Right Wing Discussion Thread XV: A New Hoppe

[The Man Who Shot Jiminy Cricket]

No, that's not ideal. Because a government is necessary for protection and maintaining social peace.

That's just what fits your current moral arrangement, and by your own admission is completely impractical.

Ideal =/= practical.

Untrue. God designed everything to work well and everything can.

[Salus Maior]

I don't really see the point of holding a political position out of pure idealism though.

Because, without ideals, there are no guidelines for the practical.

Which you completely reject.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Ideal =/= practical.

Untrue. God designed everything to work well and everything can.

Then what about things like cancer?

[United Muscovite Nations]

Because, without ideals, there are no guidelines for the practical.

Which you completely reject.

I reject the practical because people get so caught up in it that they lose sight of "should" be done and instead focus on what "can" be done.

[The Man Who Shot Jiminy Cricket]

What's the ideal form of government?

Amin, you need not answer. Everybody knows what you'll say.

None.

This is completely wrong, God ordained government and always has, He Himself is Lord, angels were created to.administrate and man was given the same duty. The one who objected to this goverment was a certain mischievous entity with an overblown ego.

[The Man Who Shot Jiminy Cricket]

Untrue. God designed everything to work well and everything can.

Then what about things like cancer?

Cancer is most certainly ideal where God wills it.

[United Muscovite Nations]

None.

This is completely wrong, God ordained government and always has, He Himself is Lord, angels were created to.administrate and man was given the same duty. The one who objected to this goverment was a certain mischievous entity with an overblown ego.

God governs, man is to be governed. When God returns in his kingdom, then I will accept that government.

[Duhon]

The sideburns of conquerors.

>tfw the character is apparently Irish
With the English as the administrators, the Irish as the soldiers, and the Scots as whatever is needed, they will conquer all! If only they could stop hating each other.

Makers and sellers of foodstuffs? Property developers? Bagpipe enthusiasts?

[The Man Who Shot Jiminy Cricket]

This is completely wrong, God ordained government and always has, He Himself is Lord, angels were created to.administrate and man was given the same duty. The one who objected to this goverment was a certain mischievous entity with an overblown ego.

God governs, man is to be governed. When God returns in his kingdom, then I will accept that government.

God supports and desires government of men in His Name.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

Then what about things like cancer?

Cancer is most certainly ideal where God wills it.

>cancer
>ideal

Wowah there, dull that edge a bit.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

>tfw the character is apparently Irish
With the English as the administrators, the Irish as the soldiers, and the Scots as whatever is needed, they will conquer all! If only they could stop hating each other.

Makers and sellers of foodstuffs? Property developers? Bagpipe enthusiasts?

Indeed, all things that scots are adequate in.

[Kowani]

Which you completely reject.

I reject the practical because people get so caught up in it that they lose sight of "should" be done and instead focus on what "can" be done.

Yeah, there’s a reason for that.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

I reject the practical because people get so caught up in it that they lose sight of "should" be done and instead focus on what "can" be done.

Yeah, there’s a reason for that.

That being?

[Kowani]

Yeah, there’s a reason for that.

That being?

Focusing exclusively on what can be done in the service of what should be done lessens the risk of it backfiring, horribly or otherwise. Focusing only on what should be done while ignoring what can be done is what gets us the USSR fucking up the Aral Sea.

[Conserative Morality]

More proof that Sherman had the right idea; the Southern aristocracy was never broken.

[Hanafuridake]

More proof that Sherman had the right idea; the Southern aristocracy was never broken.

Unlike in much of the rest of the South, wealthy white families in Sherman’s path often had their land appropriated, seized or destroyed by Union forces. By 1870, affected families had a staggering 40 percent less wealth than similar folks in nearby counties.

I mostly just skimmed, but it seems that you're sour that they used connections in order to repair their major loss of wealth, which is what anyone would've done in a similar situation. They weren't whipping slaves anymore, so I don't see the need to satiate blood lust by fantasizing about “breaking” a class of people.

[Conserative Morality]

I mostly just skimmed, but it seems that you're sour that they used connections in order to repair their major loss of wealth, which is what anyone would've done in a similar situation. They weren't whipping slaves anymore, so I don't see the need to satiate blood lust by fantasizing about “breaking” a class of people.

