LiberNovusAmericae wrote:The definition of terrorist is not "having the audacity to oppose gun restrictions."
Half the people saying something is terrorist have a very poor understanding of the word and its definition
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by Aureumterra » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:19 pm
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:The definition of terrorist is not "having the audacity to oppose gun restrictions."
by Novus America » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:20 pm
by Telconi » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:20 pm
Medwind wrote:Telconi wrote:
Honestly I'm all for it, people need to wear their shitty beliefs on their sleeves more often.
What do you mean specifically?
Btw off topic but I found this interesting since it talks about how Australia coerced and bullied it's citizens into disarming, although it's a year old:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EunhUFXXBA
by Salus Maior » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:22 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:22 pm
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by LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:23 pm
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Interesting move. I don’t agree with it, as I don’t think the NRA fits the bill for a terrorist organization but interesting move, San Francisco. Smells like... Trolling?
by Novus America » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:24 pm
Mexican Liberation wrote:Novus America wrote:
Well when the political opposition is literally declaring you terrorists via governmental action, maybe it is not so unreasonable a fear...
Of the several right-wing killings orchestrated by people with a not too different ideology this past year or so...protecting my homeland from invaders, premeditated self-defense, no more SJW oppression...how many of these organizations, NRA included, issued a statement regarding they are not aligned with these individuals and their motives? It's not too far-fetched to assume they knew they held at least some influence in these perpetrator's ways of thinking, of course acknowledging it would be suicide, but as cliche as it sounds, silence and inaction is consent.Gagium wrote:It’s a good thing that’s not what they do then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH9EHEuBibY
by Ifreann » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:25 pm
by LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:25 pm
by Ifreann » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:27 pm
by Mexican Liberation » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:28 pm
Novus America wrote:Mexican Liberation wrote:
Of the several right-wing killings orchestrated by people with a not too different ideology this past year or so...protecting my homeland from invaders, premeditated self-defense, no more SJW oppression...how many of these organizations, NRA included, issued a statement regarding they are not aligned with these individuals and their motives? It's not too far-fetched to assume they knew they held at least some influence in these perpetrator's ways of thinking, of course acknowledging it would be suicide, but as cliche as it sounds, silence and inaction is consent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH9EHEuBibY
The NRA is not opposed to immigration. This is just baseless conspiracy theory as well.
Yes there are violent nuts on the right, but no the NRA has not supported them, and actually strongly denounces illegally shootings. Which hurt its cause anyways.
by Novus America » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:28 pm
Ifreann wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Agreed. Terrorism is violence (usually extreme like a bombing) in the pursuit of political goals.
Like when you organise and arm a load of people and send them to attack the government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq
by Grand Proudhonia » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:29 pm
by Gagium » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:29 pm
Ifreann wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Agreed. Terrorism is violence (usually extreme like a bombing) in the pursuit of political goals.
Like when you organise and arm a load of people and send them to attack the government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq
by LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:29 pm
Ifreann wrote:LiberNovusAmericae wrote:Agreed. Terrorism is violence (usually extreme like a bombing) in the pursuit of political goals.
Like when you organise and arm a load of people and send them to attack the government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq
by Grand Proudhonia » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:30 pm
Novus America wrote:Ifreann wrote:Like when you organise and arm a load of people and send them to attack the government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq
The NRA invade Iraq?
Seriously is this pathetic whataboutism they best you got?
by Ifreann » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:31 pm
Novus America wrote:Ifreann wrote:Like when you organise and arm a load of people and send them to attack the government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq
The NRA invade Iraq?
Seriously is this pathetic whataboutism they best you got?
by Novus America » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:32 pm
Mexican Liberation wrote:Novus America wrote:
The NRA is not opposed to immigration. This is just baseless conspiracy theory as well.
Yes there are violent nuts on the right, but no the NRA has not supported them, and actually strongly denounces illegally shootings. Which hurt its cause anyways.
You're in a room with a guy and both of you are raging about how we need to do something about "them". You're just venting, but he shows you pictures of his arsenal at home and says he's going to do it right now. And he does because you continued to egg him on instead of calming him down. And you tell the police you were against it from the start, but still did nothing to convince him you're not really serious, or try to get him the psychiatric help he needed. Wouldn't it be fair for the police to consider you an accessory?
by Galloism » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:33 pm
by Telconi » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:33 pm
Ifreann wrote:Novus America wrote:
The NRA invade Iraq?
No, it was the US government. Though I understand that it can be hard at times to tell where one ends and the other begins.Seriously is this pathetic whataboutism they best you got?
It's not "whataboutism", I'm criticising the definition of terrorism LNA posted. The US government used violence in pursuit of political goals, specifically destroying the WMDs in the possession of the Iraqi government under Saddam Hussein and the overthrow of that government.
Was that terrorism? It meets the given definition.
by LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:33 pm
by Novus America » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:34 pm
Ifreann wrote:Novus America wrote:
The NRA invade Iraq?
No, it was the US government. Though I understand that it can be hard at times to tell where one ends and the other begins.Seriously is this pathetic whataboutism they best you got?
It's not "whataboutism", I'm criticising the definition of terrorism LNA posted. The US government used violence in pursuit of political goals, specifically destroying the WMDs in the possession of the Iraqi government under Saddam Hussein and the overthrow of that government.
Was that terrorism? It meets the given definition.
by LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:36 pm
Ifreann wrote:Novus America wrote:
The NRA invade Iraq?
No, it was the US government. Though I understand that it can be hard at times to tell where one ends and the other begins.Seriously is this pathetic whataboutism they best you got?
It's not "whataboutism", I'm criticising the definition of terrorism LNA posted. The US government used violence in pursuit of political goals, specifically destroying the WMDs in the possession of the Iraqi government under Saddam Hussein and the overthrow of that government.
Was that terrorism? It meets the given definition.
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