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Thoughts on rebooting?

1: Yes, reboot
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76%
2: A reboot is ok, but not now
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3: Don't reboot
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Total votes : 25

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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Founded: Dec 07, 2018
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:22 pm

Yaruqo wrote:Like I'm not trying to be an ass here, but you're engaging in a three way guerilla war against two empires in three provinces that are distinctly different from each other and large. Soviet support is gonna be difficult to mobilize and arrange. Logistics may not be in your favor, especially if Britain and Belgium decided to more actively fight the ALA. My 8 ball doesn't have a good prediction for this.

It's all planned.

Also, we're only fighting in Kinshasa, the coastal regions of the Angola and the DRC and the urban areas of South Africa at the moment. It's a very messy situation.
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“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Lemlar
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Postby Lemlar » Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:25 pm

The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:
Lemlar wrote:Run it thru USSR and then across Black Sea


Persia, a pro-nato monarchy, is going to cooperate with the Soviet Union, to build a stupidly long pipeline, to the Eastern Balkans...

so two nations even with different ideologies cant work with each other? The US a secular republic supports KSA which is a theocratic dictatorship IRL.
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Yaruqo
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Postby Yaruqo » Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:28 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Yaruqo wrote:Like I'm not trying to be an ass here, but you're engaging in a three way guerilla war against two empires in three provinces that are distinctly different from each other and large. Soviet support is gonna be difficult to mobilize and arrange. Logistics may not be in your favor, especially if Britain and Belgium decided to more actively fight the ALA. My 8 ball doesn't have a good prediction for this.

It's all planned.

Also, we're only fighting in Kinshasa, the coastal regions of the Angola and the DRC and the urban areas of South Africa at the moment. It's a very messy situation.


I feel like you're going to need to reach out to the Belgian Congo player, if they haven't left the RP, because I don't know how well they will like the idea of their capital and their small coastline under siege by ALA at the start. I can't help but feel that this is so disorganized it's gonna collapse. I honestly don't think ALA or what have you is in any position to force Britain to the table. And again, there is the issue of the logistics of Soviet aid getting to ALA in British and Belgian territory.

Also, is De Klair white?
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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:35 pm

Yaruqo wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:It's all planned.

Also, we're only fighting in Kinshasa, the coastal regions of the Angola and the DRC and the urban areas of South Africa at the moment. It's a very messy situation.


I feel like you're going to need to reach out to the Belgian Congo player, if they haven't left the RP, because I don't know how well they will like the idea of their capital and their small coastline under siege by ALA at the start. I can't help but feel that this is so disorganized it's gonna collapse. I honestly don't think ALA or what have you is in any position to force Britain to the table. And again, there is the issue of the logistics of Soviet aid getting to ALA in British and Belgian territory.

Also, is De Klair white?

Yes, Afrikaans. Hence the name. Tbh, his name was just a gag, but a gag I'm willing to stick with.
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“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Dentali
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Postby Dentali » Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:49 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Yaruqo wrote:
I feel like you're going to need to reach out to the Belgian Congo player, if they haven't left the RP, because I don't know how well they will like the idea of their capital and their small coastline under siege by ALA at the start. I can't help but feel that this is so disorganized it's gonna collapse. I honestly don't think ALA or what have you is in any position to force Britain to the table. And again, there is the issue of the logistics of Soviet aid getting to ALA in British and Belgian territory.

Also, is De Klair white?

Yes, Afrikaans. Hence the name. Tbh, his name was just a gag, but a gag I'm willing to stick with.



Facepalm okay so this white dude is uniting hundreds of tribal peoples who have spent centuries resisting white colonialists? A man who does not speak their language or come from their culture? Fuck its the white savior trope thats racist as hell
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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:54 pm

Dentali wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:Yes, Afrikaans. Hence the name. Tbh, his name was just a gag, but a gag I'm willing to stick with.



Facepalm okay so this white dude is uniting hundreds of tribal peoples who have spent centuries resisting white colonialists? A man who does not speak their language or come from their culture? Fuck its the white savior trope thats racist as hell

I didn't mean it like that, tbh. I just intended it for a joke from another RP. I'll have him leave office soon, once I find a good reason to do so.

