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by Thanatttynia » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:08 pm
by Jolthig » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:09 pm
Thanatttynia wrote:Both 'communism is behind radical Islamism' or the much more popular 'capitalism/the US is behind radical Islamism' are reductive. Radical Islamism has always existed; geopolitical concerns during the Cold War kicked off the strain of it we're currently suffering through.
by Aureumterra » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:10 pm
by Thanatttynia » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:16 pm
Jolthig wrote:Thanatttynia wrote:Both 'communism is behind radical Islamism' or the much more popular 'capitalism/the US is behind radical Islamism' are reductive. Radical Islamism has always existed; geopolitical concerns during the Cold War kicked off the strain of it we're currently suffering through.
Yeah, that might be so, but the more modern kind with a combination of Saudi influence and influence from foreign powers, caused the rise of the extremists today.
by Ard al Islam » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:17 pm
by Aureumterra » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:20 pm
Thanatttynia wrote:Jolthig wrote:Yeah, that might be so, but the more modern kind with a combination of Saudi influence and influence from foreign powers, caused the rise of the extremists today.
Agree, though Hafez Al-Assad, Khomeini and associates are probably just as much to blame as the Saudis for the practical effects of radical Islam as it's currently constituted.
by Jolthig » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:21 pm
Thanatttynia wrote:Jolthig wrote:Yeah, that might be so, but the more modern kind with a combination of Saudi influence and influence from foreign powers, caused the rise of the extremists today.
Agree, though Hafez Al-Assad, Khomeini and associates are probably just as much to blame as the Saudis for the practical effects of radical Islam as it's currently constituted.
by Ard al Islam » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:22 pm
by Jolthig » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:25 pm
Ard al Islam wrote:Cappuccina wrote:A human cannot be perfect, whether a prophet or not. Only Allah (swt) is perfect.
Your deen and your iman isn’t complete until you accept every Prophet as free from sin. And indeed, Muhammad, may the peace and blessings of God be upon him, was perfect and free of any sin. And unlike any other Prophet, he is free of human mistakes also. And that is because God made him perfect.
by Al Mumtahanah » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:26 pm
by Ard al Islam » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:27 pm
Jolthig wrote:Ard al Islam wrote:Your deen and your iman isn’t complete until you accept every Prophet as free from sin. And indeed, Muhammad, may the peace and blessings of God be upon him, was perfect and free of any sin. And unlike any other Prophet, he is free of human mistakes also. And that is because God made him perfect.
It is not really for us to decide on what the state of one's iman or deen is. Technically your state applies to every single Muslim in the world because when one sins, they aren't acting in accordance with Islam.
by Aeritai » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:29 pm
by Jolthig » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:29 pm
by Ard al Islam » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:45 pm
by Ard al Islam » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:45 pm
Aeritai wrote:I'll say Imperialism is the cause of why the Middle East is the way it is today. Mostly because the British and French broke their promise after the end of World War 1.
by Thanatttynia » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:03 pm
Aureumterra wrote:Thanatttynia wrote:Agree, though Hafez Al-Assad, Khomeini and associates are probably just as much to blame as the Saudis for the practical effects of radical Islam as it's currently constituted.
Funny enough, it seems that radical Islam is really only in the Middle East and a bit in South Asia. Other Islamic majority areas like Indonesia, North Africa, or Central Asia don’t have that problem to the same extent
Jolthig wrote:Thanatttynia wrote:Agree, though Hafez Al-Assad, Khomeini and associates are probably just as much to blame as the Saudis for the practical effects of radical Islam as it's currently constituted.
True. Much of it does stem from anger against western interference in the region. And those mullahs prey on that anger through rhetoric. Just like how Hitler used rhetoric to get an angry german place against the Treaty of Versailles to join him
Aeritai wrote:I'll say Imperialism is the cause of why the Middle East is the way it is today. Mostly because the British and French broke their promise after the end of World War 1.
by Bread Herbert » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:15 am
by The Realm of Platinum » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:17 am
Bread Herbert wrote:I am pretty sure that is Muhammed and the Quran that are behind radical islam.
by Phoenicaea » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:22 am
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