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Postby Firrian Islands » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:22 am

Saiwania wrote:
Hatsunia wrote:If only Japanese society had less (perceived and/or actual) conservatism and xenophobia, then it would be capable of attracting IT talent from all over the world.


Are you kidding me? That is what makes Japan so great in my eyes. A White equivalent to Japan is what I can only dream of, because it doesn't exist in real life. Nearly all majority White countries have become too diverse for my liking. Even Eastern Europe isn't in such good shape on that front because of Roma.


Eastern Europe? Do you mean Romania / Bulgaria / another little country around?

Because Poland is very homogenous. Around 98% of its population is pure slavic and white Polish.

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Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:54 am

Japan ethnically homogeneous?

Who the hell cares.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:24 am

Loben The 2nd wrote:Japan ethnically homogeneous?

Who the hell cares.


The usual suspects; nationalists, racists, far right wingers
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Postby Duhon » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:25 am

Juristonia wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Are you kidding me? That is what makes Japan so great in my eyes. A White equivalent to Japan is what I can only dream of, because it doesn't exist in real life. Nearly all majority White countries have become too diverse for my liking. Even Eastern Europe isn't in such good shape on that front because of Roma.

I like how you keep clinging on to this line of reasoning, even though Nerv, pretty extensively, told you exactly why you're wrong.
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Postby Purgatio » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:28 am

Rojava Free State wrote:Saying Japan is "Asia for asians" totally fails to comprehend their ideology. The Japanese don't even want other Asians in their nation in large numbers. The Japanese are ethnocentric about themselves and have no need to share the spotlight with anyone else based on physical resemblance, at least in their minds


Exactly, Japan is an example of the success of ethnic homogeneity, not racial homogeneity, built on a unifying narrative of Japan for the Japanese that brings its people together. Every other country should try and follow their example.
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Postby Arcanda » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:42 am

I'm pretty sure Japan's success derives from their ethnic, "racial" and cultural homogeneity, as it seems to make for a more cohesive society (And the benefits that come with it in a very wide range of areas). It's more or less linked. What baffles me is how many people are attempting to apply universal concepts on Japan, which is an island whose history and culture is far removed from anything we in Europe have or ever had. So yeah, you could instantly turn whatever country in Europe into an ethnically homogeneous place; you'll still need to unify the culture and many other things to get on Japan's level.

At +95% Japanese I'm pretty certain it's the most homogeneous country, both ethnically but especially culturally, in the developed world, as was said on the first page.
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:52 am

Juristonia wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Are you kidding me? That is what makes Japan so great in my eyes. A White equivalent to Japan is what I can only dream of, because it doesn't exist in real life. Nearly all majority White countries have become too diverse for my liking. Even Eastern Europe isn't in such good shape on that front because of Roma.

I like how you keep clinging on to this line of reasoning, even though Nerv, pretty extensively, told you exactly why you're wrong.
It's just a flat earth level of commitment.

Your first mistake was thinking that Sai would care about being wrong.
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Rojava Free State wrote:Saying Japan is "Asia for asians" totally fails to comprehend their ideology. The Japanese don't even want other Asians in their nation in large numbers. The Japanese are ethnocentric about themselves and have no need to share the spotlight with anyone else based on physical resemblance, at least in their minds


Exactly, Japan is an example of the success of ethnic homogeneity, not racial homogeneity, built on a unifying narrative of Japan for the Japanese that brings its people together. Every other country should try and follow their example.

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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:02 am

Purgatio wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:Saying Japan is "Asia for asians" totally fails to comprehend their ideology. The Japanese don't even want other Asians in their nation in large numbers. The Japanese are ethnocentric about themselves and have no need to share the spotlight with anyone else based on physical resemblance, at least in their minds


Exactly, Japan is an example of the success of ethnic homogeneity, not racial homogeneity, built on a unifying narrative of Japan for the Japanese that brings its people together. Every other country should try and follow their example.

Japan is an example of the success of the NE Asian race, not the abstract and according to some people universally applicable principle of ethnostates. A similar idea won't work for Africans for example. If a homogeneous country is economically doing well then it is likely that its dominant group generally simply does well worldwide. Vice versa.

