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Which Candidate do you support?

Bernie
102
33%
Beto
3
1%
Biden
15
5%
Buttigieg
27
9%
Harris
4
1%
Warren
17
6%
Yang
24
8%
Trump
88
29%
Weld
3
1%
Other
25
8%
 
Total votes : 308
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Outer Sparta
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:25 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Autvia wrote:Beto O'Rourke is insane thinking he can change the climate, Warren is the absolute opposite of Trump, and Buttigieg is not my choice because i am a Christian.

So.. Trump 2020!


Who cares if he's gay.

Buttigieg is also a Christian so there's that.
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Dresderstan
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:26 pm

Random question how do you pronounce Buttigieg?

I always felt it was pronounced boot-e-gig.
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Farnhamia
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:26 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Telconi wrote:
People who don't like gays.


He already admitted to being Christian.

We forgive him.
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Telconi
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Postby Telconi » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:26 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Who cares if he's gay.

Buttigieg is also a Christian so there's that.


So is Donnie :rofl:
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Northern Davincia
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:26 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Who cares if he's gay.

Buttigieg is also a Christian so there's that.

He should stick to celibacy, if true.
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:27 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Buttigieg is also a Christian so there's that.

He should stick to celibacy, if true.

pardon me?
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Outer Sparta
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Postby Outer Sparta » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:27 pm

Telconi wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Buttigieg is also a Christian so there's that.


So is Donnie :rofl:

Does anything matter anymore?
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Telconi
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Postby Telconi » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:27 pm

Dresderstan wrote:Random question how do you pronounce Buttigieg?

I always felt it was pronounced boot-e-gig.


It's something similar, I've heard ila few similar ways, but the first part seems to sound like "boot" not "butt"
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-Limited Government
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-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
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-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
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The South Falls
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:28 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:He should stick to celibacy, if true.

pardon me?

christian argument #9511 that gay people can still be gay if they don't perform the act itself.

Though, it's stupid anyway, because Leviticus 20:13 is probably mistranslated.
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Duhon
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Founded: Nov 21, 2018
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Postby Duhon » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:28 pm

Dresderstan wrote:Random question how do you pronounce Buttigieg?

I always felt it was pronounced boot-e-gig.


It's closer to Boot-tej-edge.
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Impaled Nazarene
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:28 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Who cares if he's gay.


People who don't like gays.

Too bad the world didn't nuke itself into oblivion in 1983.
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Telconi
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Postby Telconi » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:28 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:He should stick to celibacy, if true.

pardon me?


A homosexual Christian should remain celibate.
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PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry
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Dresderstan
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Founded: Jan 18, 2016
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:29 pm

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Telconi wrote:
People who don't like gays.

Too bad the world didn't nuke itself into oblivion in 1983.

Or 1962.
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Northern Davincia
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Founded: Jun 10, 2014
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Postby Northern Davincia » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:29 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:He should stick to celibacy, if true.

pardon me?

Christianity doesn't give much ground to homosexuals that aren't celibate.
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The Black Forrest
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:29 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:pardon me?


A homosexual Christian should remain celibate.


Indeed. All Christians refrain from sex unless they are going to have a kid.
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:30 pm

The South Falls wrote:
San Lumen wrote:pardon me?

christian argument #9511 that gay people can still be gay if they don't perform the act itself.

Though, it's stupid anyway, because Leviticus 20:13 is probably mistranslated.


Jesus also said to love everyone
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:30 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:pardon me?


A homosexual Christian should remain celibate.

says who?
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Telconi
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Founded: Oct 08, 2016
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Postby Telconi » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:30 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Telconi wrote:
A homosexual Christian should remain celibate.


Indeed. All Christians refrain from sex unless they are going to have a kid. Married


FTFY
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-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry
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The South Falls
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Postby The South Falls » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:30 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The South Falls wrote:christian argument #9511 that gay people can still be gay if they don't perform the act itself.

Though, it's stupid anyway, because Leviticus 20:13 is probably mistranslated.


Jesus also said to love everyone

And here we go again. It's still true though.
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Telconi
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Postby Telconi » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
A homosexual Christian should remain celibate.

says who?


Christianity, with few exceptions.
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PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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Impaled Nazarene
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:31 pm

Dresderstan wrote:Random question how do you pronounce Buttigieg?

I always felt it was pronounced boot-e-gig.

It's even weirder than you think.
Boot-ih-gidge or Boot-ih-gage are the most 2 common. I'm tired af right now so i can't remember exactly but after living for several years in South Bend I've been corrected enough times.
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Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:31 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:says who?


Christianity, with few exceptions.

where?
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Duhon
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Founded: Nov 21, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Duhon » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:31 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:pardon me?

Christianity doesn't give much ground to homosexuals that aren't celibate.


A roundabout way to insist that LGBTs are sinnera who should be punished for time and eternity, but then my ex-coreligionists are passive-aggressive like that.
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Telconi
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Postby Telconi » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:32 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Christianity, with few exceptions.

where?


The Bible.
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-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

"The Constitution is NOT an instrument for the government to restrain the people,it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government-- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." ~ Patrick Henry
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Impaled Nazarene
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:33 pm

Consider: Your religion sucks and you should be nice to the LGBT+ community.
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Kiaculta wrote:Oh, Kar, you silly sack of shit.
Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Bickering ist krieg.
Infected Mushroom wrote:isn't this a bit extreme?
Finland SSR wrote:"Many dictatorships are oligarchies.
Many democracies are oligarchies.
Therefore, many dictatorships are democracies."

-said no one ever. I made these words up.
Genivaria wrote:"WHY!? Why do this!? Thousands of planets and trillions of innocent lives gone! For what!?"
"It seemed like fun at the time."
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