I've already explained that I hardly know how Twitter works. It wasn't specified which tweets were deleted. Is all the evidence we have that screenshot of the tweet?
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by Saciu » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:57 am
by Vassenor » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:00 am
by Saciu » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:07 am
by Saciu » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:09 am
Vassenor wrote:Saciu wrote:I've already explained that I hardly know how Twitter works. It wasn't specified which tweets were deleted. Is all the evidence we have that screenshot of the tweet?
Are we really going to go through this dance because you don't like the idea that someone who thinks someone is only truly trans if they're cis-passing might be hateful?
by Vassenor » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:10 am
Saciu wrote:Vassenor wrote:
Are we really going to go through this dance because you don't like the idea that someone who thinks someone is only truly trans if they're cis-passing might be hateful?
You've misunderstood. She, along with most other transmeds, doesn't believe what you think they believe. You don't understand transmedicalism, so I don't think there's much point discussing further at this point.
by Saciu » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:15 am
Vassenor wrote:Saciu wrote:You've misunderstood. She, along with most other transmeds, doesn't believe what you think they believe. You don't understand transmedicalism, so I don't think there's much point discussing further at this point.
So let's see her explaining what her views actually are then.
by Vassenor » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:17 am
Saciu wrote:Vassenor wrote:
So let's see her explaining what her views actually are then.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDmCBK ... qgsL4-3C8Q Just look. Look and you'll see what she thinks really quite quickly.
by The Xenopolis Confederation » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:21 am
Vassenor wrote:Saciu wrote:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDmCBK ... qgsL4-3C8Q Just look. Look and you'll see what she thinks really quite quickly.
Or you could actually explain them rather than blind linkdumping.
by Vassenor » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:23 am
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Vassenor wrote:
Or you could actually explain them rather than blind linkdumping.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o_yuAuzl6Q&t=2307s
She somewhat explains her positions in this video, though it is long.
by Saciu » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:24 am
Vassenor wrote:Saciu wrote:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDmCBK ... qgsL4-3C8Q Just look. Look and you'll see what she thinks really quite quickly.
Or you could actually explain them rather than blind linkdumping.
by Saciu » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:31 am
Vassenor wrote:The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o_yuAuzl6Q&t=2307s
She somewhat explains her positions in this video, though it is long.
So your response to a request for someone to actually explain a thing in writing rather than just blind linkdumping is to blind linkdump.
by Vassenor » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:40 am
by Auzkhia » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:49 am
Saciu wrote:Also, in this thread, please remember to take this advice: be nice, be respectful.
by The Xenopolis Confederation » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:13 am
Auzkhia wrote:Saciu wrote:Also, in this thread, please remember to take this advice: be nice, be respectful.
Bold words for someone who doubts nonbinary people. You ever heard of the phrase "trans rights aren't a debate"? This is one case, my validity isn't up for debate, accept me for who I am, and then let's talk.
I think we're done here, unless we want to challenge ourselves to a banging our heads against brick walls.
by Hediacrana » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:22 am
Grenartia wrote:I very much regret this thread got filled with bullshit while I was asleep and at work.
And its a bullshit narrative, just like the "transgender bathroom rapist".Yes, some of the more hardcore transmedicalists refer to some NB people as trenders. I think some people who say they're trans aren't, most of whom are people pretending to be trans but presenting entirely as their birth sex and being completely comfortable that way. What transtrender actually means is, quite simply, one who pretends to be transgender because they see it as trendy.
by Dumb Ideologies » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:22 am
Auzkhia wrote:Saciu wrote:Also, in this thread, please remember to take this advice: be nice, be respectful.
Bold words for someone who doubts nonbinary people. You ever heard of the phrase "trans rights aren't a debate"? This is one case, my validity isn't up for debate, accept me for who I am, and then let's talk.
I think we're done here, unless we want to challenge ourselves to a banging our heads against brick walls.
by Auzkhia » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:42 am
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Auzkhia wrote:Bold words for someone who doubts nonbinary people. You ever heard of the phrase "trans rights aren't a debate"? This is one case, my validity isn't up for debate, accept me for who I am, and then let's talk.
I think we're done here, unless we want to challenge ourselves to a banging our heads against brick walls.