Homogeneity can not solve most real cases of long-term misery, namely the tribes don't do well either at home or abroad. In this scenario homogeneity tends to make things much worse.

For example the least miserable Sub-Saharan African countries are the ones with a substantial amount of non-blacks. Mauritius has French, Chinese and Indians. Cape Verde and Seychelles both have significant non-African mixture. South Africa has a substantial white community and to a less extant an Indian & Pakistani community. Kenya has influential whites and even more influential Indians. Whites, Indians, Lebanese and Chinese are active in Nigeria and Ghana. Any attempt to make a black community more black always results in economic collapse. From Haitian Revolution to Zanzibar Revolution, Congo Crisis, Amin's expulsion of Indians and Zimbabwen farm invasions the pattern is consistent.

It will actually be a very good idea for Zanzibar or one island in Comoros, Cape Verde or Sao Tome and Principe to become areas with no immigration control at all. Living standards will definitely significantly improve.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:49 am

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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:58 am

Neko-koku wrote:Japan is an example of the success of the NE Asian race, not the abstract and according to some people universally applicable principle of ethnostates. A similar idea won't work for Africans for example. If a homogeneous country is economically doing well then it is likely that its dominant group generally simply does well worldwide. Vice versa.

Homogeneity can not solve most real cases of long-term misery, namely the tribes don't do well either at home or abroad. In this scenario homogeneity tends to make things much worse.

For example the least miserable Sub-Saharan African countries are the ones with a substantial amount of non-blacks. Mauritius has French, Chinese and Indians. Cape Verde and Seychelles both have significant non-African mixture. South Africa has a substantial white community and to a less extant an Indian & Pakistani community. Kenya has influential whites and even more influential Indians. Whites, Indians, Lebanese and Chinese are active in Nigeria and Ghana. Any attempt to make a black community more black always results in economic collapse. From Haitian Revolution to Zanzibar Revolution, Congo Crisis, Amin's expulsion of Indians and Zimbabwen farm invasions the pattern is consistent.

It will actually be a very good idea for Zanzibar or one island in Comoros, Cape Verde or Sao Tome and Principe to become areas with no immigration control at all. Living standards will definitely significantly improve.

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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:00 am

Neko-koku wrote:Japan is an example of the success of the NE Asian race, not the abstract and according to some people universally applicable principle of ethnostates. A similar idea won't work for Africans for example. If a homogeneous country is economically doing well then it is likely that its dominant group generally simply does well worldwide. Vice versa.

Homogeneity can not solve most real cases of long-term misery, namely the tribes don't do well either at home or abroad. In this scenario homogeneity tends to make things much worse.

For example the least miserable Sub-Saharan African countries are the ones with a substantial amount of non-blacks. Mauritius has French, Chinese and Indians. Cape Verde and Seychelles both have significant non-African mixture. South Africa has a substantial white community and to a less extant an Indian & Pakistani community. Kenya has influential whites and even more influential Indians. Whites, Indians, Lebanese and Chinese are active in Nigeria and Ghana. Any attempt to make a black community more black always results in economic collapse. From Haitian Revolution to Zanzibar Revolution, Congo Crisis, Amin's expulsion of Indians and Zimbabwen farm invasions the pattern is consistent.

It will actually be a very good idea for Zanzibar or one island in Comoros, Cape Verde or Sao Tome and Principe to become areas with no immigration control at all. Living standards will definitely significantly improve.


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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:04 am

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
Neko-koku wrote:Japan is an example of the success of the NE Asian race, not the abstract and according to some people universally applicable principle of ethnostates. A similar idea won't work for Africans for example. If a homogeneous country is economically doing well then it is likely that its dominant group generally simply does well worldwide. Vice versa.

Homogeneity can not solve most real cases of long-term misery, namely the tribes don't do well either at home or abroad. In this scenario homogeneity tends to make things much worse.