EDIT: Although it is worth noting that a, he can speak a few major tribal languages and that b, the Dutch South Africans were the first ethnic group to be put in concentration camps. Maybe they don't have the same skin colour, but they're both still oppressed.
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Dentali
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Postby Dentali » Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:59 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Dentali wrote:

Facepalm okay so this white dude is uniting hundreds of tribal peoples who have spent centuries resisting white colonialists? A man who does not speak their language or come from their culture? Fuck its the white savior trope thats racist as hell

I didn't mean it like that, tbh. I just intended it for a joke from another RP. I'll have him leave office soon, once I find a good reason to do so.

EDIT: Although it is worth noting that a, he can speak a few major tribal languages and that b, the Dutch South Africans were the first ethnic group to be put in concentration camps. Maybe they don't have the same skin colour, but they're both still oppressed.


WCC I am seriously considering having you just scrap your entire faction and rewrite it from the beginning. it makes 0 sense from beginning to end
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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:01 pm

Dentali wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:I didn't mean it like that, tbh. I just intended it for a joke from another RP. I'll have him leave office soon, once I find a good reason to do so.

EDIT: Although it is worth noting that a, he can speak a few major tribal languages and that b, the Dutch South Africans were the first ethnic group to be put in concentration camps. Maybe they don't have the same skin colour, but they're both still oppressed.


WCC I am seriously considering having you just scrap your entire faction and rewrite it from the beginning. it makes 0 sense from beginning to end

Wait, I was allowed to do that?

If I knew I was allowed to, I would've done so a long time ago.
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Lemlar
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Postby Lemlar » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:05 pm

Dentali wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:I didn't mean it like that, tbh. I just intended it for a joke from another RP. I'll have him leave office soon, once I find a good reason to do so.

EDIT: Although it is worth noting that a, he can speak a few major tribal languages and that b, the Dutch South Africans were the first ethnic group to be put in concentration camps. Maybe they don't have the same skin colour, but they're both still oppressed.


WCC I am seriously considering having you just scrap your entire faction and rewrite it from the beginning. it makes 0 sense from beginning to end

He could have it be where he wants to unite the White South African populations Inc, Afrikaners, Boers, British South Africans etc..
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Epstein didn't kill himself

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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:13 pm

Name of faction: The United African Commune
Leader: Thomas Valker (Born Karil Melape)
Influence (number of members and power): Supported by about 80% of the population, but only 40% actually consider themselves communists, as most of the other 40% are liberal anti-imperialists. 50,000 trained troops, 150,000 militias and 300,000 conscripts.
Base of operations: Angola (major, capital), Zimbabwe (significant, urban), Namibia (significant, resources)
Goals Gain independence from Portugal and the UK
History: The United African Commune began organising itself in the 1930s, recruiting people underground for a 'grand attack' on Western imperialism. After establishing several radio stations and spreading news underground, it finally went public in 1945, declaring its war against the Western nations. The war has been going well so far, as the resistance continues...
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Greater Liverpool
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Postby Greater Liverpool » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:21 pm

What is all that is holy in Brazilian coffee going on here?
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Northern Poland
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Postby Northern Poland » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:36 pm

Greater Liverpool wrote:What is all that is holy in Brazilian coffee going on here?

sorry, only Columbian coffee here

or Panamanian
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Greater Liverpool
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Postby Greater Liverpool » Thu Oct 03, 2019 2:45 pm

Northern Poland wrote:
Greater Liverpool wrote:What is all that is holy in Brazilian coffee going on here?

sorry, only Columbian coffee here

or Panamanian


Sad times also to the person playing America I know you sent me an defensive alliance should have made it clearer that I had accepted my bad.
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The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune
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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:54 pm

The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Name of faction: The United African Commune
Leader: Thomas Valker (Born Karil Melape)
Influence (number of members and power): Supported by about 80% of the population, but only 40% actually consider themselves communists, as most of the other 40% are liberal anti-imperialists. 50,000 trained troops, 150,000 militias and 300,000 conscripts.
Base of operations: Angola (major, capital), Zimbabwe (significant, urban), Namibia (significant, resources)
Goals Gain independence from Portugal and the UK
History: The United African Commune began organising itself in the 1930s, recruiting people underground for a 'grand attack' on Western imperialism. After establishing several radio stations and spreading news underground, it finally went public in 1945, declaring its war against the Western nations. The war has been going well so far, as the resistance continues...


That's still a huge area, and most of it is a hell hole to fight in. Look at the majority of African rebel movements, they're nomadic and spend most of their time in a contained area of the land that they can then rush out of and rush back in. Focus on one country at a time man, and also do some research into the countries culture so you can explain why these often very divided nations suddenly have 80% of people supporting one rebel movement.

