MAGAThread XVI: Raising the Barr

[Totally Not OEP]

Nobody realizes it because you've literally just made this up by yourself. As I said, where the fuck has that been written by anyone lol?

I didn’t make this shit up, American Evangelicals did.

do you expect them to come out and openly say “we literally think the Second Coming is about to happen and all the people we don’t like are going to get tortured to death (that’s also why we don’t give a fuck about climate change)”. I’m on mobile rn so you’ll have to wait if you want me to drag out news articles and academic papers

So, in other words, you lied. You can't say they made it up when you have literally no proof they ever said it in the first place. That's called lying. Either cite something or admit it at this point.

[Telconi]

On the contrary San Lumen, I could see us so angry we would vote for Pence and all our fellow Republicans, I know I would, and like I said we cant allow a leftist like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren win including Joe Biden.

I think Pence would meet the same fate as Ford. He doesnt have the rallying power Trump does. He also holds extreme positions like supporting conversion therapy.

That's an extreme position to you. Not to Republicans.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

I didn’t make this shit up, American Evangelicals did.

do you expect them to come out and openly say “we literally think the Second Coming is about to happen and all the people we don’t like are going to get tortured to death (that’s also why we don’t give a fuck about climate change)”. I’m on mobile rn so you’ll have to wait if you want me to drag out news articles and academic papers

So, in other words, you lied. You can't say they made it up when you have literally no proof they ever said it in the first place. That's called lying. Either cite something or admit it at this point.

no, I didn’t lie. I just don’t consider digging up sources on mobile for someone who’s going to deny it no matter what because they want to believe their country isn’t like this particularly appealing.

but if you want proof they’re anti-Semitic as fuck (not their opinions on the Second Coming, I’m afraid) start with Billy Graham’s fun discussions with Richard Nixon about Jews and the media

[Valrifell]

...You do know when a candidate picks their VP, riiight?

Hint: it's towards the end or after primary season.

Yes, I also known that candidates often start releasing things like who they will probably pick as VP before then and, perhaps more importantly for 2016, who they will select for SCOTUS.

Pence was publicly announced to be Trump's pick July 14th, a full four days before the Republican National Convention and after it was clear Trump would win the nod.

So, looking back I'm kinda confused as to what your point in this argument is. You started out saying that Pence was essential for Trump winning the evangelical vote, which is a stance I'd broadly agree with for the general election. But then you contradict yourself by saying Ted Cruz lost the nod because evangelicals were trending Trump, during a time when Pence wasn't even in the American public consciousness.

[Gormwood]

pretty sure Trump would’ve won the Evangelical vote even without Pence, he’s constantly shown that he’s willing to go along with their apocalyptic anti-semitism everyone who isn’t them

No, it was tied pretty closely to him embracing Pence and moving in that direction polling wise; Ted Cruz was the early favorite for them.

As for Evangelicals, TFW the most consistently Pro-Israel group in America, more than even American Jews, is Anti-Semitic.

When the only reason you support Israel is because you were told it will one day burn to send a Bat Signal to Jesus for The Second Coming...

[Greater Miami Shores]

I think Pence would meet the same fate as Ford. He doesnt have the rallying power Trump does. He also holds extreme positions like supporting conversion therapy.

That's an extreme position to you. Not to Republicans.

Correct Telconi. While I would support Pence because I cant support Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren or Joe Biden, if Pence is anti gay I would still vote for him for all the other reasons I agree with him on especially on my pet issue on NS. But personally as a Republican no one should discriminate against Thermy for being gay.

On this thread and all threads.
I think we should all do as I do and not report any of our fellow nations for any reasons we can think of to hurt our fellow nations, not even the RPs are safe anymore on NS, that is said very said.

What gets me the most is those with very dirty records reporting on those with clean records, and those told by the Mods I don't see anything wrong, keep insisting to hurt our fellow nations with a second opinion they have a right too, on threads and posts that have nothing to do with them. How dare I try to get a fellow nation's General and RP threads locked like has been done to me many times.

[Miss Defied]

thank you for proving that pretty much nobody realises that this is a key element of the Republican Party and American foreign policy.

Nobody realizes it because you've literally just made this up by yourself. As I said, where the fuck has that been written by anyone lol?

