UniversalCommons wrote:Bortslovakia wrote:
Fair enough. As for the League, I've couched everything in language that at the very least negates that issue. In fact, the only thing that really poses any kind of a threat to traditional roles so far is that chiefs/lords/whatever don't have direct control of their soldiers (which many ignore or subvert anyway). The Mayors outside of Drogheda are basically powerless. So far the only reason the lords of the Leage participate is because they haven't lost much while gaining significant security. As I've said a few times, Ireland is very fragile right now. Pat needs to earn their loyalty and respect before reforming anything. Dublin has relatively agreeable practices since most of the founders weren't very religious or entrenched, being refugees and all. Other villages though have plenty of activities that Pat would call distasteful at best, such as slavery. Those are definitely themes I intend to explore at some point (though human sacrifice isn't really noted in Irish prehistory as being a major feature. Just megalith building)
There is the example of the Wicker Man by the Druids although this is questionable and the people being sacrificed were criminals. It makes for a good story, but probably is not true. The god Taranis is who the wicker effigy is supposedly for. He is part of the Irish pantheon.
The Celts aren't even around in Britain yet, let alone the validity of the Wicker Man stories.
Formerland wrote:Bortslovakia wrote:
Fair enough. As for the League, I've couched everything in language that at the very least negates that issue. In fact, the only thing that really poses any kind of a threat to traditional roles so far is that chiefs/lords/whatever don't have direct control of their soldiers (which many ignore or subvert anyway). The Mayors outside of Drogheda are basically powerless. So far the only reason the lords of the Leage participate is because they haven't lost much while gaining significant security. As I've said a few times, Ireland is very fragile right now. Pat needs to earn their loyalty and respect before reforming anything. Dublin has relatively agreeable practices since most of the founders weren't very religious or entrenched, being refugees and all. Other villages though have plenty of activities that Pat would call distasteful at best, such as slavery. Those are definitely themes I intend to explore at some point (though human sacrifice isn't really noted in Irish prehistory as being a major feature. Just megalith building)
Didn't the first crannog builders practice human sacrifice ( more on the lines of a last resort than say the constant spectacle many imagine), In fact I do believe it is believed now that many human sacrifices were of those who represented the gods like priests and kings who were thought to have failed in their duties, as we see in better documented ancient societies. Not entirely related but certainly pertinent.
What little research I've done indicates that the earliest Bog Body with skin was found in Ireland yes, but that wasn't until around 2000 BCE. I wouldn't be surprised if it started earlier, but a thousand years is a long time and currently nothing suggests human sacrifice of that nature was common before then.