For example the least miserable Sub-Saharan African countries are the ones with a substantial amount of non-blacks. Mauritius has French, Chinese and Indians. Cape Verde and Seychelles both have significant non-African mixture. South Africa has a substantial white community and to a less extant an Indian & Pakistani community. Kenya has influential whites and even more influential Indians. Whites, Indians, Lebanese and Chinese are active in Nigeria and Ghana. Any attempt to make a black community more black always results in economic collapse. From Haitian Revolution to Zanzibar Revolution, Congo Crisis, Amin's expulsion of Indians and Zimbabwen farm invasions the pattern is consistent.

It will actually be a very good idea for Zanzibar or one island in Comoros, Cape Verde or Sao Tome and Principe to become areas with no immigration control at all. Living standards will definitely significantly improve.

please just stop, you're not helping yourself.

I was just pointing out the BS on both sides.
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Postby Esheaun Stroakuss » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:05 am

I must have missed that part (autism). Sorry for saying you should cease.
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Postby Neko-koku » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:07 am

Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:I must have missed that part (autism). Sorry for saying you should cease.

I just hate the never-ending lies and idiotic narratives in all major political factions.
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Join the club, bro/sis/thing.
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:10 am

Neko-koku wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:please just stop, you're not helping yourself.

I was just pointing out the BS on both sides.


Neko-koku wrote:
Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:I must have missed that part (autism). Sorry for saying you should cease.

I just hate the never-ending lies and idiotic narratives in all major political factions.


Imagine using the Haitian Revolution as proof "any attempt to make a black community more black always results in economic collapse" and then talking about "pointing out the BS" and how you "hate the never-ending lies and idiotic narratives in all major political factions"

No, it just proves that some people got angry because they lost the war of extermination they started and so punished the people who had freed themselves. And they're still angry today, when they're not desperately trying to pretend their shitty Françafrique policies didn't assist a genocide.
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Postby Maydona » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:12 am

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:It's human nature to side with one's own kind.


Pssst, guess what, there's no such thing as a single human nature.
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Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:Join the club, bro/sis/thing.

Thanks meow!
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Postby Loben The 2nd » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:23 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Loben The 2nd wrote:Japan ethnically homogeneous?

Who the hell cares.


The usual suspects; nationalists, racists, far right wingers


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Postby A Cornstar » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:27 am

Maydona wrote:
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:It's human nature to side with one's own kind.


Pssst, guess what, there's no such thing as a single human nature.

Oh there is; but it's mostly disgusting and inconsiderate.
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Postby USS Monitor » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:28 am

Racial homogeneity isn't the reason for anyone's success or failure. It's just an irrelevant bit of trivia, like which side of the road people drive on.

Homogeneous societies can be successful, or they can be shit. Diverse societies, same thing -- some work, some don't. Stop trying to make everything about race.
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:28 am

A Cornstar wrote:
Maydona wrote:
Pssst, guess what, there's no such thing as a single human nature.

Oh there is; but it's mostly disgusting and inconsiderate.

Nah, that’s just a meme. Humans have the capacity to be either good or bad. There’s no one way we lean.

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Postby A Cornstar » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:42 am

Alvecia wrote:
A Cornstar wrote:Oh there is; but it's mostly disgusting and inconsiderate.

Nah, that’s just a meme. Humans have the capacity to be either good or bad. There’s no one way we lean.

Try working in retail. Some people are naturally better but they're outliers; the rest need constant reinforcement to be even half-way decent.
The nationalist position asserts that common commitment to a founding myth does much to facilitate this (high trust society). Among the nationalists that are also weebs, the depiction of Japanese society in anime is taken as inspiration of what could be, or even outright proof(lol).
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:48 am

Japan isn't really homogeneous, Japan just says it's homogeneous.
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:49 am

A Cornstar wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Nah, that’s just a meme. Humans have the capacity to be either good or bad. There’s no one way we lean.

Try working in retail. Some people are naturally better but they're outliers; the rest need constant reinforcement to be even half-way decent.
The nationalist position asserts that common commitment to a founding myth does much to facilitate this (high trust society). Among the nationalists that are also weebs, the depiction of Japanese society in anime is taken as inspiration of what could be, or even outright proof(lol).

That’s just cherry picking. “Humans are inherently bad” is just something people tell themselves to make them feel better about not doing, or not being able to do, anything about it.

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