He had his own brand of vaccines (which didn’t work, by the way) that conveniently didn’t cause Autism.
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by Kowani » Tue May 14, 2019 9:23 pm
by Chernoslavia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:24 pm
by Gormwood » Tue May 14, 2019 9:25 pm
by The Black Forrest » Tue May 14, 2019 9:26 pm
by Kowani » Tue May 14, 2019 9:26 pm
by Dooom35796821595 » Tue May 14, 2019 9:27 pm
by Chernoslavia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:28 pm
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by Arayas » Tue May 14, 2019 9:29 pm
by Galloism » Tue May 14, 2019 9:31 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Galloism wrote:I think you missed a word. I don’t understand the last part.
That being said, regarding the first part, giving them ammunition actually does matter. If you don’t understand why, you should pay a little bit more attention to common law history.
Opps left out "are willing'
I'm sorry I just can't understand your view of contagious diseases are ok for "body integrity" and to save RvW.
(e) Require all health services to be consistent with the human rights of women, including the rights to autonomy, privacy, confidentiality, informed consent and choice;
by Gormwood » Tue May 14, 2019 9:31 pm
The Aria wrote:If you get Vacations you gain immunity to the disease right? Then why does it matter if others get vaccinations? As far as your own heath.
by Kowani » Tue May 14, 2019 9:32 pm
by Chernoslavia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:33 pm
by Farnhamia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:34 pm
The Aria wrote:If you get Vacations you gain immunity to the disease right? Then why does it matter if others get vaccinations? As far as your own heath.
by Galloism » Tue May 14, 2019 9:35 pm
Kowani wrote:Galloism wrote:True, but the chances that a given unvaccinated person will cause another person’s death is exceptionally low. Not zero, but exceptionally low (last death was in 2015).
From the perspective of a person who sees a fetus as a person, the risk of another person’s death from abortion is 100%.
This would justify far greater intrusions into bodily autonomy.
You know that whole thing about prohibition of abortions not actually stopping abortion?
“Safe, rare and legal.”
by Gormwood » Tue May 14, 2019 9:35 pm
by Chernoslavia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:35 pm
by Arayas » Tue May 14, 2019 9:35 pm
by Kowani » Tue May 14, 2019 9:35 pm
by Inkopolitia » Tue May 14, 2019 9:36 pm
by The Black Forrest » Tue May 14, 2019 9:38 pm
Galloism wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
Opps left out "are willing'
I'm sorry I just can't understand your view of contagious diseases are ok for "body integrity" and to save RvW.
I'm not sure I'd go with "ok", but rather "better than the alternative". These people are asshats, but that doesn't mean they don't have human rights.
These arguments - that bodily autonomy is less important than saving lives - leads to a lot of really bad conclusions. Chief among them in my mind (largely because of the political realities of the day) is the banning of abortions and all that that entailed (I wouldn't wish forced pregnancy on anyone). But it also involves conscripting, forced medical testing, and all sorts of other violations of bodily autonomy for "the greater good". These arguments WILL be turned around and used on us in the future.
It's important we draw a line in the sand on bodily autonomy. And be willing to pay the price that is the same for every freedom - the blood price.
Even the UN tacitly endorses this position, from their women on health, 1999 recommendation:(e) Require all health services to be consistent with the human rights of women, including the rights to autonomy, privacy, confidentiality, informed consent and choice;
https://tbinternet.ohchr.org/Treaties/C ... 4738_E.pdf
I mean, I get these people are assholes. But anytime you have human rights there's gonna be assholes.
by Kowani » Tue May 14, 2019 9:39 pm
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