Scifi TV Discussion Thread

[Ameriganastan]

More like Brent Spiner got old and fat like the rest of us

Old, yes. But I don't think I've ever seen him fat.

[Tarsonis]

More like Brent Spiner got old and fat like the rest of us

Old, yes. But I don't think I've ever seen him fat.

Well he’s not obese by any sense of it, but he definitely was heavier in ID4R. The filling out of the face just comes with age. If you want a perfect example go watch beetlejuice and then look up Alec Baldwin now.

[Wallenburg]

Old, yes. But I don't think I've ever seen him fat.

Well he’s not obese by any sense of it, but he definitely was heavier in ID4R. The filling out of the face just comes with age. If you want a perfect example go watch beetlejuice and then look up Alec Baldwin now.

Our boi Stewart didn't get chubby.

[Tarsonis]

Well he’s not obese by any sense of it, but he definitely was heavier in ID4R. The filling out of the face just comes with age. If you want a perfect example go watch beetlejuice and then look up Alec Baldwin now.

Our boi Stewart didn't get chubby.

He also didn’t age. The dude baths in the blood of the innocent

[Pacomia]

Commenting here while watching Next Generation. Haven’t seen much Star Trek, currently watching Brothers for the first time. It’s a wild ride.

[Ameriganastan]

Commenting here while watching Next Generation. Haven’t seen much Star Trek, currently watching Brothers for the first time. It’s a wild ride.

Filming that episode must have been a bitch. It's one thing playing your evil twin, but then also playing your elderly creator and having them all interact convincingly.

[Bralia]

Get wrecked, other shows, Voyager reigns supreme. I was just casually scrolling down the monstrous Memory Alpha page for Caretaker when I found this.

[Ism]

Get wrecked, other shows, Voyager reigns supreme. I was just casually scrolling down the monstrous Memory Alpha page for Caretaker when I found this.

When they say pilot, or do they mean a shuttle/runabout pilot or helmsman?

[Bralia]

Get wrecked, other shows, Voyager reigns supreme. I was just casually scrolling down the monstrous Memory Alpha page for Caretaker when I found this.

When they say pilot, or do they mean a shuttle/runabout pilot or helmsman?

First episode pilot.

[Ism]

When they say pilot, or do they mean a shuttle/runabout pilot or helmsman?

First episode pilot.

Ah. Well they’re just wrong then.

[Bralia]

First episode pilot.

Ah. Well they’re just wrong then.

The majority HAS SPOKEN. Nobody panics when people agree with each other, even if the thing is horrifying. If tomorrow I told you all that I'd like to slurp Seven of Nine all night long . . . or dunk Neelix into a boiling vat of his own cooking, nobody panics. Because it's all something we ALL want to do. But when I show you, that the just one inkling that Voyager is a superior show . . . WELL THEN EVERYONE JUST LOSES THEIR MINDS.

[Ameriganastan]

Yeah, I don't really put much stake in that poll. Cause all the pilot episodes sucked. Even DS9's.

[New haven america]

Oh yeah, Voyager totally had the best pilot.

Then it flushed most of that potential down the drain.

[Bralia]

Oh god, I've transitioned into watching Voyager again. It's crazy how the show makes me feel, it's incredible how different it really is from TNG. TNG is a good, likable show with many good episodes mixed with lesser episodes aplenty. TNG defines Star Trek. Voyager, on the other hand, receives an omnipresent unconditional love that cannot be controlled because it's the best Trek. I completely lack an ability to modulate the amount of gushing I do for Voyager.

[Tarsonis]

Oh god, I've transitioned into watching Voyager again. It's crazy how the show makes me feel, it's incredible how different it really is from TNG. TNG is a good, likable show with many good episodes mixed with lesser episodes aplenty. TNG defines Star Trek. Voyager, on the other hand, receives an omnipresent unconditional love that cannot be controlled because it's the best Trek. I completely lack an ability to modulate the amount of gushing I do for Voyager.

Meh I find voyager to be a lot like an ekg. Mostly meh, And some Great spikes followed by some horrific lows.

[Ameriganastan]

Voyager, on the other hand, receives an omnipresent unconditional love that cannot be controlled because it's the best Trek.

Take it away, Bender.

[Tarsonis]

Voyager, on the other hand, receives an omnipresent unconditional love that cannot be controlled because it's the best Trek.