Nah, its a thing:
https://www.politicalresearch.org/2016/08/18/dominionism-rising-a-theocratic-movement-hiding-in-plain-sight

https://www.thedailybeast.com/a-christian-group-is-building-a-movement-that-could-destabilize-jerusalems-most-explosive-holy-site

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/05/17/council-national-policy-behind-curtain

[Miss Defied]

I didn’t make this shit up, American Evangelicals did.

do you expect them to come out and openly say “we literally think the Second Coming is about to happen and all the people we don’t like are going to get tortured to death (that’s also why we don’t give a fuck about climate change)”. I’m on mobile rn so you’ll have to wait if you want me to drag out news articles and academic papers

So, in other words, you lied. You can't say they made it up when you have literally no proof they ever said it in the first place. That's called lying. Either cite something or admit it at this point.

Dude, Christian Zionism is a thing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism

[Greater Miami Shores]

Gormwood wrote: At least you admit the Clinton impeachment was a coup attempt.
I admit the Clinton Impeachment was a coup attempt for my own reasons, as I have posted many times I disagree with my fellow Republicans, it was wrong, dumb and stupid and the Democrats impeachment attempt on Trump is a political coup d'état attempt.

[Fartsniffage]

Gormwood wrote: At least you admit the Clinton impeachment was a coup attempt.
I admit the Clinton Impeachment was a coup attempt for my own reasons, as I have posted many times I disagree with my fellow Republicans, it was wrong, dumb and stupid and the Democrats impeachment attempt on Trump is a political coup d'état attempt.

Was it a coup d'état when Dick Cheney was made President briefly in 2002? Or how about the time it happened again in 2007?

[Greater Miami Shores]

Gormwood wrote: At least you admit the Clinton impeachment was a coup attempt.
I admit the Clinton Impeachment was a coup attempt for my own reasons, as I have posted many times I disagree with my fellow Republicans, it was wrong, dumb and stupid and the Democrats impeachment attempt on Trump is a political coup d'état attempt.

Was it a coup d'état when Dick Cheney was made President briefly in 2002? Or how about the time it happened again in 2007?

I don't understand, if a President is ill the vice President is in charge.

Apparently it wasn't enough I said the impeachment attempt by the Republicans against President Bill Clinton, was wrong, dumb and stupid and a coup d'état attempt, but because I say the impeachment attempt against Trump is a coup d'état attempt against Donnie by the Democrats, their is something wrong with my post lol.

[Fartsniffage]

Was it a coup d'état when Dick Cheney was made President briefly in 2002? Or how about the time it happened again in 2007?

I don't understand, if a President is ill the vice President is in charge.

Apparently it wasn't enough I said the impeachment attempt by the Republicans against President Bill Clinton, was wrong, dumb and stupid and a coup d'état attempt, but because I say the impeachment attempt against Trump is a coup d'état attempt against Donnie by the Democrats, their is something wrong with my post lol.

The problem with your post is that you're just wrong. It wasn't a coup d'état when they tried it with Clinton and it isn't a coup d'état now. The 25th Amendment ensures that.

[San Lumen]

Was it a coup d'état when Dick Cheney was made President briefly in 2002? Or how about the time it happened again in 2007?

I don't understand, if a President is ill the vice President is in charge.

Apparently it wasn't enough I said the impeachment attempt by the Republicans against President Bill Clinton, was wrong, dumb and stupid and a coup d'état attempt, but because I say the impeachment attempt against Trump is a coup d'état attempt against Donnie by the Democrats, their is something wrong with my post lol.

How is it a coup? Even some Republicans have expressed concern over what he did and his tweet that if he was removed it would be a civil war.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I don't understand, if a President is ill the vice President is in charge.

Apparently it wasn't enough I said the impeachment attempt by the Republicans against President Bill Clinton, was wrong, dumb and stupid and a coup d'état attempt, but because I say the impeachment attempt against Trump is a coup d'état attempt against Donnie by the Democrats, their is something wrong with my post lol.

How is it a coup? Even some Republicans have expressed concern over what he did and his tweet that if he was removed it would be a civil war.

I saw Fartsniffage's post above and I have no comment I think. All I am saying is it was wrong, dumb and stupid it to try to impeach Clinton over Monica Lewinsky, so it was kind of a coup d'état. Monica was not a Russian spy, a Chinese spy or a Pro
Cuban government regime spy like Ana Belén Montes a non Cuban during the Presidency of President Clinton
s just his mistress, I don't care if he lied or not under oath about his affair with Monica, it wasn't a big deal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Montes

I believe very strongly the impeachment attempt by the Democrats against Donnie is a political coup d'état, he has not committed an impeachable crime, we can all argue back and forth forever and we will never agree, back to first base.

