by Fascist Rep of Singapore » Wed May 29, 2019 11:20 pm
by Borovan entered the region as he » Wed May 29, 2019 11:23 pm
by Eumaeus » Thu May 30, 2019 7:07 am
Borovan entered the region as he wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=373231
Fascist Rep of Singapore wrote:I want to know what the Predator script is. I know two regions that got removed because of creating chaos using it.
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by Raionitu » Thu May 30, 2019 9:35 am
Predator did basically everything for a trigger, giving options of the next available targets, generating a list of you hits and misses, gave timer to jump, etc. etc. Using it could let a noob trigger in theory. Broke site rules because it made calls (designed to do so) far beyond the permitted limit.Eumaeus wrote:I'm not familiar with the mechanics of how it worked, but Predator was an update tool created by General Halcones
Fun fact: every record made using predator has been broken legally, and while there is nothing quite like it, people have proven you could make a script that has the same functions and is still legal. The difference in accuracy from being legal is negligible. Cheating gives you no real advantage, and puts you at risk to get banned from the site.It allowed for extremely accurate single hit invasions, and gave the regions who used a significant advantage in tag raiding operations.
No temp bans from site, temporary wa ban and not allowed to participate in raids onsite, so no holding officer spots outsite home region. Could still trigger funny enough.People who used it were temporarily banned from the site, those who knew it was illegal the entire time were permanently banned
The region of TBR did get deleted, it had collapsed before this, during a different illegal script problem (which is why the mods deleted entire regions for this one). The other region cleared was Cimmeriaand TBR and DEN (along with all their holdings and puppet regions) were wiped out.
Koth wrote:you guys are cool, like lately ive been watching the overal state of the raider world and been like,"ew", but you guys are very not ew
Reppy wrote:Swearing is just fucking fine on this goddamn fucking forum.
Aguaria Major wrote:The Black Hawks is essentially a regional equivalent of Heath Ledger's Joker: they just want to watch the world burn
Frisbeeteria wrote:Please stop.Please.
Souls wrote:Hi, I'm Souls. Have you embraced our lord and savior , Piling yet?
Souls wrote:Note to self: Watch out for Rai in my bedroom
Altinsane wrote:Me, about every suspiciously helpful newb I meet: "It's probably Rai."
Lord Dominator wrote:Koth is a drunken alternate personality of yours
by RiderSyl » Thu May 30, 2019 10:11 am
by NOrTh pAcIfiC spY » Thu May 30, 2019 10:15 am
Raionitu wrote:Fun fact: every record made using predator has been broken legally, and while there is nothing quite like it, people have proven you could make a script that has the same functions and is still legal. The difference in accuracy from being legal is negligible. Cheating gives you no real advantage, and puts you at risk to get banned from the site.
by Raionitu » Thu May 30, 2019 10:25 am
NOrTh pAcIfiC spY wrote:Raionitu wrote:Fun fact: every record made using predator has been broken legally, and while there is nothing quite like it, people have proven you could make a script that has the same functions and is still legal. The difference in accuracy from being legal is negligible. Cheating gives you no real advantage, and puts you at risk to get banned from the site.
Not just the same functions, Babyface's is far superior both accuracy/functions and legal.
Koth wrote:you guys are cool, like lately ive been watching the overal state of the raider world and been like,"ew", but you guys are very not ew
Reppy wrote:Swearing is just fucking fine on this goddamn fucking forum.
Aguaria Major wrote:The Black Hawks is essentially a regional equivalent of Heath Ledger's Joker: they just want to watch the world burn
Frisbeeteria wrote:Please stop.Please.
Souls wrote:Hi, I'm Souls. Have you embraced our lord and savior , Piling yet?
Souls wrote:Note to self: Watch out for Rai in my bedroom
Altinsane wrote:Me, about every suspiciously helpful newb I meet: "It's probably Rai."
Lord Dominator wrote:Koth is a drunken alternate personality of yours
by Minoa » Thu May 30, 2019 10:46 am
by Queen Yuno » Thu May 30, 2019 10:47 am
by Raionitu » Thu May 30, 2019 11:00 am
Koth wrote:you guys are cool, like lately ive been watching the overal state of the raider world and been like,"ew", but you guys are very not ew
Reppy wrote:Swearing is just fucking fine on this goddamn fucking forum.
Aguaria Major wrote:The Black Hawks is essentially a regional equivalent of Heath Ledger's Joker: they just want to watch the world burn
Frisbeeteria wrote:Please stop.Please.
Souls wrote:Hi, I'm Souls. Have you embraced our lord and savior , Piling yet?
Souls wrote:Note to self: Watch out for Rai in my bedroom
Altinsane wrote:Me, about every suspiciously helpful newb I meet: "It's probably Rai."
Lord Dominator wrote:Koth is a drunken alternate personality of yours
by Eumaeus » Thu May 30, 2019 11:56 am
Raionitu wrote:Predator did basically everything for a trigger, giving options of the next available targets, generating a list of you hits and misses, gave timer to jump, etc. etc. Using it could let a noob trigger in theory. Broke site rules because it made calls (designed to do so) far beyond the permitted limit.
