Right-Wing Discussion Thread XVIII: Hyena Central Command 憶ラ

[Napkizemlja]

Both of your threads are very nice, everyone gets a biscuit.

Only McVitie's.

[Xuloqoia]

>Tfw you make a light-hearted jab at the LWDT and it gets blown into a serious convo that should never have occurred

The feels are reals.

[Hanafuridake]

It'd be interesting to see what the result would be of making national focus trees based on our ideologies.

[Kowani]

It'd be interesting to see what the result would be of making national focus trees based on our ideologies.

Focus Trees?
As in, Warframe?

[Torrocca]

>Tfw you make a light-hearted jab at the LWDT and it gets blown into a serious convo that should never have occurred

That's the power of the mistake known as NSG for you.

[Salus Maior]

It'd be interesting to see what the result would be of making national focus trees based on our ideologies.

Tbh I think mine already exists in Kaiserreich.

[Salus Maior]

Time for Ethiopia to have an Emperor again?

There are few monarchies I'd never wish to be restored. The Qajars in Persia and the Bourbons (and that's just the Bourbons, not the Orleans cadet branch) in France being the most prominent. Ethiopia, in my opinion, was at its best when it had its Emperor.

Yes, I think there are a number of clearly unworthy royal lines (although I don't think all the Bourbons were that bad, Zita Bourbon-Parma was a pretty great Empress-consort to Karl Habsburg).

*Cough*liketheSauds*Cough* #HashemiteArabia

[North German Realm]

There are few monarchies I'd never wish to be restored. The Qajars in Persia and the Bourbons (and that's just the Bourbons, not the Orleans cadet branch) in France being the most prominent. Ethiopia, in my opinion, was at its best when it had its Emperor.

Yes, I think there are a number of clearly unworthy royal lines (although I don't think all the Bourbons were that bad, Zita Bourbon-Parma was a pretty great Empress-consort to Karl Habsburg).

*Cough*liketheSauds*Cough* #HashemiteArabia

A united Iraqi, Jordanian, and Hejazi state ruled by the Hashemites could have been an interesting state in the Middle East. I wouldn't say the Hashemites deserve to rule the Peninsula any more than the Sauds do, however.

[Salus Maior]

Yes, I think there are a number of clearly unworthy royal lines (although I don't think all the Bourbons were that bad, Zita Bourbon-Parma was a pretty great Empress-consort to Karl Habsburg).

*Cough*liketheSauds*Cough* #HashemiteArabia

A united Iraqi, Jordanian, and Hejazi state ruled by the Hashemites could have been an interesting state in the Middle East. I wouldn't say the Hashemites deserve to rule the Peninsula any more than the Sauds do, however.

The Sauds are usurpers, the Hashemites were the protectors of Mecca and Medina for centuries. I think that gives them enough right, plus the Hashemites aren't Wahabi.

[North German Realm]

A united Iraqi, Jordanian, and Hejazi state ruled by the Hashemites could have been an interesting state in the Middle East. I wouldn't say the Hashemites deserve to rule the Peninsula any more than the Sauds do, however.

The Sauds are usurpers, the Hashemites were the protectors of Mecca and Medina for centuries. I think that gives them enough right, plus the Hashemites aren't Wahabi.

And? There is no such thing as "usurping" in international relations. Saudis and Hashemites fought, Hashemites were the clear inferior as the only reason they even survived long enough to be annexed by the Saudis was Ottoman (and later British) intervention. I mean, I hate the Saudis as much as the next guy, but "usurping" doesn't make sense when it's about war between two sovereign states.

[Dumb Ideologies]

i can't think of anything more sophomoric than having an argument over which thread is better

neato. i do like to see a vocabulary word out in the wild.

[Salus Maior]

The Sauds are usurpers, the Hashemites were the protectors of Mecca and Medina for centuries. I think that gives them enough right, plus the Hashemites aren't Wahabi.

