Michigan City Council Candidate: Keep Community white

[Neko-koku]

Africans, mestizos, Southeast Asians, Pacific Islanders aka people East Kekistan hates.

You're really gonna lump them all in as one race?

No but they are what the word "PoC" or "minority" should actually cover.

[Rojava Free State]

You're really gonna lump them all in as one race?

No but they are what the word "PoC" or "minority" should actually cover.

No one can even define PoC. It includes everyone who isn't white, which not only includes diverse groups but is hard to define since whiteness is hard to define.

always thought it was funny that Arab people were people of color in america even though many of them look like your average white person and they're counted as non Hispanic whites in the census

[Neko-koku]

No but they are what the word "PoC" or "minority" should actually cover.

No one can even define PoC. It includes everyone who isn't white, which not only includes diverse groups but is hard to define since whiteness is hard to define.

always thought it was funny that Arab people were people of color in america even though many of them look like your average white person and they're counted as non Hispanic whites in the census

Arabs are Caucasoid. They are essentially far southern Europeans. Since people don't consider them white which of course boosts the white average I invented a similar concept...known as NE Asianism. Excluding MENA people without Sub-Saharan African ancestry from Caucasians is as reasonable as I de facto kicking SEAs out of Mongoloids.

[Ostroeuropa]

And that's why China and Japan are doing well. Europe didn't find a way to redraw the boundaries of the countries and screw them up like they did in, I don't know, Iraq

Whites can't control Iraq lol. Do you know even one instance of people, white or not, invading a MENA-majority country and actually managing to settle it permanently with the sole exception of Reconquista?

Israel

[Rojava Free State]

No one can even define PoC. It includes everyone who isn't white, which not only includes diverse groups but is hard to define since whiteness is hard to define.

always thought it was funny that Arab people were people of color in america even though many of them look like your average white person and they're counted as non Hispanic whites in the census

Arabs are Caucasoid. They are essentially far southern Europeans.

Or maybe Europeans are far northern middle easterners *Vsauce music intensifies*

[Rojava Free State]

Whites can't control Iraq lol. Do you know even one instance of people, white or not, invading a MENA-majority country and actually managing to settle it permanently with the sole exception of Reconquista?

Israel

Technically Jews are middle eastern

And under neko's definition every one in the area is white so it's just white on white violence

[Neko-koku]

Arabs are Caucasoid. They are essentially far southern Europeans.

Or maybe Europeans are far northern middle easterners *Vsauce music intensifies*

If there were no Islam then MENA folks would have been lumped together with Europeans by all but Nordicists.

[Neko-koku]

Whites can't control Iraq lol. Do you know even one instance of people, white or not, invading a MENA-majority country and actually managing to settle it permanently with the sole exception of Reconquista?

Israel

Right.

[Neko-koku]

No but they are what the word "PoC" or "minority" should actually cover.

No one can even define PoC. It includes everyone who isn't white, which not only includes diverse groups but is hard to define since whiteness is hard to define.

always thought it was funny that Arab people were people of color in america even though many of them look like your average white person and they're counted as non Hispanic whites in the census

In practice "PoC" is essentially a term for underperforming tribes. I think instead of focusing on muh color we should actually use tribal performance to be the criteria we care about.

[Rojava Free State]

Or maybe Europeans are far northern middle easterners *Vsauce music intensifies*

If there were no Islam then MENA folks would have been lumped together with Europeans by all but Nordicists.

No one really noticed a difference between Arabs and like Italians till 9/11 in america. Casey kasim, the guy who voiced shaggy, was Lebanese and no one really cared. There was a time when Hispanics and Arab Americans were white people here in the US.

And before people hit me with "but dude, what about mestizos," a large amount of Latinos in america ( a majority actually) are majority European in heritage. They're basically caucasians. I mean it's ridiculous we're calling marco rubio and ted Cruz men of color when they don't even look different from your average white guy. That's what I'm saying

[Neko-koku]

If there were no Islam then MENA folks would have been lumped together with Europeans by all but Nordicists.

No one really noticed a difference between Arabs and like Italians till 9/11 in america. Casey kasim, the guy who voiced shaggy, was Lebanese and no one really cared. There was a time when Hispanics and Arab Americans were white people here in the US.

And before people hit me with "but dude, what about mestizos," a large amount of Latinos in america ( a majority actually) are majority European in heritage. They're basically caucasians. I mean it's ridiculous we're calling marco rubio and ted Cruz men of color when they don't even look different from your average white guy. That's what I'm saying

I don't think people will care a lot about European-MENA difference in America 50 years later either. The MENA community is doing well and is fairly integrated here. It's a pretty much minor differences vastly amplified by religious conflicts to absurdly high levels. Just like the hatred between Japanese and Koreans it is artificial and without constant agitation will naturally fade.

