Jeffrey Epstein dead by """""suicide"""""

[Scomagia]

He was 66. It's not unreasonable to assume he may have lost quite a bit of bone density in his senescence as nearly everyone does to some degree. While women tend to get osteoporosis and related degenerative bone conditions more often, it can and does happen to some men so that is a factor to consider. Being unfamiliar with his medical history, I'm going to wait before I start calling a neck break impossible.

Osteoporosis and all.

I’m of the mind that this could have really been a suicide, but boy was it awfully convenient.

Well, let us also remember that he was injured around the neck previously. Perhaps a break was easier because of that.

[Scomagia]

Maybe someone asked him to do a "Frank Pentangeli".

Betrayer? Or am I missing something? I watched that movie so long ago I hardly remember it.

Frank violates Omerta by talking to the feds. A trial ensues. Through some "persuasion" he is convinced to denounce his previous testimony and cuts his wrists in a bathtub.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Betrayer? Or am I missing something? I watched that movie so long ago I hardly remember it.

Frank violates Omerta by talking to the feds. A trial ensues. Through some "persuasion" he is convinced to denounce his previous testimony and cuts his wrists in a bathtub.

Ah, like the “assisted” argument I’ve heard some people posit. Frankly, would we ever really know the truth of it his death definitely?

Osteoporosis and all.

I’m of the mind that this could have really been a suicide, but boy was it awfully convenient.

Well, let us also remember that he was injured around the neck previously. Perhaps a break was easier because of that.

That I didn’t know. About his neck injury.

[Gormwood]

Frank violates Omerta by talking to the feds. A trial ensues. Through some "persuasion" he is convinced to denounce his previous testimony and cuts his wrists in a bathtub.

Ah, like the “assisted” argument I’ve heard some people posit. Frankly, would we ever really know the truth of it his death definitely?

Well, let us also remember that he was injured around the neck previously. Perhaps a break was easier because of that.

That I didn’t know. About his neck injury.

The suicide attempt before last.

[Nova Cyberia]

Epstein's got some weird taste in paintings.

[Cannot think of a name]

Epstein's got some weird taste in paintings.

I’m not clicking a link labeled that. You could get six affidavits that it was okay and every mod on this and three other forums saying it’s above board and I still wouldn’t click that link.

[Nakena]

Epstein's got some weird taste in paintings.

I’m not clicking a link labeled that. You could get six affidavits that it was okay and every mod on this and three other forums saying it’s above board and I still wouldn’t click that link.

Its a shitty google link leading to a NYPOST article with little content. My posts have much more content.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

What plays in my head while reading this thread.

I keep thinking Lolita Express sounds like the title of an Andrew Lloyd-Webber musical.

[Nakena]

What plays in my head while reading this thread.

I keep thinking Lolita Express sounds like the title of an Andrew Lloyd-Webber musical.

Maybe they turn it all into a Musical someday. Or an Hollywood movie. Who knows. Depends though on how dramatic an eventual outcome will be. I mean they could even film on location. Epsteins Island seems quite deserted with most buildings in renovation as of recently, according to aerial reconaissance.

[Gravlen]

Prisons often have bunk beds.

Not if you're in a single person cell, which to my understanding Epstein was.

That does not appear to be an accurate understanding.

The source also mentioned that Epstein’s cellmate had been transferred out of their shared unit, which is another violation of the jail’s procedures. At the MCC, it’s reportedly standard practice for inmates on suicide watch to be assigned a cellmate, a person to provide company for someone with suicidal tendencies and to alert guards for any emergencies that may arise, as Tartaglione once did.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/jeffrey-epstein-cellmate-nicholas-tartaglione-transferred-out/

Multiple sources told CBS News that Epstein's cellmate at the Metropolitan Correctional Center posted bail last Friday, leaving Epstein alone in his cell the day before he died.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-corrections-officers-may-have-falsified-reports-saying-they-checked-on-the-financier-2019-08-13/

[WayNeacTia]

Not if you're in a single person cell, which to my understanding Epstein was.