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The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune
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Postby The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:57 pm

Lemlar wrote:
The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:
Persia, a pro-nato monarchy, is going to cooperate with the Soviet Union, to build a stupidly long pipeline, to the Eastern Balkans...

so two nations even with different ideologies cant work with each other? The US a secular republic supports KSA which is a theocratic dictatorship IRL.


Democracies can be felixble by nature, but no, any actual monarchy or socialist country would be vehemently opposed to one another. They are fundamentally opposed to each other. And the Soviet Union, particularly under Stalin, has a far larger hate boner for monarchy than most socialist nations.

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Lemlar
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Postby Lemlar » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:05 pm

The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Name of faction: The United African Commune
Leader: Thomas Valker (Born Karil Melape)
Influence (number of members and power): Supported by about 80% of the population, but only 40% actually consider themselves communists, as most of the other 40% are liberal anti-imperialists. 50,000 trained troops, 150,000 militias and 300,000 conscripts.
Base of operations: Angola (major, capital), Zimbabwe (significant, urban), Namibia (significant, resources)
Goals Gain independence from Portugal and the UK
History: The United African Commune began organising itself in the 1930s, recruiting people underground for a 'grand attack' on Western imperialism. After establishing several radio stations and spreading news underground, it finally went public in 1945, declaring its war against the Western nations. The war has been going well so far, as the resistance continues...


That's still a huge area, and most of it is a hell hole to fight in. Look at the majority of African rebel movements, they're nomadic and spend most of their time in a contained area of the land that they can then rush out of and rush back in. Focus on one country at a time man, and also do some research into the countries culture so you can explain why these often very divided nations suddenly have 80% of people supporting one rebel movement.

Nambia would be best for him to start on as it only has around 435,000 people as of 1950 (my source only goes to 1950.)
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The Persian State
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Postby The Persian State » Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:16 pm

Lemlar wrote:
The Persian State wrote:Well just helping out of the goodness of heart then?

We could create a pipeline from your nation to ours.

yeah it can be an idea but there is a threat of the pipeline being susceptable to an attack
Persian Empire basically

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Asardia
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Postby Asardia » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:35 pm

I don't know what just happened but it seemed it's been resolve now

Greater Seludong wrote:I repeated my registration as a revolutionary government instead.

Country Name: Kataas-taasang, Kagalang-galangang Katipunan ng mga Anak ng Bayan (KKK)
Head of State/Government: Manuel Roxas (supremo of the organization)
Type of Government: revolutionary government
Capital: Manila (claimed)
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here):
Claimed area
(Image)

Population: 1, 874, 092 (rebel count according to rebel sources)
Faction: non-aligned
History:
After the Second World War, as the US seized the Philippines and did not keep the promise of freedom, members of the Congress of the former Commonwealth created new groups, both moderate and radical, to force the US government to culminate the occupation of the Philippines.

On March 3, 1946, a riot happened just 5 meters away from the outskirts of Camp McKinley in Taguig, part of the metropolitan area of Manila. The riot, initiated by the communist Hukbong Bayan Laban sa mga Hapones or the Hukbalahap, was immediately suppressed by the United States Armed Forces in the Far East (USAFFE) and resulted into a massacre. This caused huge outrage among the populace and almost all Filipino Commonwealth officials resigned their positions (in fact, the Congress only remained with only one member of the House of Representatives and no Senators.) Filipino members of the USAFFE also created their own paramilitary groups.

Manuel Roxas was then elected as the President of the Pambansang Hukbo para sa Kasarinlan (PHK), composed of mostly pro-Nacionalista Party. He initiated meetings with other revolutionary groups, including Hukbalahap, and re-established the Katipunan, a revolutionary government made on 1894. As the people as increasingly discontent with American rule, more and more Filipinos joined the Hukbong Rebolusyonaryo, the militaristic arm of the Katipunan. Roxas was then elected as the Supremo at the Convention of the Biak-na-Bato.


Is there any reason the US decided not to allow the Philipines to be independent after WW2? (And the US player has been inactive lately too..)

