I mean, the militia is newsworthy, it's a leader was arrested, no?
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by The South Falls » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:50 am
by Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:52 am
Ifreann wrote:Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Okay, and....?
I guess news outlets are really scraping the bottom of the barrel for stories now that the Mueller Report is over with.
Haven't you been listening to the President? There's a crisis at the border, apparently. Huge crisis, worst ever.Saiwania wrote:I oppose this arrest and I think I'm heavily in favor of what this militia group is doing. The border patrol doesn't do a good job, because if they did- few to no people would be able to get across. What I'd aspire the US to have, is something akin to Soviet border guards. Actual militarization of the frontier.
You want a nearly 70 year old felon protecting America?
by Elwher » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:54 am
Vassenor wrote:Saiwania wrote:I oppose this arrest and I think I'm heavily in favor of what this militia group is doing. The border patrol doesn't do a good job, because if they did- few to no people would be able to get across. What I'd aspire the US to have, is something akin to Soviet border guards. Actual militarization of the frontier.
You think people should be allowed to falsely claim to be government agents?
Also who is going to pay for all that?
by Kowani » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:55 am
by Telconi » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:55 am
by Blueflarst » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:56 am
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48000774US authorities have arrested an alleged member of a militia that has been stopping migrants trying to cross the US-Mexico border.
Larry Mitchell Hopkins, 69, was detained in New Mexico as a felon in possession of a weapon.
It comes just days after a video emerged of militia members detaining dozens of migrants in the desert.
The group, United Constitutional Patriots, has been condemned by civil rights groups and local officials.United Constitutional Patriots, a small volunteer group, argues it is helping US Border Patrol to deal with a surge in migrants crossing America's southern border. It is one of several militias operating in the region.
As details of this week's latest video emerged, New Mexico governor Michelle Lujan Grisham said on Twitter that "menacing or threatening migrant families and asylum seekers is absolutely unacceptable and must cease".
US Customs and Border Protection have previously said they are opposed to civilians patrolling the border in search of illegal crossers.
So, it appears that there are militias working on the US border, kidnapping people who crossed the border and detaining them until actual law enforcement can arrive.
This is of course a flagrant example of vigilante justice. These people do not have the legal authority to detain people. They lack any kind of oversight, cannot be held accountable via elections or by elected officials, and basically gain their authority just by buying guns. It's a clear violation of US law. Even if you agree that they are doing it for a good cause, which is highly debatable, you cannot claim that what they are doing is right.
In my opinion, the US should crack down hard on these militias, whenever they so flagrantly violate the law. Having armed gangs imposing their own will on people in your country is the sign of a war-torn developing country, not something you'd want to find in one of the most developed countries on earth.
So, what is your opinion, NSG? Are these batmen and women justified in what they do?
by Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:56 am
by Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:57 am
Blueflarst wrote:Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48000774
So, it appears that there are militias working on the US border, kidnapping people who crossed the border and detaining them until actual law enforcement can arrive.
This is of course a flagrant example of vigilante justice. These people do not have the legal authority to detain people. They lack any kind of oversight, cannot be held accountable via elections or by elected officials, and basically gain their authority just by buying guns. It's a clear violation of US law. Even if you agree that they are doing it for a good cause, which is highly debatable, you cannot claim that what they are doing is right.
In my opinion, the US should crack down hard on these militias, whenever they so flagrantly violate the law. Having armed gangs imposing their own will on people in your country is the sign of a war-torn developing country, not something you'd want to find in one of the most developed countries on earth.
So, what is your opinion, NSG? Are these batmen and women justified in what they do?
This type of militia must be encouraged they are a boost to the public order without payment, in Blueflarst cowboys drag illegal inmigrants to the frontier without need of state intervention. I do not see where is the problem on rightful people doing the things where the state can not reach. You are just an scared liberal worried more about his life and the illegal inmigrants than for havin things done
by Kowani » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:58 am
by Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:59 am
by East Germanic Countries » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:01 am
by Ifreann » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:04 am
by The Galactic Liberal Democracy » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:04 am
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Larry Mitchell Hopkins, 69, was detained in New Mexico as a felon in possession of a weapon.
Cossack Khanate wrote:This shall forever be known as World War Sh*t: Newark Aggression. Now if I see one more troop deployed, I will call on the force of all the Hindu gods to reverse time and wipe your race of the face of the planet. Cease.
The Black Party wrote:(TBP kamikaze's into all 99999999999 nukes before they hit our territory because we just have that many pilots ready to die for dah blak regime, we also counter-attack into your nation with our entire population of 45 million because this RP allows it.)
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Galatic Liberal Democracy short-circuits all of NS with FACTS and LOGIC
by The South Falls » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:04 am
East Germanic Countries wrote:They're just doing their civic duty to the USA.
by Paddy O Fernature » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:05 am
Vassenor wrote:You think people should be allowed to falsely claim to be government agents?
The South Falls wrote:I mean, the militia is newsworthy, it's a leader was arrested, no?
by Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:05 am
by Page » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:06 am
by Kowani » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:06 am
The South Falls wrote:As I've said. If you're just asking migrants to stay, and calling border patrol, fine. But if you are forcibly holding them, that is kidnapping.
by Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:07 am
Page wrote:Greater vakolicci haven wrote:America has a 72 year old president. If it's to do with his physical capabilities, if he can still do his bit, why not allow him to do it?
A great point against ageism - being more than 70 years old doesn't stop a delusional idiot from committing felonies while claiming he's making America safer while really just stroking his own ego, and it hasn't stopped that militia guy either.
by Paddy O Fernature » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:08 am
by Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:08 am
by Greater vakolicci haven » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:08 am
by The Two Jerseys » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:09 am
by Paddy O Fernature » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:10 am
by Ifreann » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:10 am
Paddy O Fernature wrote:Ifreann wrote:Haven't you been listening to the President? There's a crisis at the border, apparently. Huge crisis, worst ever.
No.
However, I did hear when Kevin K. McAleenan, the commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Patrol Protection said that an "unprecedented crisis" was in the works all along the entirety of the southern border.
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