That does not appear to be an accurate understanding.

The source also mentioned that Epstein’s cellmate had been transferred out of their shared unit, which is another violation of the jail’s procedures. At the MCC, it’s reportedly standard practice for inmates on suicide watch to be assigned a cellmate, a person to provide company for someone with suicidal tendencies and to alert guards for any emergencies that may arise, as Tartaglione once did.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/jeffrey-epstein-cellmate-nicholas-tartaglione-transferred-out/

Multiple sources told CBS News that Epstein's cellmate at the Metropolitan Correctional Center posted bail last Friday, leaving Epstein alone in his cell the day before he died.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-corrections-officers-may-have-falsified-reports-saying-they-checked-on-the-financier-2019-08-13/

Seems more and more like a government hit every day doesn't it? Makes you wonder what kind of dirt he had on who.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Not if you're in a single person cell, which to my understanding Epstein was.

That does not appear to be an accurate understanding.

The source also mentioned that Epstein’s cellmate had been transferred out of their shared unit, which is another violation of the jail’s procedures. At the MCC, it’s reportedly standard practice for inmates on suicide watch to be assigned a cellmate, a person to provide company for someone with suicidal tendencies and to alert guards for any emergencies that may arise, as Tartaglione once did.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/jeffrey-epstein-cellmate-nicholas-tartaglione-transferred-out/

Multiple sources told CBS News that Epstein's cellmate at the Metropolitan Correctional Center posted bail last Friday, leaving Epstein alone in his cell the day before he died.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-corrections-officers-may-have-falsified-reports-saying-they-checked-on-the-financier-2019-08-13/

Huh, interesting. Awfully convenient he got transferred.

[Gravlen]

He was ostensibly sufficiently wealthy for us to say with a high level of confidence:

The butler did it.

A child butler!

Ah, the patter of little feet around the house. There's nothing like having a midget for a butler.

- W. C. Fields.

[Gravlen]

That does not appear to be an accurate understanding.

The source also mentioned that Epstein’s cellmate had been transferred out of their shared unit, which is another violation of the jail’s procedures. At the MCC, it’s reportedly standard practice for inmates on suicide watch to be assigned a cellmate, a person to provide company for someone with suicidal tendencies and to alert guards for any emergencies that may arise, as Tartaglione once did.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/jeffrey-epstein-cellmate-nicholas-tartaglione-transferred-out/

Multiple sources told CBS News that Epstein's cellmate at the Metropolitan Correctional Center posted bail last Friday, leaving Epstein alone in his cell the day before he died.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-corrections-officers-may-have-falsified-reports-saying-they-checked-on-the-financier-2019-08-13/

Seems more and more like a government hit every day doesn't it? Makes you wonder what kind of dirt he had on who.

Eeeh, does it though? I mean, we're mostly seeing how broken and dysfunctional the prison system actually is. A lot of people are saying the only reason why people are paying attention now is because it was a rich and powerful man who died.

Here's an article from Reason titled "Jeffrey Epstein Is Dead Because His Jailers Neglected Him. He's Not the Only One", wherein the author attempts to show that the "serious irregularities" that the Justice Department suddenly uncovered are actually everyday occurrences within the Bureau of Prisons.

"Clusterfuck doesn't begin to describe the current state of the BOP, and it dates far beyond the Trump administration," David Safavian, deputy director of the American Conservative Union Foundation's criminal justice reform center, told The Marshall Project this week. "Anyone who thinks BOP is a high performing organization has never been inside a federal prison."

Here's 32 stories about death in prisons, giving more context concerning the utter shitshow which are the US prison system.

So, taking a step back, I'll also ask: When is the best time to kill yourself? Is it perhaps when your cellmate has posted bail and is no longer around? I would think so. So the fact that he was released on bail, in my view, does not strengthen or weaken the theory that Epstein was murdered at the present time.

[Nakena]

That does not appear to be an accurate understanding.