Someone also asked a political alliance map: https://i.imgur.com/2LHDbAP.png
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Chinese Kaohsiung
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Postby Chinese Kaohsiung » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:45 pm

Country Name: Republic of Malaysia
Head of State/Government: President Yusof bin Ishak Prime Minsiter Lee Kuan Yew
Type of Government:Unitary dominant-party parliamentary constitutional republic
Capital City: Singapore:
Map/location Present day Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei
Population 8.5 million people:
Faction Non aligned but pro NATO:
History: After World War Two, The Malayan Union, established in 1946, and consisting of all the British possessions in the Malay Peninsula, was quickly dissolved under local pressure and replaced on 1 February 1948 by the Federation of Malaya, which restored the autonomy of the rulers of the Malay states under British protection.During this time, mostly rebels under the leadership of the Malayan Communist Party launched guerrilla operations designed to force the British out of Malaya.On 31 August 1957, Malaysia became an independent nation after coming into agreement with the MCP. The MCP would disband and Malaysia would become independent, British forces are still allowed to base their forces in the territory.


(Yeah. Ik the British Empire is still a thing but please can I have this?)

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Hypron
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Postby Hypron » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:52 pm

Chinese Kaohsiung wrote:
Country Name: Republic of Malaysia
Head of State/Government: President Yusof bin Ishak Prime Minsiter Lee Kuan Yew
Type of Government:Unitary dominant-party parliamentary constitutional republic
Capital City: Singapore:
Map/location Present day Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei
Population 8.5 million people:
Faction Non aligned but pro NATO:
History: After World War Two, The Malayan Union, established in 1946, and consisting of all the British possessions in the Malay Peninsula, was quickly dissolved under local pressure and replaced on 1 February 1948 by the Federation of Malaya, which restored the autonomy of the rulers of the Malay states under British protection.During this time, mostly rebels under the leadership of the Malayan Communist Party launched guerrilla operations designed to force the British out of Malaya.On 31 August 1957, Malaysia became an independent nation after coming into agreement with the MCP. The MCP would disband and Malaysia would become independent, British forces are still allowed to base their forces in the territory.


(Yeah. Ik the British Empire is still a thing but please can I have this?)


If i get Singapore, i don't care if you join as Malaysia. You can have everything else except Singapore.
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Asardia
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Postby Asardia » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:54 pm

Chinese Kaohsiung wrote:
Country Name: Republic of Malaysia
Head of State/Government: President Yusof bin Ishak Prime Minsiter Lee Kuan Yew
Type of Government:Unitary dominant-party parliamentary constitutional republic
Capital City: Singapore:
Map/location Present day Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei
Population 8.5 million people:
Faction Non aligned but pro NATO:
History: After World War Two, The Malayan Union, established in 1946, and consisting of all the British possessions in the Malay Peninsula, was quickly dissolved under local pressure and replaced on 1 February 1948 by the Federation of Malaya, which restored the autonomy of the rulers of the Malay states under British protection.During this time, mostly rebels under the leadership of the Malayan Communist Party launched guerrilla operations designed to force the British out of Malaya.On 31 August 1957, Malaysia became an independent nation after coming into agreement with the MCP. The MCP would disband and Malaysia would become independent, British forces are still allowed to base their forces in the territory.


(Yeah. Ik the British Empire is still a thing but please can I have this?)


I would accept this app. Just in case, check with Hypron. I see no issues with this app, except Malaya became independent in 1957, and the rest of the territories were united in the 60s to form Malaysia . They still seemed to be rather autonomous even during the Malayan Emergency
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Chinese Kaohsiung
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Postby Chinese Kaohsiung » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:57 pm

Hypron wrote:
Chinese Kaohsiung wrote:
Country Name: Republic of Malaysia
Head of State/Government: President Yusof bin Ishak Prime Minsiter Lee Kuan Yew
Type of Government:Unitary dominant-party parliamentary constitutional republic
Capital City: Singapore:
Map/location Present day Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei
Population 8.5 million people:
Faction Non aligned but pro NATO:
History: After World War Two, The Malayan Union, established in 1946, and consisting of all the British possessions in the Malay Peninsula, was quickly dissolved under local pressure and replaced on 1 February 1948 by the Federation of Malaya, which restored the autonomy of the rulers of the Malay states under British protection.During this time, mostly rebels under the leadership of the Malayan Communist Party launched guerrilla operations designed to force the British out of Malaya.On 31 August 1957, Malaysia became an independent nation after coming into agreement with the MCP. The MCP would disband and Malaysia would become independent, British forces are still allowed to base their forces in the territory.


(Yeah. Ik the British Empire is still a thing but please can I have this?)


If i get Singapore, i don't care if you join as Malaysia. You can have everything else except Singapore.


