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by North German Realm » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:15 am
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by Greater Loegria » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:19 am
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by Philjia » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:21 am
Nemesis the Warlock wrote:I am the Nemesis, I am the Warlock, I am the shape of things to come, the Lord of the Flies, holder of the Sword Sinister, the Death Bringer, I am the one who waits on the edge of your dreams, I am all these things and many more
by Salandriagado » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:21 am
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
We also pretty much have an NHS staffing crisis every winter as it is, and this is not counting the increased staffing pressure on the NHS because they can no longer rely on people from the EU.
Maybe it'll be just what is needed to send it tumbling down? The NHS eats money like it'll some day run out; a very brave and finance-focussed government needs to pull the plug.
by Greater Loegria » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:22 am
by Salandriagado » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:23 am
by Ifreann » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:24 am
So, how much are these firms set to make from Boris Johnson’s ‘do or die’ approach to Brexit?
From the financial data publicly available, Byline Times can reveal that currently £4,563,350,000 (£4.6 billion) of aggregate short positions on a ‘no deal’ Brexit have been taken out by hedge funds that directly or indirectly bankrolled Boris Johnson’s leadership campaign.
Most of these firms also donated to Vote Leave and took out short positions on the EU Referendum result. The ones which didn’t typically didn’t exist at that time but are invariably connected via directorships to companies that did.
Another £3,711,000,000 (£3.7 billion) of these short positions have been taken out by firms that donated to the Vote Leave campaign, but did not donate directly to the Johnson leadership campaign.
Currently, £8,274,350,000 (£8.3 billion) of aggregate short positions has been taken out by hedge funds connected to the Prime Minister and his Vote Leave campaign, run by his advisor Dominic Cummings, on a ‘no deal’ Brexit.
by Philjia » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:24 am
Greater Loegria wrote:Habitual 4 packs-a-day chimney smoking is problematic. Nothing wrong with lighting up after a meal or drinks though or enjoying a cigar though.
Nemesis the Warlock wrote:I am the Nemesis, I am the Warlock, I am the shape of things to come, the Lord of the Flies, holder of the Sword Sinister, the Death Bringer, I am the one who waits on the edge of your dreams, I am all these things and many more
by Greater Loegria » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:27 am
Philjia wrote:Greater Loegria wrote:Habitual 4 packs-a-day chimney smoking is problematic. Nothing wrong with lighting up after a meal or drinks though or enjoying a cigar though.
It will probably shorten your life, and even if you don't inhale you're still at an elevated risk of mouth and throat cancer, but the failed war on drugs has quite effectively demonstrated that there's not much point in trying to ban tobacco.
by Dumb Ideologies » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:33 am
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Dumb Ideologies wrote:
And yet on Brexit you say your views are against your personal interest and you regularly support healthcare and social policies that would constrain the opportunities and likely the life expectancies of the poor. The dead and the dying are not known for possessing a wide range of choices.
Seems more like simple contrarianism than anything coherent.
Brexit is more about freedom. Wanting to get rid of the nhs, and the taxes that come with it, is self-interest.
by True Refuge » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:38 am
Greater Loegria wrote:Philjia wrote:It will probably shorten your life, and even if you don't inhale you're still at an elevated risk of mouth and throat cancer, but the failed war on drugs has quite effectively demonstrated that there's not much point in trying to ban tobacco.
Heh, my drinking and eating habits have probably shaved off a fair few years anyway.
And yes I don’t see how banning cigarettes could ever be effectively enforced.
"One does not need to be surprised then, when 26 years later the outrageous slogan is repeated, which we Marxists burned all bridges with: to “pick up” the banner of the bourgeoisie. - International Communist Party, Dialogue with Stalin.
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:42 am
Ifreann wrote:How 'bout that disaster capitalism?So, how much are these firms set to make from Boris Johnson’s ‘do or die’ approach to Brexit?
From the financial data publicly available, Byline Times can reveal that currently £4,563,350,000 (£4.6 billion) of aggregate short positions on a ‘no deal’ Brexit have been taken out by hedge funds that directly or indirectly bankrolled Boris Johnson’s leadership campaign.
Most of these firms also donated to Vote Leave and took out short positions on the EU Referendum result. The ones which didn’t typically didn’t exist at that time but are invariably connected via directorships to companies that did.