Take it away, Bender.

It’s not that bad.

[Ameriganastan]

Take it away, Bender.

It’s not that bad.

Says you. The bad way outweighs the good on that show.

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On the subject of the actual best Trek, I'm hoping there's some DS9 references in Picard. Even a throwaway line about Sisko being back would satisfy me.

[Bralia]

Initially, the filming was affected by the fact that the Voyager set contained three "Roberts" (i.e., Robert Beltran, Robert Picardo, and Robert Duncan McNeill) as well as Ethan "John" Phillips. "So there were a lot of 'hey yous' floating around the set for a while," Winrich Kolbe recalled. (Star Trek: Communicator issue 101, p. 58)

Would like to point out that this is an issue easily solved based on the personalities and age of the people involved: Beltran is clearly a Robert, Picardo is a Bob and RDM is a Rob.

[Bralia]

You know what, I'm going to ask the same damn thing here, bloody OP can go to Sto'vo'kor for how absolutely useless and absent they are. I refuse to let them hold me back from polling the Star Trek audience:

What is your absolute favorite episode/scene in a Star Trek work?

[Tarsonis]

You know what, I'm going to ask the same damn thing here, bloody OP can go to Sto'vo'kor for how absolutely useless and absent they are. I refuse to let them hold me back from polling the Star Trek audience:

What is your absolute favorite episode/scene in a Star Trek work?

Gre'Thor*.

[Vassenor]

You know what, I'm going to ask the same damn thing here, bloody OP can go to Sto'vo'kor for how absolutely useless and absent they are. I refuse to let them hold me back from polling the Star Trek audience:

What is your absolute favorite episode/scene in a Star Trek work?

Pretty sure you mean Grethor.

[New haven america]

Maybe they're wishing CR a happy time in the afterlife?

[Ism]

You know what, I'm going to ask the same damn thing here, bloody OP can go to Sto'vo'kor for how absolutely useless and absent they are. I refuse to let them hold me back from polling the Star Trek audience:

What is your absolute favorite episode/scene in a Star Trek work?

Hmm, I think I’d have to go with this exchange from Way of the Warrior for my favorite scene:

Gowron: Think about what you are doing. If you turn your back on me now... for as long as I live, you will not be welcome anywhere in the Klingon Empire. Your family will be removed from the High Council, your lands seized, and your House stripped of its titles! You will have nothing!
Worf: ... except my honor.

As for favorite episode, now that’s tough. I think I’d have to go with Chain of Command, if two parters are allowed. Part 2 if they’re not. “There are, four, lights!” is easily right behind the above as my favorite scene, especially in light of the episodes closing lines. The Riker/Jericho relationship was interesting as well, with neither being entirely wrong nor entirely right.

[Grenartia]

I wouldn't say that.

More like Brent Spiner got old and fat like the rest of us

Actually, its probably the mouth being too small. I saw an edit in the STSP FB group where someone gave him a bigger mouth, and he looked like TNG and movie-era Data.

First episode pilot.

Ah. Well they’re just wrong then.

All the pilots are pretty cringe, in hindsight. Except for Emissary, but even then, its nowhere as good as the rest of DS9, except for other season one episodes.

Oh god, I've transitioned into watching Voyager again. It's crazy how the show makes me feel, it's incredible how different it really is from TNG. TNG is a good, likable show with many good episodes mixed with lesser episodes aplenty. TNG defines Star Trek. Voyager, on the other hand, receives an omnipresent unconditional love that cannot be controlled because it's the best Trek. I completely lack an ability to modulate the amount of gushing I do for Voyager.

Having grown up with Voyager, and only relatively recently watching DS9, I think they're equally excellent representations of Trek at its finest.

Initially, the filming was affected by the fact that the Voyager set contained three "Roberts" (i.e., Robert Beltran, Robert Picardo, and Robert Duncan McNeill) as well as Ethan "John" Phillips. "So there were a lot of 'hey yous' floating around the set for a while," Winrich Kolbe recalled. (Star Trek: Communicator issue 101, p. 58)

Would like to point out that this is an issue easily solved based on the personalities and age of the people involved: Beltran is clearly a Robert, Picardo is a Bob and RDM is a Rob.

Actually, the hilarious thing is that from the convention videos I've seen, that's actually how the other cast members talk about them. Except RDM is Robbie, instead of just Rob.