Damn it I wanted Singapore as well. I mean can we come to a compromise? like u can retain control over the military bases there I pay you money for basing your troops

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The World Capitalist Confederation
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Postby The World Capitalist Confederation » Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:38 pm

The Anarcho-Syndicalist Commune wrote:
The World Capitalist Confederation wrote:
Name of faction: The United African Commune
Leader: Thomas Valker (Born Karil Melape)
Influence (number of members and power): Supported by about 80% of the population, but only 40% actually consider themselves communists, as most of the other 40% are liberal anti-imperialists. 50,000 trained troops, 150,000 militias and 300,000 conscripts.
Base of operations: Angola (major, capital), Zimbabwe (significant, urban), Namibia (significant, resources)
Goals Gain independence from Portugal and the UK
History: The United African Commune began organising itself in the 1930s, recruiting people underground for a 'grand attack' on Western imperialism. After establishing several radio stations and spreading news underground, it finally went public in 1945, declaring its war against the Western nations. The war has been going well so far, as the resistance continues...


That's still a huge area, and most of it is a hell hole to fight in. Look at the majority of African rebel movements, they're nomadic and spend most of their time in a contained area of the land that they can then rush out of and rush back in. Focus on one country at a time man, and also do some research into the countries culture so you can explain why these often very divided nations suddenly have 80% of people supporting one rebel movement.

We've just taken the mines and stuff in Zimbabwe and Namibia to fuel the war effort. Most of our troops are in Angola.
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“We could manage to survive without the money changers and stockbrokers, but we would rather find it difficult to survive without miners, steel workers and those who cultivate the land.” - Nye Bevan, Minister of Health under Clement Attlee

“The mutual-aid tendency in man has so remote an origin, and is so deeply interwoven with all the past evolution of the human race, that is has been maintained by mankind up to the present time, notwithstanding all vicissitudes of history.” - Peter Krotopkin, evolutionary biologist and political writer.

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Nea Byzantia
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Postby Nea Byzantia » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:18 am

Anybody want to app as the Greek Communist Movement? Its boring to fight a Civil War alone...

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Postby Nea Byzantia » Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:51 am

Nea Byzantia wrote:WIP
Country Name: Empire of the Hellenes| Greece
Head of State/Government: Emperor Constantine XII (ruled: 1940 AD - Present); Empress Mother Aspasia; Chancellor Dimitrios Giatzis (ruled: 1948 AD - Present)
Type of Government: Constitutional Monarchy/Military Dictatorship
Capital: Constantinople
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here) Greece, European Turkey, Cyprus
Population: 7 million people
Faction: NATO
History:
In 1917, after the end of the National Schism, Greece joined WWI on the side of the Allied Powers. They successfully pushed into European Turkey, right up to the outskirts of Istanbul, by the time the war ended, in November 1918. In Summer of 1919, Venizelos ordered an expedition into Asia Minor to liberate the Greek population there, still chafing under Turkish oppression. By 1920, the expedition was a success, and the Ottoman Sultan was forced to sign the Treaty of Sevres; recognizing Greece's gains. In 1921, the British gave Constantinople, which they had occupied since 1918, into Greek hands, after Venizelos signed the Adrianople Accord, which promised international access to the Bosporus Straits. With Constantinople in Greek hands, King Alexander I was crowned Emperor of the Hellenes. The Turks of Istanbul (Constantinople) were driven from the City; and were deported from Greek territory altogether, by Venizelos' orders.

The situation was not stable, however, and did not last very long. In 1923, the Ottoman Sultan was overthrown in a military coup and replaced by a cadre of nationalist military officers, keen on driving the Greeks from Anatolia. They caught the Greeks by surprise, and within a few months, captured Smyrna, and drove the Greeks right into the sea. Emperor Alexandros, who very much resented Venizelos, for having exiled his father, Constantine, during the National Schism, invited back the Royalist Officers who had gone into exile; chief of which, Ioannis Metaxas. He then dismissed Venizelos as Prime Minister, and appointed in his place, Metaxas. As the Turks were advancing on Constantinople, Metaxas took charge of the defence of the City. At the same time, as he was preparing the defence, Metaxas was also purging the Venizelists, and replacing them with his own Royalist cronies. In early 1925, the Turks reached Constantinople, and attempted to seize it, but were repulsed. Metaxas offered the Turks terms, but they refused to hear of it. The war dragged on, with the Turks being unable to take the City, and the Greeks unable to drive them further back into Anatolia, the war ground to a standstill.