[San Lumen]

How is it a coup? Even some Republicans have expressed concern over what he did and his tweet that if he was removed it would be a civil war.

I saw Fartsniffage's post above and I have no comment I think. All I am saying is it was wrong, dumb and stupid it to try to impeach Clinton over Monica Lewinsky, so it was kind of a coup d'état. Monica was not a Russian spy, a Chinese spy or a Pro
Cuban government regime spy like Ana Belén Montes a non Cuban during the Presidency of xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, she was just his mistress, I don't care if he lied or not under oath about his affair with Monica, it wasn't a big deal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Montes

I believe very strongly the impeachment attempt by the Democrats against Donnie is a political coup d'état, he has not committed an impeachable crime, we can all argue back and forth forever and we will never agree, back to first base.

How is colluding with another country to investigate a political rival and then covering it up not a crime? What about the republicans who have expressed concern over it and his tweet about a civil war if he is removed? Are they plotting a coup too? Is dissent not allowed?

[Aureumterra]

How is it a coup? Even some Republicans have expressed concern over what he did and his tweet that if he was removed it would be a civil war.

I saw Fartsniffage's post above and I have no comment I think. All I am saying is it was wrong, dumb and stupid it to try to impeach Clinton over Monica Lewinsky, so it was kind of a coup d'état. Monica was not a Russian spy, a Chinese spy or a Pro
Cuban government regime spy like Ana Belén Montes a non Cuban during the Presidency of President Clinton
s just his mistress, I don't care if he lied or not under oath about his affair with Monica, it wasn't a big deal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Montes

I believe very strongly the impeachment attempt by the Democrats against Donnie is a political coup d'état, he has not committed an impeachable crime, we can all argue back and forth forever and we will never agree, back to first base.

Technically a president can be impeached because their shirt looks bad, and as long as the opposition has a house supermajority, they’re impeached

“impeachable offense” is very arbitrary, Bill Clinton’s impeachment was for a pretty stupid reason, Richard Nixon’s was the worst in US history. We still need a whole lot more information, evidence, and a complete thorough investigation, but hypothetically assuming every single thing in orange crush’s report is true, this would be at watergate levels

[Greater Miami Shores]

I saw Fartsniffage's post above and I have no comment I think. All I am saying is it was wrong, dumb and stupid it to try to impeach Clinton over Monica Lewinsky, so it was kind of a coup d'état. Monica was not a Russian spy, a Chinese spy or a Pro
Cuban government regime spy like Ana Belén Montes a non Cuban during the Presidency of xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, she was just his mistress, I don't care if he lied or not under oath about his affair with Monica, it wasn't a big deal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Montes

I believe very strongly the impeachment attempt by the Democrats against Donnie is a political coup d'état, he has not committed an impeachable crime, we can all argue back and forth forever and we will never agree, back to first base.

How is colluding with another country to investigate a political rival and then covering it up not a crime? What about the republicans who have expressed concern over it and his tweet about a civil war if he is removed? Are they plotting a coup too? Is dissent not allowed?

For the millionth time what you all cant understand accept is millions of American citizens can have a different views of your facts.

Their will not be a civil war in America or a right wing military coup d'état by President Trump with all the military generals he appointed to government, I think most have been forced to resign by the Democrats for one reason or another. or at least I hope not, I think he will be impeached by the Democrats making those predictions we have been hearing about in the press for years come true, but he will not convicted by the Senate of Republicans, so no civil war, win or loose the 2020 elections.

If he is removed or looses reelection I don't think their will be a right wing military coup d'état by President Trump, at least I hope not but time will tell.

[San Lumen]

I saw Fartsniffage's post above and I have no comment I think. All I am saying is it was wrong, dumb and stupid it to try to impeach Clinton over Monica Lewinsky, so it was kind of a coup d'état. Monica was not a Russian spy, a Chinese spy or a Pro
Cuban government regime spy like Ana Belén Montes a non Cuban during the Presidency of President Clinton
s just his mistress, I don't care if he lied or not under oath about his affair with Monica, it wasn't a big deal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Montes

I believe very strongly the impeachment attempt by the Democrats against Donnie is a political coup d'état, he has not committed an impeachable crime, we can all argue back and forth forever and we will never agree, back to first base.

