Not to get all feminist on you, but reinforcing masculine gender roles and erasing women from relevance is a "petty detail" that should be focused on, particularly for a nominally progressive person.
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by Cekoviu » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:11 pm
by Digital Planets » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:13 pm
by Illegal Planets » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:13 pm
Cekoviu wrote:Eternal Lotharia wrote:Thought of using woman up too but I thought nobody would focus on a petty detail that has to be misconstrued to be misogynist. Guess I was wrong.
Not to get all feminist on you, but reinforcing masculine gender roles and erasing women from relevance is a "petty detail" that should be focused on, particularly for a nominally progressive person.
by The New California Republic » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:14 pm
Digital Planets wrote:Can we put copies of Ram Ranch in hotel rooms now?
by Digital Planets » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:17 pm
by The South Falls » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:19 pm
by The New California Republic » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:21 pm
by Digital Planets » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:22 pm
by Cekoviu » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:22 pm
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Cekoviu wrote:Not to get all feminist on you, but reinforcing masculine gender roles and erasing women from relevance is a "petty detail" that should be focused on, particularly for a nominally progressive person.
I was using the phrase that sounded best to me at the time, trusting people would know I don't mean it literally and am using a saying that may have gendered language but is used gender-neutrally by many people, and has been for quite a while.
I think it's petty because it tries to insert gender-neutral language into every term, which while I get the intention, believe it does more harm than good via mass irritation to details most people don't care about. I live in a Progressive city, and most people here wouldn't get upset at saying Man Up in that manner, though may view it as aggressive.
I'm not reinforcing gender roles for saying a term as originally designed, I'm just using the term I like without trying to disrespect anybody.
Thank you.
by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:23 pm
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by The South Falls » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:23 pm
The New California Republic wrote:Digital Planets wrote:
That's not enough. We should take every Bible we find, remove he front and back and glue to a book copy of Brokeback Mountain.The South Falls wrote:No. I want freedom. And free is part of freedom. So give me Ram Ranch or give me death!
There is no doubt in my mind that there are hotels in the world that provide such things. If you want to find them, then that is up to you.
by Digital Planets » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:24 pm
by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:24 pm
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by The South Falls » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:25 pm
by Farnhamia » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:25 pm
The South Falls wrote:The New California Republic wrote:
There is no doubt in my mind that there are hotels in the world that provide such things. If you want to find them, then that is up to you.
I'm going to need some crude oil to get there real quick, if you don't mind.Digital Planets wrote:
I have now made a thread called 'Should Ram Ranch be NSG's national anthem?'
Yes. Yes. The answer is yes and I will take my musket and fight for it.
by Digital Planets » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:27 pm
by The South Falls » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:29 pm
Farnhamia wrote:The South Falls wrote:I'm going to need some crude oil to get there real quick, if you don't mind.
Yes. Yes. The answer is yes and I will take my musket and fight for it.
You know that scene in Lawrence of Arabia where Lawrence dozes off on his camel as the march through the desert and Omar Sharif smacks him with his riding crop and tells him, "You were drifting" in that wonderful accent Omar Sharif had?
You were drifting.
by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:31 pm
The South Falls wrote:Farnhamia wrote:You know that scene in Lawrence of Arabia where Lawrence dozes off on his camel as the march through the desert and Omar Sharif smacks him with his riding crop and tells him, "You were drifting" in that wonderful accent Omar Sharif had?
You were drifting.
The implications of which, I do not know.
Slava Ukraini
Also: THERNSY!!
Your story isn't over;֍Help save transgender people's lives֍Help for feral cats
Cat with internet access||Supposedly heartless, & a d*ck.||Is maith an t-earra an tsíocháin.||No TGsRIP: Dyakovo & Ashmoria
by Farnhamia » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:31 pm
The South Falls wrote:Farnhamia wrote:You know that scene in Lawrence of Arabia where Lawrence dozes off on his camel as the march through the desert and Omar Sharif smacks him with his riding crop and tells him, "You were drifting" in that wonderful accent Omar Sharif had?
You were drifting.
The implications of which, I do not know.
by Cekoviu » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:40 pm
Eternal Lotharia wrote:I'm sorry but I know people who consider themselves progressive say that, in fact quite common with people I know. Never once heard that complaint. Used by teachers, staff, etc. and has been used by progressive females(who like progressive politicians) to other progressive females, and to men.
I believe that to focus on that would be sacrificing time for what is truly progressive, the economic policies that make Progressism what it is.
I see this as trivial and harmful to the overall progressive agenda. Identity Politics and excessive Political Correctness have alienated many Americans, and I'm not going to endorse what is destroying our movement.
I have a lot to gain by using both, I'll point out. Autism, Hispanic, Native American Roots...
However, I personally feel this focus does more harm than good.
To show I don't succumb this easily to political pressure I stand by what I said.
by Illegal Planets » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:43 pm
Cekoviu wrote:Eternal Lotharia wrote:I'm sorry but I know people who consider themselves progressive say that, in fact quite common with people I know. Never once heard that complaint. Used by teachers, staff, etc. and has been used by progressive females(who like progressive politicians) to other progressive females, and to men.
That just indicates that toxic gender roles are so heavily ingrained in our society that even people who would ordinarily be opposed to them can't see them for what they are.
This does not help your argument.
by Cekoviu » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:46 pm
Illegal Planets wrote:Cekoviu wrote:That just indicates that toxic gender roles are so heavily ingrained in our society that even people who would ordinarily be opposed to them can't see them for what they are.
This does not help your argument.
Why do you care this much? The only thing you've done is attack his choice of words and not his argument.
by Farnhamia » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:48 pm
by Aclion » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:53 pm
San Lumen wrote:what is the relevance here?
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