The Greco-Turkish War dragged on in a stalemate until the Stock Market Crash of 1929, when both Greece and Turkey being struck by economic difficulties, agreed to a ceasefire. The War had left Greece semi-successful but in a bad economic situation. Eager to take advantage of the chaotic political and economic situation, Venizelos, who had taken asylum in France following his ousting from office by Emperor Alexandros, back in 1923, plotted his return to power. In 1931, he landed on his home island of Crete, where he was much beloved, and missed by the local people, and there, he sought to repeat the formula of his success in 1917; and proclaimed himself Prime Minister in Irakleion. With the help of former Venizelist officers who had gone into exile with him, the local support of the Cretans, and with the tacit blessing of France; Venizelos was able to take over Crete and even win some of the neighbouring islands to him. The "Venizelist Fever" as it was called, also spread to islands under the "protection" of Foreign Powers, such as the Italian controlled Dodecanese, and the British controlled Cyprus. Both of these regions shook off British and Italian occupation, respectively, and joined themselves to Venizelos' "Hellenic Republic".

These developments raised the ire of the Great Powers of Britain and Italy; and this was seized upon by the politically astute Metaxas; who requested British and Italian aid to put down the Venizelist Revolt. In early 1932, the Venizelists attempted to seize the port of Kalamata, on the south of the Pelopponese; but they were repulsed by the battle-hardened military garrison there, and pushed back into the sea. In March, another Venizelist uprising occurred in the major northern Greek port of Thessaloniki. The military garrison there was unable to put down the revolt there, and the city was lost. Metaxas gathered an army and marched to Thessaloniki himself to put down the uprising. Also present to help the Imperial Government were forces sent by King Alexander I (ruled: 1918 - 1934) of Yugoslavia. By August, after a siege lasting several months; Thessaloniki was taken by the Imperialists. This reversal was followed by the arrival of an Italian Expeditionary Force as well as the British Royal Navy in the region. In conjunction with the Imperial Greek Navy and Army, the combined forces landed on Venizelos' stronghold of Crete; and trapped the would-be Prime Minister in his makeshift capital of Irakleion. The city fell to the British, Italian, and Greek Imperial forces in September, but during the chaos, Venizelos managed to escape to Cyprus. Throughout the remainder of 1932, and dragging on into 1933-1934, the coalition forces hopped from island to island, subduing the Venizelist garrisons and restoring Imperial rule over these areas. In 1934, Venizelos fled Cyprus for the safety of the French Mandate of Lebanon. He remained in comfortable exile in Beirut, in a swanky villa provided by the French Government; breathing his threats until his death in 1936.

After the subsiding of the "Venizelist Fever" (1931-1934), things calmed down for a very short time; but this was merely surface-level. Prime Minister Metaxas used the Venizelist uprising to his own advantage, to tighten his hold on the Government; something which the indolent Emperor Alexandros I not only did nothing to hinder, but actually encouraged. Metaxas was granted emergency powers and named as Chancellor of the Hellenic Empire. He created a secret police force known as the Security Battalions; with which he hunted down all Venizelists as well as Communists, Liberals, and anybody remotely Left-wing, labelling them "disturbers of the peace". In 1935, Metaxas signed trade and defence pacts with Benito Mussolini of Italy, and the aforementioned King Alexander I of Yugoslavia. He also maintained balanced and friendly relations with both Britain, and a resurgent German Reich. Using fund obtained from international trade, the Imperial Government rebuilt destroyed sections of Constantinople in a grand, new Hellenic Classical style (including the illustrious Blachernae Palace; built on the ruins of the Ottoman Sultan's Palace); roads and railroads throughout the country, etc. Meanwhile, the harsh persecutions against the "disturbers of the peace" encouraged the formation of underground political and revolutionary societies dedicated to the overthrowing of the Imperial Regime. However, they were forced to remain in hiding; and festered in secret.

