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by Dresderstan » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:45 pm
by Telconi » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:49 pm
by Telconi » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:50 pm
by San Lumen » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:50 pm
Pannerstone wrote:Maldegem wrote:With an electoral college you can with 23% of the population. Source: https://www.npr.org/2016/11/02/50011224 ... 8680973937
How is that a fair system?
Becauase a nation is more than its capital and cities
by Pannerstone » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:51 pm
by Telconi » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:53 pm
by Pannerstone » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:53 pm
by Holy Tedalonia » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:56 pm
by Telconi » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:59 pm
Holy Tedalonia wrote:Telconi wrote:
And that's why we need to change them.
Honestly changing them will only make things worse as our country starts to fight for a power struggle. Thats why Professor Lichtman is playing with fire by trying to push so aggressively with change. One wrong move in court and we could end up with something worse then the status quo.
by Hammer Britannia » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:01 pm
by Farnhamia » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:04 pm
Hammer Britannia wrote:Knowing you, this is probably just another sham to get the Dems into power by making the big cities the only parts of America that matter.
Either way, no. Fuck that. Popular Vote would be leagues better than this.
by San Lumen » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:06 pm
by Scherzinger » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:06 pm
Holy Tedalonia wrote:So this is "I want the elections different" 2.0
by San Lumen » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:07 pm
Hammer Britannia wrote:Knowing you, this is probably just another sham to get the Dems into power by making the big cities the only parts of America that matter.
Either way, no. Fuck that. Popular Vote would be leagues better than this.
by Telconi » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:07 pm
San Lumen wrote:Pannerstone wrote:
No, it should be based on geography, urban and rural areas should be able to negotiate with eachother on equal footing
rural areas votes should therefore count more for statewide office and have more representation than their population allows?
To anyone defending this proposal lets bring this down to a level that maybe everyone will see how unfair it would be be.
Lets create a county we shall call it Lumen County. The county seat and by far largest city is Lumen City home to 60 percent of the population. The other incorporated communities in the county dont even come close to it in population.
Lets have an election for county executive Our victorious candidate wins by getting the most votes in Lumen City by a large margin. They win one other community in the county. The rest of the county voted for their opponent. How would it be fair or democratic for the other person to win?
by Hammer Britannia » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:08 pm
San Lumen wrote:Hammer Britannia wrote:Knowing you, this is probably just another sham to get the Dems into power by making the big cities the only parts of America that matter.
Either way, no. Fuck that. Popular Vote would be leagues better than this.
That's not even remotely what I said. It would make rural areas matter more. I think this idea is a terrible one.
by San Lumen » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:08 pm
Telconi wrote:San Lumen wrote:rural areas votes should therefore count more for statewide office and have more representation than their population allows?
To anyone defending this proposal lets bring this down to a level that maybe everyone will see how unfair it would be be.
Lets create a county we shall call it Lumen County. The county seat and by far largest city is Lumen City home to 60 percent of the population. The other incorporated communities in the county dont even come close to it in population.
Lets have an election for county executive Our victorious candidate wins by getting the most votes in Lumen City by a large margin. They win one other community in the county. The rest of the county voted for their opponent. How would it be fair or democratic for the other person to win?
You keep thumping on this whole "Fair or Democratic" idea as if it's a salient point.
by Telconi » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:09 pm
by Hammer Britannia » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:11 pm
by Telconi » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:11 pm
by Dresderstan » Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:11 pm
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