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Sorority-centric vs. fraternity-centric casual sex?

Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:16 pm

So from what I've heard, the issue with fraternities these days is that although many fraternities invite a girl to their fraternity house to have sex with whichever guys there she's interested in, there are some fraternities that misuse this arrangement; and the fact that they outnumber her; to enable boys in that fraternity to sexually assault the same girls.

So why not gender-flip the arrangement? Why isn't it the norm for sororities to just invite a boy to their sorority house instead, so that the ones who are interested in him can take turns having sex with him, and that if he tries to sexually assault one who isn't, they outnumber him enough to prevent him from doing so? Sure, there's still the risk that they sexually assault him instead, but it's a lower one, not just because males have a reputation, among both sexes, for being less picky, and in turn less likely to be unwilling in the first place, but also because their reasons for saying no are typically limited to the risk of child support bills or STDs, which if he's accepting said invitation to the sorority house in the first place, that's obviously not enough to deter him. So what's the hesitation here?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:28 pm

What a weird perception of how any of that works.
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Postby Saiwania » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:38 pm

If I'm to take your OP literally, my interpretation for why one thing happens but another doesn't, is because simply put- most men can handle themselves amongst the ladies. A typical woman isn't going to physically overpower your typical man. And because for biological males, its almost impossible to overcome a refractory period. They can get an erection via involuntary stimulation but chances are, they're not going to ejaculate more than once within the span of one to three hours, depending on their age and how fit they are, how good their body objectively performs. That limits how useful a strapping young stud of a man is to a group of ladies, if they all want action within a short time frame, unless they're content with just foreplay.

Women can orgasm many times but men are one shot and that's it for half the day or longer. If it wasn't this way for the men of our species, the seed wouldn't be strong enough to cause impregnation to occur for the women who can get pregnant via sexual intercourse.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:57 pm

Saiwania wrote:Women can orgasm many times but men are one shot and that's it for half the day or longer.

Some men can btw...
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:07 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Women can orgasm many times but men are one shot and that's it for half the day or longer.

Half a day!? Uh...dude...

So...forgive the Wikipedia, but still better than that as a source if anyone needs some background on the refactory period:
According to some studies, 18-year-old males have a refractory period of about 15 minutes, while those in their 70s take about 20 hours, with the average for all men being about half an hour.[15] Although rarer, some males exhibit no refractory period or a refractory period lasting less than 10 seconds.[16] A scientific study attempting to document natural, fully ejaculatory, multiple orgasms in an adult man was conducted at Rutgers University in 1995. During the study, six fully ejaculatory orgasms were experienced in 36 minutes, with no apparent refractory period.[3][17] Later, P. Haake et al. reported a single male individual producing multiple orgasms without elevated prolactin response.[8]
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:23 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:So...forgive the Wikipedia, but still better than that as a source if anyone needs some background on the refactory period:
Although rarer, some males exhibit no refractory period or a refractory period lasting less than 10 seconds.

When I was younger before I had sex, based on my own experience of the matter I just assumed it was the case for all men, I didn't realise the ability was unusual until I started having sex.
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Postby Bread Herbert » Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:25 pm

I think the whole sorority/fraternity thing is stupid. Those things are really just magnets for the worst elements of campus society and should be abolished.

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Postby Saiwania » Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:37 pm

Bread Herbert wrote:I think the whole sorority/fraternity thing is stupid. Those things are really just magnets for the worst elements of campus society and should be abolished.


I used to think so too, but now I'm not so sure. It isn't stupid strictly speaking, if there is enough class and standards to it.

At its core, its just a club function that's meant for prestige or networking. It might pay off for your career prospects, if you make friends during college and you're daring enough to participate in what other people do in terms of community events and so on. If you have connections, or stand out in good ways amongst peers- you can really benefit and have more of a shot at advancing and etc.

Its said that no ruler anyways, rules alone. You need to spread influence and to be influenced to get the good things in life, but of course it can be done in good or bad ways. If you do everything alone, college will help you less than it otherwise might. Still think it is mostly a rip off though, given how expensive it is and how long it takes.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:38 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
Women can orgasm many times but men are one shot and that's it for half the day or longer.

Half a day!? Uh...dude...

So...forgive the Wikipedia, but still better than that as a source if anyone needs some background on the refactory period:
According to some studies, 18-year-old males have a refractory period of about 15 minutes, while those in their 70s take about 20 hours, with the average for all men being about half an hour.[15] Although rarer, some males exhibit no refractory period or a refractory period lasting less than 10 seconds.[16] A scientific study attempting to document natural, fully ejaculatory, multiple orgasms in an adult man was conducted at Rutgers University in 1995. During the study, six fully ejaculatory orgasms were experienced in 36 minutes, with no apparent refractory period.[3][17] Later, P. Haake et al. reported a single male individual producing multiple orgasms without elevated prolactin response.[8]


Yep, a healthy man, not a senior, at most, has a refractory period of 30 minutes.
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The New California Republic wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:So...forgive the Wikipedia, but still better than that as a source if anyone needs some background on the refactory period:

When I was younger before I had sex, based on my own experience of the matter I just assumed it was the case for all men, I didn't realise the ability was unusual until I started having sex.