Technically a president can be impeached because their shirt looks bad, and as long as the opposition has a house supermajority, they’re impeached

“impeachable offense” is very arbitrary, Bill Clinton’s impeachment was for a pretty stupid reason, Richard Nixon’s was the worst in US history. We still need a whole lot more information, evidence, and a complete thorough investigation, but hypothetically assuming every single thing in orange crush’s report is true, this would be at watergate levels

You only need a simple majority in the house to impeach. A supermajority is needed in the Senate to convict

[San Lumen]

How is colluding with another country to investigate a political rival and then covering it up not a crime? What about the republicans who have expressed concern over it and his tweet about a civil war if he is removed? Are they plotting a coup too? Is dissent not allowed?

For the millionth time what you all cant understand accept is different persons can have a different views of your facts.

Their will not be a civil war in America or a right wing military coup d'état by President Trump with all the military generals he appointed to government, I think most have been forced to resign by the Democrats for one reason or another. or at least I hope not, I think he will be impeached by the Democrats making those predictions we have been hearing about in the press for years come true, but he will not convicted by the Senate of Republicans, so no civil war, win or loose the 2020 elections.

If he is removed or looses reelection I don't think their will be a right wing military coup d'état by President Trump, at least I hope not but time will tell.

facts are facts. They are not open to interpretation

[Greater Miami Shores]

For the millionth time what you all cant understand accept is different persons can have a different views of your facts.

Their will not be a civil war in America or a right wing military coup d'état by President Trump with all the military generals he appointed to government, I think most have been forced to resign by the Democrats for one reason or another. or at least I hope not, I think he will be impeached by the Democrats making those predictions we have been hearing about in the press for years come true, but he will not convicted by the Senate of Republicans, so no civil war, win or loose the 2020 elections.

If he is removed or looses reelection I don't think their will be a right wing military coup d'état by President Trump, at least I hope not but time will tell.

facts are facts. They are not open to interpretation

lol says you, the Democrats and the never Trumpers lol, that is not democratic, millions of American citizens including myself disagree, and it is our democratic right to disagree like it is your democratic right to disagree.

[Telconi]

For the millionth time what you all cant understand accept is different persons can have a different views of your facts.

Their will not be a civil war in America or a right wing military coup d'état by President Trump with all the military generals he appointed to government, I think most have been forced to resign by the Democrats for one reason or another. or at least I hope not, I think he will be impeached by the Democrats making those predictions we have been hearing about in the press for years come true, but he will not convicted by the Senate of Republicans, so no civil war, win or loose the 2020 elections.

If he is removed or looses reelection I don't think their will be a right wing military coup d'état by President Trump, at least I hope not but time will tell.

facts are facts. They are not open to interpretation

It's possible the accusation is factually correct, and also that the Democrats are motivated by partisan desire to see him removed from power.

[San Lumen]

facts are facts. They are not open to interpretation

lol says you, the Democrats and the never Trumpers lol, that is not democratic.

You therefore have an issue with Republicans as well who are expressing concern about his Ukraine call and the civil war tweet?

[Thermodolia]

Anyway back to Trump.

Trump Wanted to Shoot Migrants in Legs

[Greater Miami Shores]

facts are facts. They are not open to interpretation

It's possible the accusation is factually correct, and also that the Democrats are motivated by partisan desire to see him removed from power.

Great Post Telconi and the key word is possible not a fact.

Not you San Lumen, Donnie could be innocent of an impeachable offense, now you can all have your lol attacks, lol attacks are good for our health but not if we over do them.

[Duhon]

Anyway back to Trump.

Trump Wanted to Shoot Migrants in Legs

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Privately, the president had often talked about fortifying a border wall with a water-filled trench, stocked with snakes or alligators, prompting aides to seek a cost estimate. He wanted the wall electrified, with spikes on top that could pierce human flesh. After publicly suggesting that soldiers shoot migrants if they threw rocks, the president backed off when his staff told him that was illegal. But later in a meeting, aides recalled, he suggested that they shoot migrants in the legs to slow them down. That’s not allowed either, they told him.

now you see why i think he's a walking nuclear threat
he'll kill millions on nothing at all