UK Politics Thread IX: The Masses Against the Classes

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Welcome to dumb EU rule of the week:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48815968

I must say, I'm astonished that a blind person thinks it's a bad idea to make quiet cars noisier.

Like, this is useful for everyone, but isn't it most useful for you?

No, because I cross the road when I'm pretty sure that nothing is coming. It's only useful for people who don't do that.

[The BlAAtschApen]

I think I am...the only blind person on NSG.

NSG? Not sure. I don't keep track where everyone exactly hangs out on a regular basis.

NS, I am 100% sure you're not.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

I must say, I'm astonished that a blind person thinks it's a bad idea to make quiet cars noisier.

Like, this is useful for everyone, but isn't it most useful for you?

No, because I cross the road when I'm pretty sure that nothing is coming. It's only useful for people who don't do that.

But this makes your "pretty sure" more likely to be correct, doesn't it? Is that not a good thing?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I think I am...the only blind person on NSG.

NSG? Not sure. I don't keep track where everyone exactly hangs out on a regular basis.

NS, I am 100% sure you're not.

I know of two others who are active in the rp boards and one who was formely active in gameplay.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

No, because I cross the road when I'm pretty sure that nothing is coming. It's only useful for people who don't do that.

But this makes your "pretty sure" more likely to be correct, doesn't it? Is that not a good thing?

Not really, making these cars less desireable isn't something worth doing in order to protect people with bad road safety awareness.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Welcome to dumb EU rule of the week:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48815968

So what actually makes this an objectively dumb rule, and would you still call it a dumb rule if it came directly from the UK Parliament?

Sorry, missed this:

I've explained why I think it's a dumb rule in other replies, and yes I would.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

But this makes your "pretty sure" more likely to be correct, doesn't it? Is that not a good thing?

Not really, making these cars less desireable isn't something worth doing in order to protect people with bad road safety awareness.

Being able to hear the car doesn't make you more likely to be aware that it's there?

Are you Daredevil or something?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Yeah, fuck blind people.

Honestly, in a world that is used to cars making a lot of noise and using that to determine whether a situation is safe or not, this is quite reasonable. Especially since it's just for reversing or driving below 12 miles per hour. Do you know how many kids run onto the road without looking? Imagine that, but with silent cars. I think this is a reasonable safety measure.

I think I am...the only blind person on NSG.

The reason it's dumb is because the noise that these things will have to make is so incredibly vile I couldn't listen to it for a minute, let alone a longer journey. It'll lead people to avoid buying electric cars in the future, and make the planned phase-out of cars powered by fossil fuels slower. We need to be making electric cars more desireable, not less, if we are ever going to encourage people to buy them.

When you make longer journeys, do you habitually drive below 12 miles per hour?

[Vassenor]

Also because we need more proof that Boris is utterly divorced from reality and needs constant praise to survive:

Boris Johnson quips Stormzy said 'back' not 'fuck' Boris at Glastonbury

[Ifreann]

Welcome to dumb EU rule of the week:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48815968

I must say, I'm astonished that a blind person thinks it's a bad idea to make quiet cars noisier.

Like, this is useful for everyone, but isn't it most useful for you?

This is the guy who think there shouldn't be security screenings for boarding planes. He'd rather get run over or blown out of the sky than have the government make him safe.

[Hurdergaryp]

I must say, I'm astonished that a blind person thinks it's a bad idea to make quiet cars noisier.

Like, this is useful for everyone, but isn't it most useful for you?

This is the guy who think there shouldn't be security screenings for boarding planes. He'd rather get run over or blown out of the sky than have the government make him safe.

At least he's disastrously consistent.

[The Huskar Social Union]

This is the guy who think there shouldn't be security screenings for boarding planes. He'd rather get run over or blown out of the sky than have the government make him safe.

At least he's disastrously consistent.

True, ill give him half a point for that.

[Hurdergaryp]

At least he's disastrously consistent.

True, ill give him half a point for that.

A few more of those and he qualifies for a NationStates General Participation Trophy, the most coveted of prizes.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

I must say, I'm astonished that a blind person thinks it's a bad idea to make quiet cars noisier.

Like, this is useful for everyone, but isn't it most useful for you?

This is the guy who think there shouldn't be security screenings for boarding planes. He'd rather get run over or blown out of the sky than have the government make him safe.

I made a joke about him being Daredevil, but then a couple of minutes later I realised that I'd picked the wrong magical blind character. Vak's opposition to anything that would help him or people like him makes so much more sense if you read it as coming from a place of deep insecurity. "Fuck blind people" might actually have been spot-on. Fuck all the blind people who make people think he might need help by asking for help themselves.

[The BlAAtschApen]

Can we slightly less psycho-analyze the posters around here?

How's the Brexit going? Any new news?

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

Can we slightly less psycho-analyze the posters around here?