[UniversalCommons]

I pay a premium to live in the whitest part of town because it just so happens to also be the safest and with the most upscale amenities. They just put in a Warby Parker!

The premium you pay means higher property taxes, more property taxes means police show up because they are getting paid by you through taxes as well as other government services. Places with rent control and subsidized housing literally do not pay the salary of the police as well and are kept on a kind of containment with limited services. This applies to most neighborhoods which brings in decent property taxes. This is what you learn when you understand how real estate really works. You can literally watch the neighborhood and see the downward spiral when the first wrecked car and empty lot shows up on the street which makes the house near it worth less money, the less money means less money for services and it goes down from there.

[Estanglia]

The funny thing is that pre European Colonial Africa was rather really successful at building strong European like nation states... The most well known case of this is that of The Mali Empire which lasted nearly 400 years and produced massive amounts of wealth... How massive? Musa The First is literally considered the richest king to have ever existed.... The mali empire was basically Africas Rome... European Imperialism is the direct reason that Africa was set back so hard

LOL what? Why can't European Imperialism destroy NE Asia then? Hey we have become much stronger as a consequence of both European ideas & reactions to them..

Because they didn't colonise NE Asia in the same way they colonised Africa (and even SE Asia).

Almost all of Africa was colonised. The best the Europeans got to colonising NE Asia was Hong Kong, Macau and a couple of other areas.

[Rojava Free State]

No one really noticed a difference between Arabs and like Italians till 9/11 in america. Casey kasim, the guy who voiced shaggy, was Lebanese and no one really cared. There was a time when Hispanics and Arab Americans were white people here in the US.

And before people hit me with "but dude, what about mestizos," a large amount of Latinos in america ( a majority actually) are majority European in heritage. They're basically caucasians. I mean it's ridiculous we're calling marco rubio and ted Cruz men of color when they don't even look different from your average white guy. That's what I'm saying

I don't think people will care a lot about European-MENA difference in America 50 years later either. The MENA community is doing well and is fairly integrated here. It's a pretty much minor differences vastly amplified by religious conflicts to absurdly high levels. Just like the hatred between Japanese and Koreans it is artificial and without constant agitation will naturally fade.

Yeah the japanese vs Korean conflict is a weird one. The two ethnicities are so culturally similar to eaxh other and their languages might even be in the same family but there's a lot of bad blood there

[Diopolis]

I pay a premium to live in the whitest part of town because it just so happens to also be the safest and with the most upscale amenities. They just put in a Warby Parker!

The premium you pay means higher property taxes, more property taxes means police show up because they are getting paid by you through taxes as well as other government services. Places with rent control and subsidized housing literally do not pay the salary of the police as well and are kept on a kind of containment with limited services. This applies to most neighborhoods which brings in decent property taxes. This is what you learn when you understand how real estate really works. You can literally watch the neighborhood and see the downward spiral when the first wrecked car and empty lot shows up on the street which makes the house near it worth less money, the less money means less money for services and it goes down from there.

Funny, I live in a working class area with low property values and lots of section 8, but it’s very safe with excellent police response times. And more or less the whole city is like that.

[Neko-koku]

LOL what? Why can't European Imperialism destroy NE Asia then? Hey we have become much stronger as a consequence of both European ideas & reactions to them..

Because they didn't colonise NE Asia in the same way they colonised Africa (and even SE Asia).

Almost all of Africa was colonised. The best the Europeans got to colonising NE Asia was Hong Kong, Macau and a couple of other areas.

They could try. I mean..we were sleeping Siberian Tigers and now we are awake. You can of course bite a sleeping tiger. However it is not worth it because the tiger is likely to wake up. See? You guys are lions and we are tigers. We just have separate areas of influence.

[Neko-koku]

The premium you pay means higher property taxes, more property taxes means police show up because they are getting paid by you through taxes as well as other government services. Places with rent control and subsidized housing literally do not pay the salary of the police as well and are kept on a kind of containment with limited services. This applies to most neighborhoods which brings in decent property taxes. This is what you learn when you understand how real estate really works. You can literally watch the neighborhood and see the downward spiral when the first wrecked car and empty lot shows up on the street which makes the house near it worth less money, the less money means less money for services and it goes down from there.

Funny, I live in a working class area with low property values and lots of section 8, but it’s very safe with excellent police response times. And more or less the whole city is like that.

Because it is white?

[Nakena]

And that's why China and Japan are doing well. Europe didn't find a way to redraw the boundaries of the countries and screw them up like they did in, I don't know, Iraq

Whites can't control Iraq lol. Do you know even one instance of people, white or not, invading a MENA-majority country and actually managing to settle it permanently with the sole exception of Reconquista?

Because Islam is inherently supremacist and thus unassimilable.

[Neko-koku]

Whites can't control Iraq lol. Do you know even one instance of people, white or not, invading a MENA-majority country and actually managing to settle it permanently with the sole exception of Reconquista?

