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by Evil Dictators Happyland » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:31 pm
Happsborough wrote:-Ocelot- wrote:I stumbled upon this article today: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/ ... s-reveals/
The article explains how members of the alt-right movement have organized into something most of us would call a terrorist movement if the perpetrators were not white and christian. According to the findings, these people, despite calling themselves an "alternative" right-wing group, appear to be nothing more than young neo-fascists who have adapted into 21st century life and have successfully influenced young people, including children.
My question to NSG is this: Is this the birth of a huge international terrorist movement? Will the world have to crackdown on these people eventually? And what can governments do to stop the resurgence of fascism for good?
My opinion is that the alt-right movement was going to become a terrorism organization eventually. From the very beginning, their beliefs were similar to 20th century fascism. In practice, they are fascists who pretend to be nice and concerned about the world, while leading young, frustrated men into committing terrorist acts. Under different circumstances, people would call them terrorists. To be stopped, governments must treat them like they treat radical Islamists and arrest the ones who play a pivotal role into organizing the whole thing.
Some quotes from the article:
You seem to not know what terrorism is. Yes there are some radical alt-right groups but most are just trolls/shitposters or strongly opinionated people who are otherwise normal. Yes there are violent ones but you can't seriously try to tell me that there are no violent/extremist leftists (AntiFa, for one) and you definitely can't tell me there haven't ever been leftist terrorists (French Revolutionaries, basiclaly any communist movement, etc.)
by Page » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:31 pm
Happsborough wrote:-Ocelot- wrote:I stumbled upon this article today: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/ ... s-reveals/
The article explains how members of the alt-right movement have organized into something most of us would call a terrorist movement if the perpetrators were not white and christian. According to the findings, these people, despite calling themselves an "alternative" right-wing group, appear to be nothing more than young neo-fascists who have adapted into 21st century life and have successfully influenced young people, including children.
My question to NSG is this: Is this the birth of a huge international terrorist movement? Will the world have to crackdown on these people eventually? And what can governments do to stop the resurgence of fascism for good?
My opinion is that the alt-right movement was going to become a terrorism organization eventually. From the very beginning, their beliefs were similar to 20th century fascism. In practice, they are fascists who pretend to be nice and concerned about the world, while leading young, frustrated men into committing terrorist acts. Under different circumstances, people would call them terrorists. To be stopped, governments must treat them like they treat radical Islamists and arrest the ones who play a pivotal role into organizing the whole thing.
Some quotes from the article:
You seem to not know what terrorism is. Yes there are some radical alt-right groups but most are just trolls/shitposters or strongly opinionated people who are otherwise normal. Yes there are violent ones but you can't seriously try to tell me that there are no violent/extremist leftists (AntiFa, for one) and you definitely can't tell me there haven't ever been leftist terrorists (French Revolutionaries, basiclaly any communist movement, etc.)
by Happsborough » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:31 pm
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:32 pm
Fedel wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
I don't think there was a point, his post was just confusing.
Very possible, but I think the point was that people who use the term "alt right" don't have a clear label for it and it's generally just used as a shorthand to refer to people who believe ridiculous and/or reprehensible things. I.E. the crazy evil right wingers.
On that subject, it'd be cool if the OP could give us a definition for what THEY believe "alt right" means.
by Holy Tedalonia » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:32 pm
-Ocelot- wrote:My question to NSG is this: Is this the birth of a huge international terrorist movement? Will the world have to crackdown on these people eventually? And what can governments do to stop the resurgence of fascism for good?
My opinion is that the alt-right movement was going to become a terrorism organization eventually. From the very beginning, their beliefs were similar to 20th century fascism. In practice, they are fascists who pretend to be nice and concerned about the world, while leading young, frustrated men into committing terrorist acts. Under different circumstances, people would call them terrorists. To be stopped, governments must treat them like they treat radical Islamists and arrest the ones who play a pivotal role into organizing the whole thing.
by Evil Dictators Happyland » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:32 pm
by The Technocrates » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:33 pm
by Evil Dictators Happyland » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:33 pm
by Skarten » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:33 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Fedel wrote:
Very possible, but I think the point was that people who use the term "alt right" don't have a clear label for it and it's generally just used as a shorthand to refer to people who believe ridiculous and/or reprehensible things. I.E. the crazy evil right wingers.
On that subject, it'd be cool if the OP could give us a definition for what THEY believe "alt right" means.
Fair enough, alt right should have a clearer definition.
My personal definition of it would be:
People who argue for extreme right wing ideologies (ie Nazism, fascism, ect).
by Holy Tedalonia » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:34 pm
Page wrote:Happsborough wrote:
You seem to not know what terrorism is. Yes there are some radical alt-right groups but most are just trolls/shitposters or strongly opinionated people who are otherwise normal. Yes there are violent ones but you can't seriously try to tell me that there are no violent/extremist leftists (AntiFa, for one) and you definitely can't tell me there haven't ever been leftist terrorists (French Revolutionaries, basiclaly any communist movement, etc.)
There have been left-wing terrorists, but in 21st century America left-wing terrorism is nonexistent.
by Page » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:34 pm
by Evil Dictators Happyland » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:34 pm
Skarten wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Fair enough, alt right should have a clearer definition.
My personal definition of it would be:
People who argue for extreme right wing ideologies (ie Nazism, fascism, ect).
What definiton of nazism are we using?
Actual nazis?
Or anyone right of the left?
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:35 pm
Skarten wrote:The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Fair enough, alt right should have a clearer definition.
My personal definition of it would be:
People who argue for extreme right wing ideologies (ie Nazism, fascism, ect).
What definiton of nazism are we using?
Actual nazis?
Or anyone right of the left?
by Gormwood » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:36 pm
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:Skarten wrote:If we're being honest here, as much as i disagree with most of what these people say, the modern left kinda brought this upon themselves in the way they've been acting.
*ding ding ding ding* And we have our first "but the left is just as bad because ANTIFA!" poster. Don't worry, there will be more, and definitely don't ask them to explain why antifa is just as bad, because they won't.
by The Black Party » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:36 pm
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Fair enough, alt right should have a clearer definition.
My personal definition of it would be:
People who argue for extreme right wing ideologies (ie Nazism, fascism, ect).
by Page » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:36 pm
by Evil Dictators Happyland » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:37 pm
Skarten wrote:The Technocrates wrote:In many cases, a lot of them are. Some aren't, but when confronted by society or by the government, they tend to backpedal what they say.
Sounds like a straw man to me alright. From what i know, it seems that it's leftists who are the ones who just talk and break stuff then run away the moment someone tries to pick a fight with them.
by Skarten » Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:38 pm
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