And? There is no such thing as "usurping" in international relations. Saudis and Hashemites fought, Hashemites were the clear inferior as the only reason they even survived long enough to be annexed by the Saudis was Ottoman (and later British) intervention. I mean, I hate the Saudis as much as the next guy, but "usurping" doesn't make sense when it's about war between two sovereign states.

There is, if you're a Royal Legitimist.

[Kowani]

And? There is no such thing as "usurping" in international relations. Saudis and Hashemites fought, Hashemites were the clear inferior as the only reason they even survived long enough to be annexed by the Saudis was Ottoman (and later British) intervention. I mean, I hate the Saudis as much as the next guy, but "usurping" doesn't make sense when it's about war between two sovereign states.

There is, if you're a Royal Legitimist.

Imagine believing this position to apply anywhere that isn’t Japan.

[Salus Maior]

There is, if you're a Royal Legitimist.

Imagine believing this position to apply anywhere that isn’t Japan.

Legitimism is really only believing that certain royal lines have a valid claim to the monarchy. That's the most basic of the basic of monarchism.

[Kowani]

Imagine believing this position to apply anywhere that isn’t Japan.

Legitimism is really only believing that certain royal lines have a valid claim to the monarchy. That's the most basic of the basic of monarchism.

This would be a valid belief if monarchies hadn’t changed hands dozens of times.

[Salus Maior]

Legitimism is really only believing that certain royal lines have a valid claim to the monarchy. That's the most basic of the basic of monarchism.

This would be a valid belief if monarchies hadn’t changed hands dozens of times.

Sure, but how many of those lines that have held the throne are still alive?

The pickings are pretty slim once you get to the modern age.

[Nakena]

i can't think of anything more sophomoric than having an argument over which thread is better

Le bestest thread.

[North German Realm]

And? There is no such thing as "usurping" in international relations. Saudis and Hashemites fought, Hashemites were the clear inferior as the only reason they even survived long enough to be annexed by the Saudis was Ottoman (and later British) intervention. I mean, I hate the Saudis as much as the next guy, but "usurping" doesn't make sense when it's about war between two sovereign states.

There is, if you're a Royal Legitimist.

And the Hashemite claim to Mecca was officially overturned in the Islamic Conference of 1925 though. The legitimacy of Hashemite rule of Hejaz solely relied on their vassalage to the Khadim al-Ḥaramayn as the concept of Sharif (being related to Muhammad) doesn't actually give people the right to rule in Islamic theology.

[Kowani]

This would be a valid belief if monarchies hadn’t changed hands dozens of times.

Sure, but how many of those lines that have held the throne are still alive?

The pickings are pretty slim once you get to the modern age.

Which kind of makes illegitimate any monarchy that didn’t have the throne from the start.

[Salus Maior]

Sure, but how many of those lines that have held the throne are still alive?

The pickings are pretty slim once you get to the modern age.

Which kind of makes illegitimate any monarchy that didn’t have the throne from the start.

All the monarchies are related though, because its chosen by relation to who had the throne last.

For instance, the English throne has been through multiple Houses, but even today Queen Elizabeth can trace her ancestry back to King Alfred the Great of Wessex.

So in a sense, Queen Elizabeth's line has held the throne from the start. Even if it isn't a direct line.

[Luminesa]

Both of your threads are very nice, everyone gets a biscuit.

Cheddar biscuits?

[Luminesa]

I'd say I'm in the center of the political spectrum: Dorothy Day is right about everything.

Based Dorothy Day.

[Luminesa]

Not even on motorcycles?

ATTENTION DUELISTS, my hair is telling me that this reference belongs back in 2009.

So do most of the memes I reference, but who said I was trendy?

[Cappuccina]

i can't think of anything more sophomoric than having an argument over which thread is better

Le bestest thread.

The RWDT does have more interesting convo, imo. The LWDT tends to be rather drab.

[Fahran]

I'm late to the party but I pray it is fashionably so.