Congratulations?
Kragholm Free States wrote:God you yanks are weird.

For what it's worth, the rest of us "Yanks" think that OP is pretty weird.



Haha, Yanks...
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Cannot think of a name wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:When I was younger before I had sex, based on my own experience of the matter I just assumed it was the case for all men, I didn't realise the ability was unusual until I started having sex.

Congratulations?

Just confirming it's a thing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Postby Cydalia » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:01 pm

"why do we need religion in society again"

hmm
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Cydalia wrote:"why do we need religion in society again"

hmm

?
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Postby Thepeopl » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:15 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Half a day!? Uh...dude...

So...forgive the Wikipedia, but still better than that as a source if anyone needs some background on the refactory period:


Yep, a healthy man, not a senior, at most, has a refractory period of 30 minutes.


But that is not a imbibed man. They tend to pass out and be limp after the first ejaculation. Girls can pass out while imbibed, but some men do not mind a not participating partner.

And why invite a stud, when women can just play with each other? Men tend to be distracted when there are more girls around, no girl likes it when she is having sex that her partner is looking at an other set of breasts.

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:17 pm

Thepeopl wrote:Girls can pass out while imbibed, but some men do not mind a not participating partner.

That's called rape.
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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:19 pm

Saiwania wrote:If I'm to take your OP literally, my interpretation for why one thing happens but another doesn't, is because simply put- most men can handle themselves amongst the ladies. A typical woman isn't going to physically overpower your typical man. And because for biological males, its almost impossible to overcome a refractory period. They can get an erection via involuntary stimulation but chances are, they're not going to ejaculate more than once within the span of one to three hours, depending on their age and how fit they are, how good their body objectively performs. That limits how useful a strapping young stud of a man is to a group of ladies, if they all want action within a short time frame, unless they're content with just foreplay.

Women can orgasm many times but men are one shot and that's it for half the day or longer. If it wasn't this way for the men of our species, the seed wouldn't be strong enough to cause impregnation to occur for the women who can get pregnant via sexual intercourse.

He doesn't need to ejaculate in them, though, just to stay hard long enough for them to each get an orgasm.


Cydalia wrote:"why do we need religion in society again"

hmm

You mean like where that Bible character offered his daughters to a bunch of rapists? Oh wait.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:22 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:just to stay hard long enough for them to each get an orgasm.

The former is not a necessity for the latter.
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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:26 pm

Thepeopl wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Yep, a healthy man, not a senior, at most, has a refractory period of 30 minutes.


But that is not a imbibed man. They tend to pass out and be limp after the first ejaculation. Girls can pass out while imbibed, but some men do not mind a not participating partner.

And why invite a stud, when women can just play with each other? Men tend to be distracted when there are more girls around, no girl likes it when she is having sex that her partner is looking at an other set of breasts.

Are you suggesting that jealously is more likely to impede arousal in a girl than in a guy, or that on an emotional level, they get more jealous during this sort of thing than guys in the first place?

Because I've yet to have heard of the former, and the latter flies in the face of the rhetoric I hear around sex all the time.
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How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.

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Postby Thepeopl » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:27 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Thepeopl wrote:Girls can pass out while imbibed, but some men do not mind a not participating partner.

That's called rape.


Yes.
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:So from what I've heard, the issue with fraternities these days is that although many fraternities invite a girl to their fraternity house to have sex with whichever guys there she's interested in, there are some fraternities that misuse this arrangement; and the fact that they outnumber her; to enable boys in that fraternity to sexually assault the same girls.


I am not a fan of this behavior. STD's and possible pregnancies aside, just the peer pressure is normalizing "sex for status" and the girls are not respected for having slept with that many boys. The Boys can brag and preen.

Youth and alcehol can be a very toxic combination

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Postby Neko-koku » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:09 pm

Cydalia wrote:"why do we need religion in society again"

hmm

Your reasoning is weird..unless you are like Jordan Peterson and are a secular dude who uses religion as a social technology.
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Postby Springfeal » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:12 pm

Sororities and fraternities should just be banned. On paper, they are supposed to be good organizations but in practice they are just toxic environments whose membership primarily consists of bullies, alcoholics, drug addicts, rapists, and people with just generally trashy personalities.

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:12 pm

Springfeal wrote:Sororities and fraternities should just be banned. On paper, they are supposed to be good organizations but in practice they are just toxic environments whose membership primarily consists of bullies, alcoholics, drug addicts, rapists, and people with just generally trashy personalities.

We don't have them here in the UK, it's great.
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