Another £3,711,000,000 (£3.7 billion) of these short positions have been taken out by firms that donated to the Vote Leave campaign, but did not donate directly to the Johnson leadership campaign.
Currently, £8,274,350,000 (£8.3 billion) of aggregate short positions has been taken out by hedge funds connected to the Prime Minister and his Vote Leave campaign, run by his advisor Dominic Cummings, on a ‘no deal’ Brexit.
by Greater Loegria » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:42 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Brexit is more about freedom. Wanting to get rid of the nhs, and the taxes that come with it, is self-interest.
A number of freedoms are also lost or restricted as part of leaving the EU. Fanatical state-shrinking is not in your long-term interest as it's likely to produce a popular backlash against the human misery from destroying social services that people rely on, a backlash that is likely to take far more away from you than what you're currently given up.
Your politics are hollow, impulsive and short-termist. You are taking the first thing that comes to your mind and labelling it "freedom" or "self-interest", neither considering that freedom has a multiplicity of dimensions, and your enlightened self interest is far less black and white.
It's as though you scribbled your entire program on a fag packet many years ago and have only practiced your arguments by repeatedly screaming them at the clouds.
Not a terribly persuasive set of contributions.
by True Refuge » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:43 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Brexit is more about freedom. Wanting to get rid of the nhs, and the taxes that come with it, is self-interest.
A number of freedoms are also lost or restricted as part of leaving the EU. Fanatical state-shrinking is not in your long-term interest as it's likely to produce a popular backlash against the human misery from destroying social services that people rely on, a backlash that is likely to take far more away from you than what you're currently given up.
Your politics are hollow, impulsive and short-termist. You are taking the first thing that comes to your mind and labelling it "freedom" or "self-interest", neither considering that freedom has a multiplicity of dimensions, and your enlightened self interest is far less black and white.
It's as though you scribbled your entire program on a fag packet many years ago and have only practiced your arguments by repeatedly screaming them at the clouds.
Not a terribly persuasive set of contributions.
"One does not need to be surprised then, when 26 years later the outrageous slogan is repeated, which we Marxists burned all bridges with: to “pick up” the banner of the bourgeoisie. - International Communist Party, Dialogue with Stalin.
by Salandriagado » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:49 am
by Salandriagado » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:50 am
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Imagine pretending to be vaguely nationalist, then thinking that paying a bit more tax is a bad tradeoff for protecting the vulnerable and key workers, rubbing your hands at the prospect of damage to infrastructure and key institutions and hoping they'll collapse just because you personally don't need them.
National interest my arse.
National interest? I'm gone if it's too shit.
by Salandriagado » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:51 am
by Salandriagado » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:52 am
Greater Loegria wrote:Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Oh I forgot the precious precious nhs which both manages to cost 134 billion pounds, but be so cash-strapped it can't afford quite a lot of drugs, is the holy cow. It isn't fit for purpose.
The NHS is a noble enterprise just mismanaged and misadministered. You’re right in the sense that money is poured into it and much of it goes to waste when other things are in wanting however.
It just needs a decent chainsawing.
by Salandriagado » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:55 am
by Greater Loegria » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:56 am
Salandriagado wrote:Greater Loegria wrote:The NHS is a noble enterprise just mismanaged and misadministered. You’re right in the sense that money is poured into it and much of it goes to waste when other things are in wanting however.
It just needs a decent chainsawing.
I remind you again that this is 100% the fault of the Tory party.
by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:09 am
by Dumb Ideologies » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:32 am
Greater Loegria wrote:Dumb Ideologies wrote:
A number of freedoms are also lost or restricted as part of leaving the EU. Fanatical state-shrinking is not in your long-term interest as it's likely to produce a popular backlash against the human misery from destroying social services that people rely on, a backlash that is likely to take far more away from you than what you're currently given up.
Your politics are hollow, impulsive and short-termist. You are taking the first thing that comes to your mind and labelling it "freedom" or "self-interest", neither considering that freedom has a multiplicity of dimensions, and your enlightened self interest is far less black and white.
It's as though you scribbled your entire program on a fag packet many years ago and have only practiced your arguments by repeatedly screaming them at the clouds.
Not a terribly persuasive set of contributions.
It’s unfortunate that many brexiteers show a total lack of political and ideological nuance towards Brexit.
by Ifreann » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:34 am
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
It would be so pleasant to fuck these people up by revoking Article 50.
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