50,000 GM Workers on Strike

[Ifreann]

Yes because IQ tests are bullshit

I see. And what is your proposed alternative means to assess intelligence?

Do we need one?

[Lord Dominator]

I see. And what is your proposed alternative means to assess intelligence?

Do we need one?

I think not

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Do we need one?

I think not

So if person A makes person B out to be an idiot, how do we know whether person A is vindicated by this premise or discredited?

[Kubra]

I think not

So if person A makes person B out to be an idiot, how do we know whether person A is vindicated by this premise or discredited?

by force of argumentation, ideally.

[Bear Stearns]

I see. And what is your proposed alternative means to assess intelligence?

Do we need one?

There'd be no harm in having one.

[Gormwood]

Do we need one?

There'd be no harm in having one.

Other than giving people an excuse to slip in their favorite racial superiority/inferiority fairy tales and call them "scientific facts."

[Andsed]

I think not

So if person A makes person B out to be an idiot, how do we know whether person A is vindicated by this premise or discredited?

Through observing B and coming to a conclusion because trying to objectively measure and rank someones intelligence is a borderline impossible thing to do.

[The Liberated Territories]

This would be ideally rectified by GM hiring more people, as many would love to work at one of their cushy middle class jobs. But since GM is essentially the bitch of the gov, it cant happen.

[Salandriagado]

I think not

So if person A makes person B out to be an idiot, how do we know whether person A is vindicated by this premise or discredited?

We don't. Just as we don't with IQ tests. IQ tests are OK-ish for what they're intended for (diagnosis of intellectual disabilities), but of minimal use for anything else.

[Chestaan]

I think not

So if person A makes person B out to be an idiot, how do we know whether person A is vindicated by this premise or discredited?

Have you ever seen somebody say "You're an idiot, and I have the figures to back my claim up!"

[Ethel mermania]

This would be ideally rectified by GM hiring more people, as many would love to work at one of their cushy middle class jobs. But since GM is essentially the bitch of the gov, it cant happen.

They predict their market is shrinking, why would they commit to hiring more people?

[Thermodolia]

This would be ideally rectified by GM hiring more people, as many would love to work at one of their cushy middle class jobs. But since GM is essentially the bitch of the gov, it cant happen.

The government doesn’t own any stock in GM at all. They sold that back in 2013

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

So if person A makes person B out to be an idiot, how do we know whether person A is vindicated by this premise or discredited?

Have you ever seen somebody say "You're an idiot, and I have the figures to back my claim up!"

No, but I've seen people say "you're the idiot for thinking I'm an idiot." To determine who is right, and therefore who to believe on other matters, we need a more objective measure of who is right.

[Ifreann]

I think not

So if person A makes person B out to be an idiot, how do we know whether person A is vindicated by this premise or discredited?

Do we need to know that?

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This would be ideally rectified by GM hiring more people, as many would love to work at one of their cushy middle class jobs. But since GM is essentially the bitch of the gov, it cant happen.

They predict their market is shrinking, why would they commit to hiring more people?

To own the libs?

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

So if person A makes person B out to be an idiot, how do we know whether person A is vindicated by this premise or discredited?

Do we need to know that?

For the purposes of knowing whose judgment not to trust on other matters? Yes.

[Greed and Death]

I see. And what is your proposed alternative means to assess intelligence?

Do we need one?

They are useful in university admissions as schools (especially elite private schools) and teachers can and often are pressured to inflate grades making GPA and class rank of little value between institutions.

[Kowani]

Do we need one?

They are useful in university admissions as schools (especially elite private schools) and teachers can and often are pressured to inflate grades making GPA and class rank of little value between institutions.

I don’t know what schools you’re applying to, but not even fucking Harvard requires IQ tests.

[Ethel mermania]

Do we need one?

They are useful in university admissions as schools (especially elite private schools) and teachers can and often are pressured to inflate grades making GPA and class rank of little value between institutions.

Tbf a SAT is a better predictor of college success than an IQ test.

[Ifreann]

Do we need to know that?

For the purposes of knowing whose judgment not to trust on other matters? Yes.

I don't see why.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

Do we need to know that?

For the purposes of knowing whose judgment not to trust on other matters? Yes.

Smart people can have stupid ideas.

[Thermodolia]

They are useful in university admissions as schools (especially elite private schools) and teachers can and often are pressured to inflate grades making GPA and class rank of little value between institutions.

Tbf a SAT is a better predictor of college success than an IQ test.

Same with the ASVAB. Both the SAT and the ASVAB are aptitude tests which measure how you are able to learn. If you score highly on them you have a far better chance at finishing college and learning than someone who doesn’t. Neither test however mesures intelligence

[Ifreann]

For the purposes of knowing whose judgment not to trust on other matters? Yes.

Smart people can have stupid ideas.

Indeed. If someone had made several bad decisions, but was shown to have a very high Brain Power Level(or whatever), we wouldn't start listening to them based on that alone. And likewise the reverse, if someone had previously demonstrated good judgement, we'd trust their judgement, even if they had a bad Brain Power Level.

[Duvniask]

I see. And what is your proposed alternative means to assess intelligence?

Do we need one?

As far as I'm aware, measures such as IQ are used in educational contexts for assessment of, for instance, intellectual disability on the one hand and giftedness on the other and the need for special education. It also has a wide range of social correlations that help predict life outcomes, which gives it research value.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

Smart people can have stupid ideas.

Indeed. If someone had made several bad decisions, but was shown to have a very high Brain Power Level(or whatever), we wouldn't start listening to them based on that alone. And likewise the reverse, if someone had previously demonstrated good judgement, we'd trust their judgement, even if they had a bad Brain Power Level.

Bad decisions, like... mistakenly assuming someone has a low "Brian Power" level only to find out they have a high one?

[Kowani]

"a huge crack in capitalism"

lol

if the air traffic controller strike under reagan didn't do anything to seode capitalism then this won't either.

socialists have become almost like christians trying to predict the return of christ

that being said, i support the workers and their right to strike.

Did the failure of Attila prevent Odacer?