In September of 1939, World War II was kicked off when Germany invaded Poland. Metaxas proclaimed neutrality, and maintained trade and diplomatic relations with both Britain and Germany. In February of 1940, Emperor Alexandros I died in a boating accident in the Sea of Marmara. His young, 13 year old son, Constantine became Emperor Constantine XII (Constantine XI was the last Byzantine Emperor, who died in 1453); with his mother, Empress Aspasia, and Chancellor Metaxas, assuming the Regency. In foreign affairs, things took a turn for the worst as well, as Fascist Italy became increasingly assertive and aggressive; and this pushed Metaxas to distance Greece from Italy and rely more on Britain; however, Metaxas also continued keeping good ties with Nazi Germany, hoping that Hitler would back him up against an increasingly belicose Mussolini. On October 28th, 1940, Mussolini issued an ultimatum to the Greek Government in Constantinople. Metaxas uttered his famous "Oxi", and the war began. Italian attempts to invade Greece through Albania were easily thwarted by General Alexandros Papagos; and Mussolini was forced to lick his wounds for the time being. British attempts to sway Metaxas to the Allied cause fell on deaf ears; as Metaxas was still reaching out to Berlin, hoping that Hitler would step in to mediate the situation, and Greece could return to neutrality. Alas, it was not to be, as Metaxas died suddenly in late January of 1941, after reigning 11 years as Prime Minister and 7 as Chancellor. In February, General Papagos marched on Constantinople, with the City garrison joining him on the way. The Blachernae Palace was surrounded, Empress Aspasia was deposed as Regent and exiled to a Monastery; and the Regency was assumed by Papagos himself. Within the month, the new Regent, officially joined the Allies, and a British Expeditionary Force had set itself up in Constantinople.

This coup prompted the Germans to invade Yugoslavia and Greece in April of 1941, so as to secure their southern flank. By the end of May, most of Greece was overrun by the Germans with the exception of East Thrace and Constantinople. Fearing the Fall of the City, Papagos took the young Emperor Constantine and the entire Court to flee into exile on a British battleship; but alas, they were captured at Gallipoli by the German Army. News of the Emperor's capture, caused the GReek defenders of East Thrace and Constantinople to wither; and the British Expeditionary Force packed up and escaped east through neutral Turkey. On June 1st, the Germans entered Constantinople. General Papagos was imprisoned in Germany, and the young Emperor was escorted back to Constantinople by the German Army. Hitler appointed Hermann Neubacher, an Austrian Nazi, as German Plenipotentiary of the Balkans, and also as Regent for the young Emperor Constantine. As such, Neubacher took up residence in the Blachernae Palace, and chose to run all his affairs from there; to this end, he annexed Yugoslavia to the Hellenic Empire (which was at this point a German puppet-state); this allowed the Germans to coordinate their occupation over a larger area, but it also allowed the Communist resistance forces to coordinate with each other much easier as well. Terrorist actions against the German occupiers by the Partisan forces became incredibly common; and German reprisals were just as harsh. Due to the brutality of the German occupation; many Greeks were in favour of the Resistance, and as such public opinion began to turn against the Imperial Government in Constantinople, which was understood to be a German puppet-state.

On March 25th 1942, however, events in Constantinople took an interesting turn, when the 15 year old Emperor Constantine XII publicly dismissed Neubacher as Regent, and kindly thanked the Germans for their "protection of his domain, and to kindly leave the country" (this happened as they were leaving the church service at the Cathedral of Aghia Sophia). Neubacher simply had the youth locked up in the Blachernae Palace, and continued to rule. While this act had zero practical difference, it symbolically separated the Emperor from the German occupiers, and a of support for the young monarch spread throughout the more traditionalist sectors of the occupied Greek nation. Right-wing resistance movements who wanted to "liberate the Emperor from his German captors" began to arise; and the Communists lost the monopoly on resisting the Germans. These right-wing, Monarchist partisans were especially supported by Britain and the United States, as an alternative to the pro-Soviet Communist resistance forces. For fear of similar such gaffes, Neubacher confined the Emperor to the Palace and did not allow him to go out in public; as such rumours began to swirl throughout the Capital that Neubacher had killed the Emperor and was simply ruling in his name. After about a year of being grounded in the Palace, the Emperor was allowed to attend church in the Aghia Sophia. As the Emperor walked into the church, for the Christmas Eve Vigil, the people crowded him and cheered, overwhelming his German "bodyguards". The young Emperor was whisked away by the Priest and the Deacons. The right-wing resistance groups successfully smuggled him out of the City via Constantinople's underground passages, and he made his way safely to Cyprus. From Nicosia, Constantine XII proclaimed himself Emperor of the Hellenes'; declared the Regency null and void and the Germans as invaders and usurpers. Upon hearing of this, Neubacher proclaimed himself Emperor of the Hellenes as Emperor Ermanos I, on December 31st, 1943. This cut out whatever cartoonish amount of legitimacy remained in the German occupation of Greece.

