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by Frasian Viceroyalty » Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:17 pm
by El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:48 pm
Frasian Viceroyalty wrote:Communism is not inevitable. It is incompatible with the West, and never will be a viable option. It has failed a multitude of times and will continue to do so. The only system that has truly survived and shown its worth is that of the capitalist democracies, which continue to survive and work till this day.
Frasian Viceroyalty wrote:As for a communist United States, I'd hope that never happens as I would probably shoot myself.
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
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by Lesser Bavaria » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:43 pm
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Frasian Viceroyalty wrote:Communism is not inevitable. It is incompatible with the West, and never will be a viable option. It has failed a multitude of times and will continue to do so. The only system that has truly survived and shown its worth is that of the capitalist democracies, which continue to survive and work till this day.
Communism was never tried (attempted to be reached, yes, but never tried). Also capitalist countries have their own problems.Frasian Viceroyalty wrote:As for a communist United States, I'd hope that never happens as I would probably shoot myself.
Idk why people say this. Also a communist United States wouldn't exist. Communism advocates for statelessness, and the United States is a state. "Communist >insert country here<" is an oxymoron.
by First American Empire » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:22 pm
Frasian Viceroyalty wrote:As for a communist United States, I'd hope that never happens as I would probably shoot myself.
by American Soviet Combine » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:56 pm
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by Umpus » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:03 pm
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by Doing it Rightland » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:04 pm
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Communism was never tried (attempted to be reached, yes, but never tried).
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Also capitalist countries have their own problems.
Frasian Viceroyalty wrote:As for a communist United States, I'd hope that never happens as I would probably shoot myself.El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Idk why people say this. Also a communist United States wouldn't exist. Communism advocates for statelessness, and the United States is a state. "Communist >insert country here<" is an oxymoron.
by Kubra » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:10 pm
and what is the "dictatorship of the proletariat"?Doing it Rightland wrote:El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Communism was never tried (attempted to be reached, yes, but never tried).
If I had a nickel for every time I'd heard this, I'd be able to fund your little socialist experiments indefinitely (But I wouldn't).El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Also capitalist countries have their own problems.
Everyone has their own problems. Chronic goods shortages, rampant famine, oppressive media control, intense military dictatorship, resource mismanagement, and flight of wealth, are just a few that communist countries have had. While some capitalist countries may also have these issues periodically, only in communist nations have a majority of these become endemic.Frasian Viceroyalty wrote:As for a communist United States, I'd hope that never happens as I would probably shoot myself.El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Idk why people say this. Also a communist United States wouldn't exist. Communism advocates for statelessness, and the United States is a state. "Communist >insert country here<" is an oxymoron.
People say that because you Trotskyist world-revolutionaries forget that in order to get the ball rolling, you have to start somewhere. Statelessness comes after the dictatorship of the proletariat, and nobody's gotten past that. If you think you can, good luck. You'll need it.
by Lefty Canuckia » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:16 pm
by El-Amin Caliphate » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:20 pm
Doing it Rightland wrote:you Trotskyist world-revolutionaries
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)
by Kubra » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:30 pm
all you need to know is nuclear war brings communism from space
by First American Empire » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:06 am
by Doing it Rightland » Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:48 am
Kubra wrote:and what is the "dictatorship of the proletariat"?
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Hol up lol, I barely even know what Trotskyism is. How'm I gonna stand by an ideology I barely even know the meaning of?
by Kubra » Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:56 pm
uhhhh that's not how I recall it in the manifesto. Are you sure you've read it?Doing it Rightland wrote:[it refers to the people forming a centralized dictatorship which then redistributes the wealth.
by Doing it Rightland » Wed Apr 17, 2019 8:27 pm
by Cosmicium » Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:42 am
Frasian Viceroyalty wrote:Communism is not inevitable. It is incompatible with the West, and never will be a viable option. It has failed a multitude of times and will continue to do so. The only system that has truly survived and shown its worth is that of the capitalist democracies, which continue to survive and work till this day.
As for a communist United States, I'd hope that never happens as I would probably shoot myself.
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by Esheaun Stroakuss » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:10 am
by Petrolheadia » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:35 pm
Cosmicium wrote:Frasian Viceroyalty wrote:Communism is not inevitable. It is incompatible with the West, and never will be a viable option. It has failed a multitude of times and will continue to do so. The only system that has truly survived and shown its worth is that of the capitalist democracies, which continue to survive and work till this day.
As for a communist United States, I'd hope that never happens as I would probably shoot myself.
The capitalist countries of today only keep their high economic power for they practice neo-colonialism extensively. Laborers from third-world countries are exploited, forced to work long hours and underpaid to hell so you can have a $500 TV. Once the third-world countries become rich, it will stop being worthwhile for rich countries to exploit their labor and the whole consumerist system will collapse. This is why they go to great lengths to prevent them from becoming any richer (IMF and World Bank anyone?) to perpetuate the hyper-consumerist economy that fills the pockets of executives and keeps the people complacent.
Also, what democracy does it matter to the common folk when the agenda of all the parties on the ballot is to further the exploitation of the working class, if lucky maybe with a welfare state?
by Belinka » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:02 am
by Rothbrook » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:07 am
by Rothbrook » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:09 am
Belinka wrote:The Soviet Union also constantly violated human rights. Gulags, forced labor, no freedom of speech.
I understand the whole non-totalitarian idea, but it still won’t work. Unless you brainwash and violate human rights. We are a selfish, war monger in, vile species by nature. Even if the majority of people can band together to become a Communist-Utopia State, there will always be sects that decide to rise up and murder.
There is no way to get people to agree to Communism without any brainwashing.
by Belinka » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:24 am
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