Fun fact: every record made using predator has been broken legally, and while there is nothing quite like it, people have proven you could make a script that has the same functions and is still legal. The difference in accuracy from being legal is negligible. Cheating gives you no real advantage, and puts you at risk to get banned from the site.
The region of TBR did get deleted, it had collapsed before this, during a different illegal script problem (which is why the mods deleted entire regions for this one). The other region cleared was Cimmeria
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by Raionitu » Thu May 30, 2019 1:50 pm
Yea, I always try to let people know that cheating didn't help them in any way they couldn't do normally. That was the whole point of BlackoutEumaeus wrote:Good point, "significant" is hyperbolizing it quite a bit. Now that I think about it, and to build on your point, I seem to remember DEN was actually starting to make the switch over to Elite around the time this happened, which if I remember correctly was about as good as Predator but not as illegal (if I am incorrect on that please feel free to correct me). Edit: I was corrected via telegram; apparently "not as illegal" was in fact a better choice of words than if I had said "more legal". It looks like I need to reread these threads as much as OP does.
I assume this bit is for the OP's benefit rather than mine, but honestly had I completely forgotten that Cimmeria existed. Great, now I'm going to have the taste of purism rants and whining about raider unity on my brain for the rest of the day.
Koth wrote:you guys are cool, like lately ive been watching the overal state of the raider world and been like,"ew", but you guys are very not ew
Reppy wrote:Swearing is just fucking fine on this goddamn fucking forum.
Aguaria Major wrote:The Black Hawks is essentially a regional equivalent of Heath Ledger's Joker: they just want to watch the world burn
Frisbeeteria wrote:Please stop.Please.
Souls wrote:Hi, I'm Souls. Have you embraced our lord and savior , Piling yet?
Souls wrote:Note to self: Watch out for Rai in my bedroom
Altinsane wrote:Me, about every suspiciously helpful newb I meet: "It's probably Rai."
Lord Dominator wrote:Koth is a drunken alternate personality of yours
by Southern Bellz » Thu May 30, 2019 3:08 pm
NOrTh pAcIfiC spY wrote:Raionitu wrote:Fun fact: every record made using predator has been broken legally, and while there is nothing quite like it, people have proven you could make a script that has the same functions and is still legal. The difference in accuracy from being legal is negligible. Cheating gives you no real advantage, and puts you at risk to get banned from the site.
Not just the same functions, Babyface's is far superior both accuracy/functions and legal.
by Luna Amore » Fri May 31, 2019 7:23 am
Minoa wrote:See also: https://nsindex.net/wiki/Predator_script_controversy
The Predator script controversy led to an unprecedented move by the moderator team, to return a large number of regions to their original owners. 2016 was also a tough year for NationStates, with the US Presidential elections causing unprecedented levels of toxicity in NSG, and the uncovering of erotic and obscene roleplay hiding behind the telegram system.
by Minoa » Fri May 31, 2019 10:24 am
Luna Amore wrote:Minoa wrote:See also: https://nsindex.net/wiki/Predator_script_controversy
The Predator script controversy led to an unprecedented move by the moderator team, to return a large number of regions to their original owners. 2016 was also a tough year for NationStates, with the US Presidential elections causing unprecedented levels of toxicity in NSG, and the uncovering of erotic and obscene roleplay hiding behind the telegram system.
If I can make a suggestion to that page, The DEN's deletion was overturned. The region was returned to Wolf with a change in capitalization.
by Of crazed » Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:09 am
Luna Amore wrote:Minoa wrote:See also: https://nsindex.net/wiki/Predator_script_controversy
The Predator script controversy led to an unprecedented move by the moderator team, to return a large number of regions to their original owners. 2016 was also a tough year for NationStates, with the US Presidential elections causing unprecedented levels of toxicity in NSG, and the uncovering of erotic and obscene roleplay hiding behind the telegram system.
If I can make a suggestion to that page, The DEN's deletion was overturned. The region was returned to Wolf with a change in capitalization.
by Raionitu » Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:12 pm
Of crazed wrote:Luna Amore wrote:If I can make a suggestion to that page, The DEN's deletion was overturned. The region was returned to Wolf with a change in capitalization.
So what are the latest rules regarding the name DEN and founding regions? I was a big critic of that ruling mostly due to my decade long involvement with DEN before scripting was a thing and was not aware that policy was reversed.
Koth wrote:you guys are cool, like lately ive been watching the overal state of the raider world and been like,"ew", but you guys are very not ew
Reppy wrote:Swearing is just fucking fine on this goddamn fucking forum.
Aguaria Major wrote:The Black Hawks is essentially a regional equivalent of Heath Ledger's Joker: they just want to watch the world burn
Frisbeeteria wrote:Please stop.Please.
Souls wrote:Hi, I'm Souls. Have you embraced our lord and savior , Piling yet?
Souls wrote:Note to self: Watch out for Rai in my bedroom
Altinsane wrote:Me, about every suspiciously helpful newb I meet: "It's probably Rai."
Lord Dominator wrote:Koth is a drunken alternate personality of yours
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