.

My bad, I forgot the "Party Mandate" one. Yeah, if he gets impeached and the economy goes to shit, he's fucked.

[Salandriagado]

So fix that shit.



Hate to break it to you, but no part of that is true: the US isn't ahead of everyone by any meaningful metric, and rampant corruption is the exact opposite of "desirable". It's also not draining other first-world nations of their smartest, largely on account of the utter fucking disaster area that is early-career academia in the US.



You realise that's twice as many billionaires per capita as the US, right?



"Temporary" my arse.

The US’s education, infrastructure, healthcare (as expensive as it is, even), and standard of living are higher than most places in the world.

"Better than third world shitholes" is not the same as "better than everybody else".

And if you think the US is the most corrupt country in the world, you’re probably wrong.

Put the strawman down.

There’s plenty of corruption in both better and worse countries than the US.

And, again, "not literally the worst in the world" is not the same as "not fucking awful".

[Salandriagado]

Which line of the constitution, precisely, do you think only applies to people who are "surefire bets" of winning the nomination of a particular club for the Presidency?

If the Democrat argument is that Trump was doing it to make it easier for him to win in 2020 by targeting Biden, it stand to reason that Biden should've been a shoe in for the DNC's nomination. If Sanders is the nominee, how does Trump getting dirt on Biden help Trump in 2020?

All of this is based on a false premise, and you still haven't quoted the relevant line of the constitution.

Emphasis mine.

Whoah, you found a typo in an online post, why you, like Obama, totally deserve the Nobel Peace Prize!

No, I found a grammatical error in your whining about other people's grammatical errors. Just pointing out your hypocrisy.

[Gravlen]

If the Democrat argument is that Trump was doing it to make it easier for him to win in 2020 by targeting Biden, it stand to reason that Biden should've been a shoe in for the DNC's nomination. If Sanders is the nominee, how does Trump getting dirt on Biden help Trump in 2020?




Whoah, you found a typo in an online post, why you, like Obama, totally deserve the Nobel Peace Prize!




It's rather hilarious how you feebly attempt to argue against the facts presented, and then confirm what I said. Will you also be reporting me to the mods this time? From your post:

The Senate has declined to establish a standard, leaving it a matter for the conscience of each Senator.

What do you think the standard of proof is going to be for Republican Senators? Do you think it'll be, oh, I don't know, "proof beyond a reasonable doubt?" Yeah, I think that's what it'll be for at least 40 of them. So let's do basic math here, Gravlen, I mean you did kind of argue last time that United Russia benefited itself by taking away 25 of its own seats in Crimea, so basic math here is warranted. Let's see what the US Constitution had to say:



Hmm, two thirds, that would be 67. And 100-40 would be 60. Stick with me here, because it seems to me that 67 is a tad larger than 60. So you'd need at least 7 of the 40 to impeach, and for that you'd need to meet the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard. That's reality. If you'd like to debate legal fiction, please do it elsewhere, since that can be, what's he proper term? Oh yeah, fucking boring. Salandriago, feel free to look for any typos in my other posts as well, since you seem to have a knack for it, and everyone's got their specialty.

Um, maybe they should be, but I don’t think senate convictions use the beyond a reasonable doubt standard.

And I’d say it’s hubris to presume the state of mind of every republican senator on a hypothetical event months away at a minimum.

As the link I provided shows, the Senate is at least not bound to use the beyond a reasonable doubt standard. The question is, rather, if you get away from the non-politicised cases (like in the Claiborne case and other cases of impeachment of judges, for example) if the individual senators hold to a burden of proof at all. After all, there is no real possibility of judicial review of the decision, and only the voters (in what is currently a highly partisan environment) will hold any senators to account for their convictions or their failure to convict.

It's all part of the fun of a two-party system.

[The Black Forrest]

So what actually has the Cut Cut Cut Act accomplished? Because it's not been an increase in take-home pay.

Return of growth in real wages, 50 year low unlemployment, and significant gains in workers income equality.

Meh.

Don’t believe the first one, Well it may have happened. Not enough to even notice. The middle class tax cut could expire and I wouldn’t notice it.

The second? His tax cuts didn’t create it.

Income equality? Hardly.

Anyhow. The cut cut cut program affected me. I was laid off.

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So what actually has the Cut Cut Cut Act accomplished? Because it's not been an increase in take-home pay.

Return of growth in real wages, 50 year low unlemployment, and significant gains in workers income equality.

Thanks, Obama!

[Duhon]

so it seems trump has also sold the kurds upriver
how many does this make it now?
jamal khashoggi for arms deals
the people of hong kong and joe biden and his family
russian dissidents for putin
the north koreans for kim
the fucking kurds

this
fucking
dick

[The Huskar Social Union]

so it seems trump has also sold the kurds upriver
how many does this make it now?
jamal khashoggi for arms deals
the people of hong kong and joe biden and his family
russian dissidents for putin
the north koreans for kim
the fucking kurds

this
fucking
dick

This is the second time america has shafted the Kurds, dont know why im surprised.

[Loben The 2nd]

so it seems trump has also sold the kurds upriver
how many does this make it now?
jamal khashoggi for arms deals
the people of hong kong and joe biden and his family
russian dissidents for putin
the north koreans for kim
the fucking kurds

this
fucking
dick

What did we apparently do to the Kurds?

[Jakker]

I realize you are nothing but a glorified shitstirrer at this point Gauth, but Christ, you could try to make it less obvious.

No need to escalate things further and make it more personal.