Assuming Saciu even doubts nb people, you can still be unsure about nb people and be polite and respectful.
Saciu wrote:Necroghastia wrote:Or they would experience gender euphoria, or remain experiencing nothing at all.
The plural of anecdote is not data. And that sounds like a you problem, tbh. I'm trans and proud of it. Yeah, dysphoria sucks, living in a place where it would be vastly easier to be a cishet person sucks, but... nothing I can do about that right now, so why let it get me down that I'm a trans lesbian in the first place?
From everything I've seen, "transtrenders" is mostly just a derogatory way to refer to NB people.
If you have gender euphoria as one gender, you'll have gender dysphoria as the other. Only NB people, whose existence I doubt, would be fine as both genders - if they do exist, they are only a very small part of the population.
by Proctopeo » Wed Jul 17, 2019 7:56 am
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Blaire White isn't a garbage human being.
Vassenor wrote:Saciu wrote:Also, in this thread, please remember to take this advice: be nice, be respectful.
Says the person being the least respectful of anyone here.
And on the Blaire White Thing: Apparently we're supposed to pretend that this didn't happen.
by Hediacrana » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:25 am
Proctopeo wrote:As I said in my post where I talked a bit about her, she's no saint, but her counterparts on the other side of the aisle prove that she could be far worse than she is and still be popular.
As for Saciu, eh, she's being more respectful than certain regulars.
by Cekoviu » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:43 am
Saciu wrote:It's funny that one group says "oh we're so scientific" but then has people saying that there are millions of genders.
by Proctopeo » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:57 am
Hediacrana wrote:Proctopeo wrote:As I said in my post where I talked a bit about her, she's no saint, but her counterparts on the other side of the aisle prove that she could be far worse than she is and still be popular.
"This one is bad"
"Your side is worse!"As for Saciu, eh, she's being more respectful than certain regulars.
"This one is bad"
"Your side is worse!"
You sure like the tu quoque argument, don't you?
Cekoviu wrote:Saciu wrote:It's funny that one group says "oh we're so scientific" but then has people saying that there are millions of genders.
Are you still peddling this fucking bullshit? Alright, let's show you how stupid this argument is with an example:
It's funny that physicists claim to be scientists but then say there aren't a finite number of points on the electromagnetic BINARY. Everybody knows there are two electromagnetic categories a ray can have: gamma or radio. Everything else is just pseudoscientific bullshit, and any light ray that physicists claim to be another wavelength is just a confused gamma ray.
by Cekoviu » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:01 am
Cekoviu wrote:Are you still peddling this fucking bullshit? Alright, let's show you how stupid this argument is with an example:
It's funny that physicists claim to be scientists but then say there aren't a finite number of points on the electromagnetic BINARY. Everybody knows there are two electromagnetic categories a ray can have: gamma or radio. Everything else is just pseudoscientific bullshit, and any light ray that physicists claim to be another wavelength is just a confused gamma ray.
Gender is like light, outside of a certain band, it's invisible to the naked eye and anything not very long will kill you with enough exposure.
My gender is 425 hertz, in the ultra-low frequency band of radio genders. I can penetrate the earth and act as an early warning sign for earthquakes uwu~
by Hediacrana » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:02 am
by Proctopeo » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:04 am
Gender is like light, outside of a certain band, it's invisible to the naked eye and anything not very long will kill you with enough exposure.
My gender is 425 hertz, in the ultra-low frequency band of radio genders. I can penetrate the earth and act as an early warning sign for earthquakes uwu~
You could make a career out of intentionally missing the point. You should consider applying to Fox News.
by Cekoviu » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:08 am
Proctopeo wrote:Cekoviu wrote:Just pointing out a fallacy is not a fallacy fallacy. It's only a fallacy fallacy if it's applied improperly, especially to something that isn't a fallacy.
No, it's a fallacy fallacy if you point out a fallacy and try and act like it alone means the conclusion is wrong. Which seems to have been what Hedia was trying to pull.
You could make a career out of intentionally missing the point. You should consider applying to Fox News.
angrily low hums in radio
Also, your comparison (and point) was really out there, so I felt the need to meme it up.
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