The source also mentioned that Epstein’s cellmate had been transferred out of their shared unit, which is another violation of the jail’s procedures. At the MCC, it’s reportedly standard practice for inmates on suicide watch to be assigned a cellmate, a person to provide company for someone with suicidal tendencies and to alert guards for any emergencies that may arise, as Tartaglione once did.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/jeffrey-epstein-cellmate-nicholas-tartaglione-transferred-out/

Multiple sources told CBS News that Epstein's cellmate at the Metropolitan Correctional Center posted bail last Friday, leaving Epstein alone in his cell the day before he died.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-corrections-officers-may-have-falsified-reports-saying-they-checked-on-the-financier-2019-08-13/

Huh, interesting. Awfully convenient he got transferred.

A most fitting convenience.

*garotte wires flexing in the shadows*

-snip-

Agreed but...

Point is, given the utmost importance of Epstein, shouldn they have been employed special measures, and is the absence of those not in itself already rather suspicious? Willful negligence?

[Ifreann]

What plays in my head while reading this thread.

I keep thinking Lolita Express sounds like the title of an Andrew Lloyd-Webber musical.

Lolita Express, the abridged version of the Nabokov novel.

[Gravlen]

Huh, interesting. Awfully convenient he got transferred.

A most fitting convenience.

*garotte wires flexing in the shadows*

-snip-

Agreed but...

Point is, given the utmost importance of Epstein, shouldn they have been employed special measures, and is the absence of those not in itself already rather suspicious? Willful negligence?

Was he, though? Of "utmost importance"?

He was rich and well-connected, sure, but that shouldn't lead to him being given special treatment. And while the crimes he's accused of are bad, I have a suspicion you'll find many worse people being kept in the same jail. (Let us remind ourselves that he started his stay at the MCC at the same time as mexican drug lord Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman was staying there.)

[Kowani]

A most fitting convenience.

*garotte wires flexing in the shadows*



Agreed but...

Point is, given the utmost importance of Epstein, shouldn they have been employed special measures, and is the absence of those not in itself already rather suspicious? Willful negligence?

Was he, though? Of "utmost importance"?

He was rich and well-connected, sure, but that shouldn't lead to him being given special treatment. And while the crimes he's accused of are bad, I have a suspicion you'll find many worse people being kept in the same jail. (Let us remind ourselves that he started his stay at the MCC at the same time as mexican drug lord Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman was staying there.)

When you have somebody who the rich and powerful don’t want talking, it’s best to keep them alive.

[Gravlen]

Was he, though? Of "utmost importance"?

He was rich and well-connected, sure, but that shouldn't lead to him being given special treatment. And while the crimes he's accused of are bad, I have a suspicion you'll find many worse people being kept in the same jail. (Let us remind ourselves that he started his stay at the MCC at the same time as mexican drug lord Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman was staying there.)

When you have somebody who the rich and powerful don’t want talking, it’s best to keep them alive.

When you detain someone pending trial, it's best to keep them alive.

[Ifreann]

When you have somebody who the rich and powerful don’t want talking, it’s best to keep them alive.

When you detain someone pending trial, it's best to keep them alive.

You Knordics and your wacky criminal justice nonsense.

[Gravlen]

When you detain someone pending trial, it's best to keep them alive.

You Knordics and your wacky criminal justice nonsense.

It's the way of the Vikings.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

You Knordics and your wacky criminal justice nonsense.

It's the way of the Vikings.

You mean the way of the Psycho Penguin.

[Gravlen]

It's the way of the Vikings.

You mean the way of the Psycho Penguin.

Beware the Chainsaw of Justice and also Filleting Fish.

[The Rich Port]

You mean the way of the Psycho Penguin.

Beware the Chainsaw of Justice and also Filleting Fish.

The penguins shall tremble before the might of Jan Mayen.

[Gormwood]

Autopsy finds Epstein death was suicide by hanging: medical examiner

We now resume our regularly scheduled conspiracy theorizing.