You're just saying that because a psychoanalyst hurt you when you were a lamb and you've never confronted the trauma.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Can we slightly less psycho-analyze the posters around here?

How's the Brexit going? Any new news?

How do you think its going lol

Its still an utter trainwreck


Anyway in NI news apparently 50% of people do not identify as Unionist or Nationalist.

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

Can we slightly less psycho-analyze the posters around here?

How's the Brexit going? Any new news?

How do you think its going lol

Its still an utter trainwreck


Anyway in NI news apparently 50% of people do not identify as Unionist or Nationalist.

It'd be interesting to know what those people say on the question of whether NI should be part of the UK or not. And also whether they consider themselves Irish, British, or both. Does no affiliation actually correspond to no opinion in practice? It seems like a difficult thing to be apathetic about.

[The Huskar Social Union]

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How do you think its going lol

Its still an utter trainwreck


Anyway in NI news apparently 50% of people do not identify as Unionist or Nationalist.

It'd be interesting to know what those people say on the question of whether NI should be part of the UK or not. And also whether they consider themselves Irish, British, or both. Does no affiliation actually correspond to no opinion in practice? It seems like a difficult thing to be apathetic about.

It would largely be done to what is more beneficial i would say.


There is also the fact that just because you are a nationalist or a unionist, does not mean that you will always be in favour of unifying with ROI or staying in the UK. A lot of people are "Soft" Unionists or Nationalists, and though they may prefer one or the other, if they feel that the other is more beneficial for NI they would vote in favour of it.

There is a reason more and more people here in NI have been getting irish passports ever since the referendum, and why polls on the matter have narrowed more than they have in the past. Also the utter contempt and disregard the UK government and the tory leadership candidates have held for this place the entire time of the negotiations should, in an ideal world, caused more people to flip towards wanting a UI.

[Ifreann]

It'd be interesting to know what those people say on the question of whether NI should be part of the UK or not. And also whether they consider themselves Irish, British, or both. Does no affiliation actually correspond to no opinion in practice? It seems like a difficult thing to be apathetic about.

It would largely be done to what is more beneficial i would say.


There is also the fact that just because you are a nationalist or a unionist, does not mean that you will always be in favour of unifying with ROI or staying in the UK. A lot of people are "Soft" Unionists or Nationalists, and though they may prefer one or the other, if they feel that the other is more beneficial for NI they would vote in favour of it.

How dare people have nuanced political views.

[The Huskar Social Union]

It would largely be done to what is more beneficial i would say.


There is also the fact that just because you are a nationalist or a unionist, does not mean that you will always be in favour of unifying with ROI or staying in the UK. A lot of people are "Soft" Unionists or Nationalists, and though they may prefer one or the other, if they feel that the other is more beneficial for NI they would vote in favour of it.

How dare people have nuanced political views.

Oh dont worry, here in NI people have a tendency to vote for shit that actively goes against them because tribalism.

Good example are young lgbt unionists voting for the DUP despite the fact the party has a monumental track record of hating their guts.

[Ifreann]

How dare people have nuanced political views.

Oh dont worry, here in NI people have a tendency to vote for shit that actively goes against them because tribalism.

Good example are young lgbt unionists voting for the DUP despite the fact the party has a monumental track record of hating their guts.

Yes, that's the stuff. Good, traditional polarisation. Vote DUP or the Catholics will ban the Queen!

[Old Tyrannia]

How dare people have nuanced political views.

Oh dont worry, here in NI people have a tendency to vote for shit that actively goes against them because tribalism.

Good example are young lgbt unionists voting for the DUP despite the fact the party has a monumental track record of hating their guts.

How dare gay people be actual individuals with beliefs and values other than support for LGBT rights.

[Vassenor]

Oh dont worry, here in NI people have a tendency to vote for shit that actively goes against them because tribalism.

Good example are young lgbt unionists voting for the DUP despite the fact the party has a monumental track record of hating their guts.

How dare gay people be actual individuals with beliefs and values other than support for LGBT rights.

How dare we point out when people are voting against their own best interests to potentially harmful degrees.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Oh dont worry, here in NI people have a tendency to vote for shit that actively goes against them because tribalism.

Good example are young lgbt unionists voting for the DUP despite the fact the party has a monumental track record of hating their guts.

How dare gay people be actual individuals with beliefs and values other than support for LGBT rights.

Yeah wanting to be an individual by voting for a party whose members and politicans have compared them to child rapists, how they shouldnt be allowed to donate blood because of their sexuality, how they need therap to be normal, and how gay people getting marriage is an abomination and offensive and how homosexuals are repulsive and disgusting.

Great decision.

Fanfuckingtastic choice that is totally not self harming and not rooted in a bitter tribalistic nature where people are told to vote for parties based on colour and flags instead of policies and whether or not its actually good for them.