Then you fail to understand the pervasive and sickening effect that an entrenched aristocracy has on both the culture and the economy of a nation. "They weren't whipping slaves anymore", no, they were just passing laws that imprisoned black people for being jobless, imprisoned them, and put them in labor gangs where they could benefit monetarily from their work without paying them. Totally different.

But that's okay. They did it through 'social capital'. That makes everything alright and acceptable.

[Hanafuridake]

I mostly just skimmed, but it seems that you're sour that they used connections in order to repair their major loss of wealth, which is what anyone would've done in a similar situation. They weren't whipping slaves anymore, so I don't see the need to satiate blood lust by fantasizing about “breaking” a class of people.

Then you fail to understand the pervasive and sickening effect that an entrenched aristocracy has on both the culture and the economy of a nation. "They weren't whipping slaves anymore", no, they were just passing laws that imprisoned black people for being jobless, imprisoned them, and put them in labor gangs where they could benefit monetarily from their work without paying them. Totally different.

But that's okay. They did it through 'social capital'. That makes everything alright and acceptable.

It is kind of weird how you immediately jump from someone disagreeing with a comment about liquidating a class to accusing them of being okay with the segregationist South.

[Conserative Morality]

It is kind of weird how you immediately jump from someone disagreeing with a comment about liquidating a class to accusing them of being okay with the segregationist South.

"I don't know what you would have expected them to do or why you have a problem with this."

"You don't?"

"It's kind of weird that you think that about me!"

:thonk:

[Hanafuridake]

It is kind of weird how you immediately jump from someone disagreeing with a comment about liquidating a class to accusing them of being okay with the segregationist South.

"I don't know what you would have expected them to do or why you have a problem with this."

"You don't?"

"It's kind of weird that you think that about me!"

:thonk:

These white families seem to have drawn upon exceptional social connections, the economists find.

Most notably, they married up. Boustan and her colleagues analyzed sociological indicators such as birth year and name choice to demonstrate that sons of slave owners tended to marry women from families with even more prewar wealth — probably at least in part because of their father-in-law’s network and influence.

Compared with sons from families who owned fewer enslaved people, they were also more likely to make the leap into white-collar jobs, a move that other researchers have shown is often greased by a family’s political and social networks.

I'm not seeing anything here which implies that de facto slavery was how they remade their wealth.

[Conserative Morality]

"I don't know what you would have expected them to do or why you have a problem with this."

"You don't?"

"It's kind of weird that you think that about me!"

:thonk:

These white families seem to have drawn upon exceptional social connections, the economists find.

Most notably, they married up. Boustan and her colleagues analyzed sociological indicators such as birth year and name choice to demonstrate that sons of slave owners tended to marry women from families with even more prewar wealth — probably at least in part because of their father-in-law’s network and influence.

Compared with sons from families who owned fewer enslaved people, they were also more likely to make the leap into white-collar jobs, a move that other researchers have shown is often greased by a family’s political and social networks.

I'm not seeing anything here which implies that de facto slavery was how they remade their wealth.

Then you're missing the point of the whole damn article, including portions you quoted here.

[The Galactic Liberal Democracy]

More proof that Sherman had the right idea; the Southern aristocracy was never broken.

B U R N T H E S O U T H T O T H E G R O U N D

[The Man Who Shot Jiminy Cricket]

This is a perfect illustration of Nietzsche's description of ressentiment. I did not quite buy it when he said it was a major force of the French Revolution but now I see how it could be. I think someone needs to not be so imfluenced by video games.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

More proof that Sherman had the right idea; the Southern aristocracy was never broken.

B U R N T H E S O U T H T O T H E G R O U N D

Please don't

[The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord]

B U R N T H E S O U T H T O T H E G R O U N D

Please don't

How about we compromise, like civilized and sensible people? We can demolish (or "burn" as GLD put it) certain unused areas of the South in accordance with the generally-accepted principle of eminent domain in order to spur economic growth via the development of land for agricultural, commercial, industrial, and residential use?