The British and Americans funneled in all manner of weapons to the right-wing Greek resistance groups, and the Soviets did the same for the Communist Greeks and Yugoslavs. As of January of 1944, the region exploded with terrorist attacks and uprisings; with the Right and the Left competing to see who could outdo the other in harming the German occupiers. Vast pockets of the country became "ungovernable" to the Germans. By Summer of 1944, most of the Islands had declared for Emperor Constantine XII and were successfully liberated by the British and Americans; and conversely, most of Yugoslavia and Greek Makedonia were in the hands of the Communist rebels. In July of 1944, Thessaloniki was seized by the Communist rebels; with the Germans being driven eastward into Thrace, towards Constantinople. As such, the Germans forces were cut in two. In August, with the Soviets pushing through Eastern Europe towards Berlin, Hitler ordered most of the German troops in the Balkans to pull back North towards Germany proper. He did order the troops in Thrace and Constantinople to keep hold of the Bosporus Straits, and buttress Emperor Ermanos' tottering throne. In October of 1944, Gallipoli was liberated by a massive, combined, Greek, British and American force; and this opened the way to Constantinople. News of this, threw the people of Constantinople into riotous jubilation. Each took paving stones, pitchforks and torches in hand and marched towards the Blachernae Palace. The German troops, exhausted by years of fighting, and resentful themselves of Ermanos' cruelty and pomposity stood down; some even joined the Greeks in dragging Ermanos and his Staff from the Palace, and tearing them apart in the streets. The remaining German forces retreated from Constantinople to Adrianople. Within a day of this, the Allies landed in Constantinople, and secured the City. Emperor Constantine returned to the Capital a week later, and was welcomed by cheering crowds. He was properly coronated as Emperor in November of 1944. With the Germans gone, the right-wing Monarchist partisans and left-wing Communist partisans began fighting each other for control of the country. Most of the Islands, the Peloponnese and Thessaly were solidly Monarchist; but Athens, its environs, as well as Thessaloniki and Makedonia were pro-Communist.

After the final defeat and surrender of Nazi Germany, in May 1945, General Papagos was released from imprisonment in Germany, and allowed to return to Greece. Due to his status as a war-hero, and reputation as a great military leader; and the rising crisis, Emperor Constantine named Papagos as Imperial Chancellor. Papagos' first actions were to begin drafting young men from Monarchist regions; so as to rebuild the Greek Imperial Military; but in the interim, Papagos relied on American and British troops posted in Greece, to help deal with the Communist Partisans. In July, Greece signed a Defensive Pact with Britain and the United States; and granted them naval bases on Crete and Cyprus. In September of 1945, Greek, British, and American forces seized Piraeus and conquered Athens. The Communist Partisans there, made a final stand on the Acropolis, but they were eventually crushed. Meanwhile, guerrilla fighting continued in the countryside of Attica. After these events, the Greek Communist leadership in Thessaloniki, proclaimed the Hellenic Socialist Republic, and declared the Imperial Government to be "Fascist". This amounted essentially to a declaration of war.

Papagos wasted no time in making war on self-styled Republic. The Greek Army, along with forces from the British Expeditionary Force stationed in Constantinople advanced on Thessaloniki, surrounding both by land and by sea. The city was under siege; as the Communists had too strong of a hold inside the city, for it to be immediately assaulted. The siege began in November of 1945, and dragged on for a year and a half. In May of 1947, the Imperialist forces entered the city; but the fight was not over. What followed were several weeks of bloody street fighting between the Greek Army and the Communists; as the Imperialists had to fight their way through street barricades, set up by the Communists. While the city was officially subdued on June 29th, 1947, much of the Communist leadership of the Hellenic Socialist Republic fled to Tito's Yugoslavia; proclaiming a "Government-in-Exile". This defeat caused the Communist insurgency in Greece to die down for a very short time. In the meantime, Papagos and the Army continued hunting down Communist cells in the countryside of Makedonia, where they were strongest. Many more fled to Yugoslavia. In February of 1948, Emperor Constantine brought back his mother, Aspasia from exile. As the Regency was abolished, she was not reinstated as Empress Regent, but rather as Empress Mother; and the young 21 year old Emperor took her advice very seriously. Fearing he would suffer for his role in toppling Empress Aspasia some 7 years earlier, Papagos resigned as Chancellor in March of 1948, and in his place, the young Emperor appointed Lieutenant-General Dimitrios Giatzis; Chief of the Imperial Army General Staff.

Anybody want to help me write the history, insofar, as involving their countries in the conflict outlined below.

I brought the history up to 1948, am I close enough to the start of the RP?

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