Because Islam is inherently supremacist and thus unassimilable.

Well it is more than that. There is a reason why French Algeria failed.

The modern Middle East is usually like ancient Greece. It is divided as hell. However if you really invade them which is actually easy because their states are weak and they actually unite against you they will be much stronger and more determined than their states.

[Neko-koku]

I don't think people will care a lot about European-MENA difference in America 50 years later either. The MENA community is doing well and is fairly integrated here. It's a pretty much minor differences vastly amplified by religious conflicts to absurdly high levels. Just like the hatred between Japanese and Koreans it is artificial and without constant agitation will naturally fade.

Yeah the japanese vs Korean conflict is a weird one. The two ethnicities are so culturally similar to eaxh other and their languages might even be in the same family but there's a lot of bad blood there

These shits are often caused by social construction (nationalism).

[Anglo-Corpus]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michigan-city-council-candidate-jean-cramer-wants-to-keep-community-as-white-as-possible/

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... /40000625/

Jean Cramer a candidate for Marysville city council in November, a small community about 55 miles north of Detroit said at a candidates public forum she is against diversity and wants to keep the city as white as possible and doesnt want people foreign born settling in the city.

She also said she does not believe in interracial marriage and thinks people should marry within their own race saying she was not “against blacks” but went on to say: “A husband and wife need to be the same race … That’s how it’s been [since] … God created the heaven and the earth. He created Adam and Eve at the same time.” I love how people to try to defend their racism by saying they arent against someone for their race and then double down on their bigotry

Every other candidate for mayor and city council condemned her comments calling them vile and upsetting.

It is truly shocking how many of these bigoted racist people have come out of the woodwork and are running for elected office. Hopefully she loses, this isnt 1880. Someone's race should make no difference in where they are allowed to reside not to mention it would be against the law to deny someone housing or open a business because of their race. On the topic of interracial marriage its shocking to hear someone say something like that today. Love is love who cares what their race is?

What do you think NSG?

Michigander here. This whole situation has become a running jokes among conservatives and liberals alike.

[Loben The 2nd]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michigan-city-council-candidate-jean-cramer-wants-to-keep-community-as-white-as-possible/

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... /40000625/

Jean Cramer a candidate for Marysville city council in November, a small community about 55 miles north of Detroit said at a candidates public forum she is against diversity and wants to keep the city as white as possible and doesnt want people foreign born settling in the city.

She also said she does not believe in interracial marriage and thinks people should marry within their own race saying she was not “against blacks” but went on to say: “A husband and wife need to be the same race … That’s how it’s been [since] … God created the heaven and the earth. He created Adam and Eve at the same time.” I love how people to try to defend their racism by saying they arent against someone for their race and then double down on their bigotry

Every other candidate for mayor and city council condemned her comments calling them vile and upsetting.

It is truly shocking how many of these bigoted racist people have come out of the woodwork and are running for elected office. Hopefully she loses, this isnt 1880. Someone's race should make no difference in where they are allowed to reside not to mention it would be against the law to deny someone housing or open a business because of their race. On the topic of interracial marriage its shocking to hear someone say something like that today. Love is love who cares what their race is?

What do you think NSG?

Michigander here. This whole situation has become a running jokes among conservatives and liberals alike.

she wasnt even going to be taken seriously regardless.

[Diopolis]

Funny, I live in a working class area with low property values and lots of section 8, but it’s very safe with excellent police response times. And more or less the whole city is like that.

Because it is white?

We have a fair number of (non-white)Hispanics here. No blacks that I know of, and the local area shows no telltale signs of their presence except a barber college, but that’s in a major shopping center by the highway.
The section 8’s pretty selective, and we don’t have any single moms, so that’s probably the bigger reason.

[Neko-koku]

Because it is white?

We have a fair number of (non-white)Hispanics here. No blacks that I know of, and the local area shows no telltale signs of their presence except a barber college, but that’s in a major shopping center by the highway.
The section 8’s pretty selective, and we don’t have any single moms, so that’s probably the bigger reason.

OK. Non-black Hispanic crime rate is higher than the white one but it isn't outrageous either. It's like at most 160-200% the white rate so it is still manageable. The absence of blacks explains why this works to some extant.

[Diopolis]

We have a fair number of (non-white)Hispanics here. No blacks that I know of, and the local area shows no telltale signs of their presence except a barber college, but that’s in a major shopping center by the highway.
The section 8’s pretty selective, and we don’t have any single moms, so that’s probably the bigger reason.

OK. Non-black Hispanic crime rate is higher than the white one but it isn't outrageous either. It's like at most 160-200% the white rate so it is still manageable. The absence of blacks explains why this works to some extant.

The absence of single moms and everyone having an income stream is probably a bigger part than that.